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Offline Xagonix

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2008, 08:05:45 pm »
People DO think that M79 is a noob weapon.

Sure it kills in one shot, and maybe it might take less skill than a Barret or a Deagle.

But it sure beats the hell out of any sprayer noob...
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Offline Lumen-Shroom

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 08:08:24 pm »
People DO think that M79 is a noob weapon.

Sure it kills in one shot, and maybe it might take less skill than a Barret or a Deagle.

But it sure beats the hell out of any sprayer noob...

Spraying is a valid tactic for weakening incoming forces in the absense of the Berrett.


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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2008, 08:20:03 pm »
I know how you feel man........... I get kicked every single day. ;_;

Most people are rather sportsmanship and can take a little beating, but occasionally you're gonna meet one of those emotionally unstable 12-year-olds who can't take a little playful bullet in the head.



Just rejoin and apologize for the ownage, and leave the game. Let them have their fun, it's just a game and no one needs to be owned excessively. Love anddd peaceeee !  [pigtail]

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2008, 08:48:16 pm »
I know how you feel man........... I get kicked every single day. ;_;

Most people are rather sportsmanship and can take a little beating, but occasionally you're gonna meet one of those emotionally unstable 12-year-olds who can't take a little playful bullet in the head.



Just rejoin and apologize for the ownage, and leave the game. Let them have their fun, it's just a game and no one needs to be owned excessively. Love anddd peaceeee !  [pigtail]

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2008, 10:01:15 pm »
m79 users need minimal awareness to get a kill:
"someone's shooting me from behind?  let's see....  hmmm... oh shit"  *fires with no skills*  "phew - good thing i have such cat-like reflexes"
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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2008, 11:28:36 pm »
WRONG
A good m79er is someone who knows how to use the gun to maximize kills and not die. If it means they have to get close in order to guarantee a kill, then so be it.

That's an oportunist M79er. You could say that he's good since he gets alot of kills with that weapon, but then you could ask why they are using that weapon in the first place. I'll be against some M79ers in a server with plenty of hiding places like Arena, then change to a very open map like Viet and they log off. Pathetic.

Though when playing on a public beta server yesterday something very rare happend (as well as my Minimi disappearing from my hands into thin air)- I said "nice shot" to an M79er! He hit me with a shot that actually took some decent aiming! So there are some skilled M79ers out there, but they don't really get to show it since the M79 is cheap by its very nature and tactics.
I think there would be two kinds of 'opportunist' killers. The nooby opportunist would be the player you mentioned in your post. He only knows of one or two basic moves: Camping and Rushing ... or Kamikazing and Superman-ing. He practices these same moves over and over - and hasn't figured out how to apply them properly.

For the better players - being an opportunist is almost like a passive skill... They are able to identify the opponent's weapon weakness (m79 has short range, 1 shot), they can position themselves (ie get some height against m79), they can time their speed/run (stop rushing when they see an m79), and also figure out how to use their 'body' to benefit other teammates (face up to the m79 to buy your team some time, or let an ally sneak by).... And they do all this on the spot.


SO if you're playing against someone who ONLY knows how to Kamikaze - then you might be facing a noob. But be warned - a better player might throw you off by kamkazing one time and then maybe blindsiding you from afar the next time.
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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2008, 12:32:07 am »
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Offline SDFilm

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2008, 10:10:52 am »
People DO think that M79 is a noob weapon.

Sure it kills in one shot, and maybe it might take less skill than a Barret or a Deagle.

But it sure beats the hell out of any sprayer noob...

The Barret used to be as cheap as the M79, but has became more respectable through nerfs over past versions. The Deagle, being a semi-auto, has quite a learning curve to handle and is thus not a 'cheap weapon'. Spraying itself isn't noobish, it's when players can only spray when they deserve to be called a noob; although some people think that simply firing an auto counts as spraying, but they're also the same people who call you a hacker because you beat them. Plus what Lumen-Shroom said.

While there are some real skilled M79 players out there, the M79 is still an 'entery gun' for noobies; it isn't exactly overpowerd, but it's still a damn cheap weapon. Like I did in my early days of Soldat (as well as being a total camper with the 1.2.1 Barret)- use the M79 and then move on to somthing more challenging.
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Offline Talix

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2008, 03:15:32 pm »
Well, looking at the stats of the gun on wikipedia:
Cartridge    40 mm grenade
Action    break open
Rate of fire    6 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity    76 m/s (247 fps)
Effective range    350 m (383 yd)
Maximum range    400 m (437 yd)
Feed system    breech-loaded
Sights    Blade and leaf type

6 shots a minute.

I thought that the m79 shoots a bit more than that, but anyways, moving along.

Why not an m79 2.0?

It shoots just like the other one, but, it holds two bullets.
Not very in-terms of matching the realistic one, but hear me out.

Just like the ruger, it takes multiple shots to destroy an enemy, but it's still very powerful, and can kill someone with lower hp very easily - but you have to aim precisely with this, or you (4?) bullets are done for, and you have to reload.

Sometimes a grenade would be hard to kill some with, maybe you need two-possibly three nades.

So, if the M79 2.0 has an ammo bump, and a damage nerf, people would be a bit more happier?

Offline Ziem

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2008, 03:46:19 pm »
No.
It should stay as it is in terms of damage and ammo.

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2008, 08:17:03 pm »
The problem with it staying the same is you will still have people complaining.. Personally i find a kill with m79 to be a easy and unsatisfying kill. Now if it were to be nerfed then the "m79 noobs" will just have to deal with it and actually use it with skill with the nerfed m79. then they can actually claim that the m79 has some skill to it. The m79 we have now can be used with skill if you learn the skill. m79 nades do ricochet. i use many ricochet shots with m79. But as for kicking a player for using it i personally feel that it is wrong.   

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2008, 08:31:44 pm »
ahahah remembers me of the gay #soldat.realistic -gather
they eabled miigu ad such ad ow ive got abed for usig it
ad that feckurs aret able to uba me i there chael :D
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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2008, 08:57:27 pm »
ahahah remembers me of the gay #soldat.realistic -gather
they eabled miigu ad such ad ow ive got abed for usig it
ad that feckurs aret able to uba me i there chael :D
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Offline rumpel

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2008, 09:12:57 pm »
ya my oe key broke :p
they baed me for usig  [Minigun] but its eabled there
ad they cat deba me cuz they aret able to
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Offline dark1

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2008, 09:17:02 pm »
O_O???? english? srry thats bad but.. well how is any to understand that?

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2008, 09:17:44 pm »
ma key betwee b ad m is fecked so stfu ad gtfo >:O

look, this:

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Offline Lone-Wolf

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2008, 12:07:50 am »
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY !?

Without the N... you type like a Nigger !!??? YOU RACIST SCUM.


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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2008, 12:32:47 am »
Lone, that's no way to respond to someone that cant use a certain key.

Rumpel: There is an on-screen keyboard you can use for that sort of stuff. I had an old laptop and about 5 of the keys were gone on it and didn't work so I used that.

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2008, 12:27:08 pm »
are you guys retarded

i could tell he couldn't use N by his first post

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Re: M 79 whiner noobs?
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2008, 03:38:14 am »
I keep hearing that all the time(But I dont use m79 much)
I mean, m79 is a regular weapon like all the others, so why
only this? Why not ak47? Because m79 is killing in 1 hit?
I can tell you that not alot people know how to use m79
anyway.
You need good timing for hiting from far away, which is hard
(not when you get used to it)
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