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What someone should do is find the kills of a weapon and divide it by popularity.
Use a weapon, kill them with it alot, and they will try other weapons to counter you.
They're not over-powered just because everyone uses them!
With 8 v 8 though there is almost always enough time to reload between people making them far too over powered.
QuoteUse a weapon, kill them with it alot, and they will try other weapons to counter you. I do, I almost exclusivly use the Spas. Look at my stats from when I play on the public CTF on U13. I've made myself a rule that I will never use the M79 unless I pick it up from another player. I've been playing like that for months. Problem is one outr of every 1.1 players has the M79 in hand when they die.Quote They're not over-powered just because everyone uses them! I disagree. The only reason everyone uses them is because they have huge advantages over all other weapons from being overpowered. Everyone knows it so they all use them.
Quote from: Traciatim on July 26, 2006, 08:57:40 amI disagree. The only reason everyone uses them is because they have huge advantages over all other weapons from being overpowered. Everyone knows it so they all use them. No, no, no. It may seem that way, but trust me, it's because they actually know how to use them.
I disagree. The only reason everyone uses them is because they have huge advantages over all other weapons from being overpowered. Everyone knows it so they all use them.
I tried the barret on u13 INF yesterday... I was killing everyone with it for a minute or two... then I died and switched weapons. I'm not saying it's overpowered though. But it's certainly not as hard to use as people make out, unless you're above or below someone, then it's a bit harder.Quote from: Twistkill on July 26, 2006, 09:57:22 amQuote from: Traciatim on July 26, 2006, 08:57:40 amI disagree. The only reason everyone uses them is because they have huge advantages over all other weapons from being overpowered. Everyone knows it so they all use them. No, no, no. It may seem that way, but trust me, it's because they actually know how to use them.That, in many cases, is complete balderdash. People often switch to m79 and barret because other people are using them (Because it's EASIER TO KILL). That's why the games end up being one-hit kill fests. That happened in at least 2 servers I played on yesterday. When I went in, a couple of barrets, couple of m79s, a few autos, my spas.... and after about 6 rounds, all barrets. Most of the time I stick to Spas/Steyr, but occasionally I switch to the barret for a bit if I'm the only person not using one. I get tired of my head bouncing around all over the map. One other thing I noticed... everyone says that the barret is hard to use because of bink from autos. The weird thing is, I agree when I'm using the weapon, but when I try to bink barreters (usually with the Steyr), they always manage to still hit me, even after a few hits. Is bink predictable or something?
And yes, it's not *really* hard to use, but it certainly requires more practice than other weapons.
Quote from: Twistkill on July 26, 2006, 12:45:38 pmAnd yes, it's not *really* hard to use, but it certainly requires more practice than other weapons.Not really. Camping is as easy as ever. Being an active Barreter just requires learning to prone before shooting to correct selfbink, which isn't that hard at all to adjust to. The speed, accuracy, and power of the bullet almost guarantees a kill, and it remains pretty much a point-and-click weapon from all ranges. At least the M79 does require speed and arc knowledge to hit mid to long range targets.