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Offline MyiEye

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Scripting...
« on: August 16, 2008, 08:11:06 pm »
So I wanna learn some scripting/programming/computer language whatever you call it, I hope those don't all mean different things, but I'm wondering where a good place to start would be, would C++ be good? Is it so old-school that no one uses anymore? Although that doesn't really matter. So is there a better starting spot? Yeah so...:)
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 09:26:43 pm »
I learned from a teacher. I think that is the best starting place. I tried to learn from books, but I just couldn't.
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 09:52:14 pm »
they say C++ can be really complicated, so you start with an easy one to get the basics quicker
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 11:32:11 pm »
A recent, relevant discussion on the matter
So...pretty much I don't think I'll start with C++ seeing as this'll be my first. So do you think php is a good starting point? or Pascal? or html? or maybe CSS? (I have no idea what most of those are... heh, but that don't matter)
they say C++ can be really complicated, so you start with an easy one to get the basics quicker
Like what?
imo, i learned pascal as my first real programing language (well, scripting language for soldat server) (excluding things like TI's calculator language :P) and that came in handy when starting to work w/ php; php then came in handy when I started working with C++
Does this look like a good idea?
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 11:51:15 pm »
they say C++ can be really complicated, so you start with an easy one to get the basics quicker
Like what?
Visual basic, python, just off the top of my head. im sure theres people around here who can shed more light on this for you.

When you first start, all you can do is momentarily make a pretty shitty calculator out of your computer, but if you stick with it you can do all those cool things you're dreaming of.
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 12:02:14 am »
they say C++ can be really complicated, so you start with an easy one to get the basics quicker
Like what?
Visual basic, python, just off the top of my head. im sure theres people around here who can shed more light on this for you.

When you first start, all you can do is momentarily make a pretty pooty calculator out of your computer, but if you stick with it you can do all those cool things you're dreaming of.
k, atm I'm considering this very carefully
Don't learn Visual Basic. It's a dead obsolete language that's almost never used ever. Only knowing php won't help you that much since it can only work with dynamic websites and doesn't encourage good programming habits. I agree with what FLAB and Mar said.

Taking a glance at pascal before you look at python or c++ would probably be helpful. It's extremely simple and was pretty much created for the purpose of teaching good programming habits. Looking at some of Soldat's Server Scripts would be a great place to get a feel for what pascal is like. Pascal isn't very useful in the real world, however. While learning it will teach you useful things, it's barely used at all right now.
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 12:33:25 am »
Hahah atm i'm im learning how to make soldat scripts using "pascal" although since i just started im finding it a bit confusing but it looks fair straight forward

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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2008, 05:40:15 am »
Ruby if you want an easy useless language
Pascal if you want to be credit to soldat
none if you are trying to be one of the cool guys just by scripting
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2008, 08:41:06 am »
Visual Basic is probably the easiest thing to learn out there. It's also kinda cool, like every other generic highschool project, I made pong:

http://files.filefront.com/Pongzip/;10667375;/fileinfo.html

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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2008, 09:36:44 am »
If you want to get really simplistic, go with batch.
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2008, 04:55:07 pm »
So yeah I'm looking for something fairly simplistic, but I'm aiming for C++ I guess. I just want to learn a language or two that will help me get to/learn C++. What would the best choices be for doing this?
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2008, 05:24:31 pm »
Seems quite strange to want to know a programming language just for the hell of it. What do you hope to achieve by it, a future job? Impressing the girls?

Anyhoo... if your ultimate goal is to learn C++ and want to start easy then I'd definitely recommend Java. Its syntax is very similar and the language itself enforces good and type-safe programming habbits, as well as teaching about object orientation.

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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2008, 05:41:27 pm »
Impressing the girls?
We all know how that turned out for jrgp
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2008, 05:57:27 pm »
Impressing the girls?
We all know how that turned out for jrgp
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Well, from personal experience, Latina chicks usually are the most horny out of them all. I had this girl on my bus who begged me every day to let me come over to her house so she could feck me. She was always making lip motions on the bus, the kind like she was pretending to blow me.

Luckily, I had enough self control and maturity to take one look and label her a skank who's not worthy of my male prowess. I just ignored her.

