Fee for BattlEye services

[BombSki]

I know it would, but in the end, the public server without BE will be filled with hackers, then the server would go empty, forcing the servermaster to implement BE or to stop hosting the server. So in the end, we would lose a lot of public servers

[The Geologist]

For starters, how much are you going to charge?

Second, how many costs are associated with keeping BE running/updated as it is now?

Seems rather silly to start charging for it now, even if it is just server side.  And without you divulging any of the above info, it's also hard for people to have any idea how much of a change is supposed to caused by this.

One dollar per server?  Ten dollars? 

Why not just ask for donations?  Seems like a better route to go. 

Keep BE free for Soldat and work the bugs out, then try to spread it on the professional level (for other games?), whatever that is.  But mentioning that BE will be made third party kinda seems more like a threat than anything else.  If you want to make a business out of this, you'll have to refine your product and get other sources interested in purchasing in a pay-for-use situation from the get go.  This doesn't seem like the best way to do that.

On a side note, how much money do you expect to earn for "making a living" from this?

[Chariot]

Why not just ask for donations?  Seems like a better route to go.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday. If this community is truly serious about stopping hackers, I'm sure several people among us would be more than willing to donate money to help you improve BE and prevent you from charging server owners for its use.

[excruciator]

I know it would, but in the end, the public server without BE will be filled with hackers, then the server would go empty, forcing the servermaster to implement BE or to stop hosting the server. So in the end, we would lose a lot of public servers

It is highly unlikely for soldat to have no public servers.

EDIT:
Public servers hosted by big hosts such as u13 and leo

[Rellik]

so who is paying, Me? Selfkill? or MM?

[mxyzptlk]

The service should have a tier system, I believe. The current version should be available to server owner without guarantees or updates for free, but any updates should require a MINIMAL fee (and I mean minimal, around 1-5 dollars a month). This would allow server owners to be able to keep their server relatively hacker-free, but wouldn't protect them against any newer threats. After that, release older versions (about 5 versions prior to the current premium package) for free. This way you'd get people to pay, but it wouldn't leave the entire public community in the cold.

[BombSki]

MINIMAL fee (and I mean minimal, around 1-5 dollars a month).

certainly nobody is gonna buy BE for $5/month when a server is $1 / slot..

[Farah]

one very important question:
do you actually support ron paul or are you being ironic

[Avis]

Suddenly monthly fees? (Even if it is only for server owners)
Bullsh*t.

[homerofgods]

one very important question:
do you actually support Ron Paul or are you being ironic

I agree with Farah.
also, I don't get kicked by BE, maybe if we knew what kicks innocent people we might work us around that problem? Do we know?

and one more thing! we don't want a lot of servers without BE do we?? so why don't you just put up the prize for a server slot?

[mxyzptlk]

MINIMAL fee (and I mean minimal, around 1-5 dollars a month).

certainly nobody is gonna buy BE for $5/month when a server is $1 / slot..

And yet you'd buy a freeware game for $13?
$1-5 isn't very much at all, and it supports the anti-hack and provides you with security in your server. I find it reasonable, given what I put in my previous post.

[$able]

For starters, how much are you going to charge?

Second, how many costs are associated with keeping BE running/updated as it is now?

Seems rather silly to start charging for it now, even if it is just server side.�  And without you divulging any of the above info, it's also hard for people to have any idea how much of a change is supposed to caused by this.

One dollar per server?�  Ten dollars?� 

Why not just ask for donations?�  Seems like a better route to go.� 

Keep BE free for Soldat and work the bugs out, then try to spread it on the professional level (for other games?), whatever that is.�  But mentioning that BE will be made third party kinda seems more like a threat than anything else.�  If you want to make a business out of this, you'll have to refine your product and get other sources interested in purchasing in a pay-for-use situation from the get go.�  This doesn't seem like the best way to do that.

On a side note, how much money do you expect to earn for "making a living" from this?

1.) Around 2 euros.
2.) Donations are like that: Some nice people will pay a few bucks, but after a short while it will go down to zero.
3.) Tell me about the bugs, instead of assuming they are in there - I am serious!
4.) Talking without knowing sh*t (sorry) and at least checking BE's website. Soldat is the only free game I still support. I am being a bit rude as some of you are: I don't need Soldat to start a business.

I am repeating it one last time: I am starting a business to make a living from it (not just for fun and to rip you off, like most of the people here think!), therefore I won't support free games anymore - this is natural AS HELL!
That's why I am suggesting you to keep up the support for a small fee. If it's not wanted, then fine, BE is removed and everyone will be happy. Stop saying I have to go on doing this. I did it so far because I am a nice guy, but it's my right to stop any day!
I guarantee you, you won't find such a nice guy providing you with such a quality system ever again - and I am serious about every single word I say!

I have learnt one thing: You better not start anything good for free, because all that you ever get from the majority is a nice "it sucks" (in general, I am not even talking about this thread).

one very important question:
do you actually support ron paul or are you being ironic

Yes, I do. Obviously he's one of the only ones not blatantly lying to people. Go vote for Obama/McCain, like it will make any real difference...


Nuff said.

[BombSki]

i agree with you, people here talk poo.
is that 2 euros per server or per person? will there be a difference for private servers?
what will the method of payment options be?

i still really think that a license should be bought for entire soldat, and not for each server.

[jrgp]

Okay, okay, okay. I see your point in doing this, sable. Making money off something like this is not a horrible idea, especially since you need cash to survive. I admit I didn't see this coming, but now that I see it I'm not surprised at all.

I don't think anyone's asked this yet: How much for a bunch of servers at once? Like... lets say I host 4 servers out of my house on my high speed connection, could I get a discount for hosting more than one servers? Would this be a one time payment or monthly? Will I get a product code for each server that I would need to "activate"?

You seem to not be providing useful details..

[Laser Guy]

Hmm, just one question. What method did you use tihw STALKER and ArmA? Did they just buy the license for whole game? Or are they paying for every server/month?

[Spyder]

Can't Soldat just buy BE instead of having server admins paying a monthly fee? or just make our own anti-cheat system instead of relying on BE.

$able, how much do you see yourself earning from doing this?

PS. OBAMA '08

[Farah]

Yes, I do. Obviously he's one of the only ones not blatantly lying to people. Go vote for Obama/McCain, like it will make any real difference...


Nuff said.

ahahahahahahhaha i don't want to turn this into a thread about politics but wow

[FliesLikeABrick]

Farah, don't push it or you'll find yourself banned from posting in the News forum

[Sauron]

Hackers can start smiling because 2/3 of servers will be without secure.I think if it will became from this topic to reality with BE will be only some league servers or some professional public servers like eC, Leo`s etc.It will be renaissance of hacking in Soldat.

[rudolph928]

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