But if all you want is sex, go with one of them. They're hot as hell and always wanting more.
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2008, 06:13:51 pm »
Impressing the girls?
We all know how that turned out for jrgp
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Well, from personal experience, Latina chicks usually are the most horny out of them all. I had this girl on my bus who begged me every day to let me come over to her house so she could feck me. She was always making lip motions on the bus, the kind like she was pretending to blow me.

Luckily, I had enough self control and maturity to take one look and label her a skank who's not worthy of my male prowess. I just ignored her.

But if all you want is sex, go with one of them. They're hot as hell and always wanting more.
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Date Posted: August 17, 2008, 07:13:02 pm
Seems quite strange to want to know a programming language just for the hell of it. What do you hope to achieve by it, a future job? Impressing the girls?

Anyhoo... if your ultimate goal is to learn C++ and want to start easy then I'd definitely recommend Java. Its syntax is very similar and the language itself enforces good and type-safe programming habbits, as well as teaching about object orientation.
Is java really that good for a first? I had the first impression that it was pretty complex and tricky?
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2008, 07:05:54 pm »
Java is a very useful language. It will land you a job pretty quickly and as someone else said, C++ is the ultimate goal and java has it's similarities. Learn it.

CSS and HTML are not programming languages. They are markup languages. Instead of dealing with logical statements and decisions, they are for organization and presentation of data / media.

Ruby is pretty worthless compared to python. They are both interpreted scripting languages, but python is far superior. That is because ruby is extremely slow and not portable or scalable. Python is.

I suggest you go with Java. There are billions of tutorials everywhere.

Also, if you have questions, get in irc on quakenet and join #soldat.devs. People are there who can help you and answer questions.

Impressing the girls?
We all know how that turned out for jrgp
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2008, 05:37:18 pm »
Java is a very useful language. It will land you a job pretty quickly and as someone else said, C++ is the ultimate goal and java has it's similarities. Learn it.

CSS and HTML are not programming languages. They are markup languages. Instead of dealing with logical statements and decisions, they are for organization and presentation of data / media.

Ruby is pretty worthless compared to python. They are both interpreted scripting languages, but python is far superior. That is because ruby is extremely slow and not portable or scalable. Python is.

I suggest you go with Java. There are billions of tutorials everywhere.

Also, if you have questions, get in irc on quakenet and join #soldat.devs. People are there who can help you and answer questions.

Sounds pretty good so JAVA it'll probably be. Now I suppose a book would be the obvious source for teaching myself. Should a make sure I get a book that was written after year X? Was there a year when JAVA was dramaticly changed? I heard that this occured for C++ around 1999. Anyway if this is true than approximately what would X be? And does anyone have some good suggestions for books

I've found this: Getting Started : Java Glossary, which seems pretty promising. Anyways, if you don't mind....what do you think


Date Posted: August 17, 2008, 09:03:45 pm
Is EJB Java?
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2008, 05:49:41 pm »
Java is a very useful language. It will land you a job pretty quickly and as someone else said, C++ is the ultimate goal and java has it's similarities. Learn it.

CSS and HTML are not programming languages. They are markup languages. Instead of dealing with logical statements and decisions, they are for organization and presentation of data / media.

Ruby is pretty worthless compared to python. They are both interpreted scripting languages, but python is far superior. That is because ruby is extremely slow and not portable or scalable. Python is.

I suggest you go with Java. There are billions of tutorials everywhere.

Also, if you have questions, get in irc on quakenet and join #soldat.devs. People are there who can help you and answer questions.

Sounds pretty good so JAVA it'll probably be. Now I suppose a book would be the obvious source for teaching myself. Should a make sure I get a book that was written after year X? Was there a year when JAVA was dramaticly changed? I heard that this occured for C++ around 1999. Anyway if this is true than approximately what would X be? And does anyone have some good suggestions for books

I've found this: Getting Started : Java Glossary, which seems pretty promising. Anyways, if you don't mind....what do you think


Date Posted: August 17, 2008, 09:03:45 pm
Is EJB Java?
Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EJB (no, it's not Java. It's something that uses Java.)
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Re: Scripting...
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2008, 05:56:12 pm »
ah...thanks. Does it matter at all if I get a book on java 5 instead of 6?
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