Fee for BattlEye services

[-Major-]

well I doubt Sable will be able to put up correct terms of use. because this guy is really... you can't go cocky and rude if you don't do an amazing job. if you'd be the worlds best anti-hack programmer, you could be rude, but with your skill, you can't.

and wow, 2 euro... that's like 4 times the price I thought you would come up with (I thought 1 dollar).

and you're ridiculous, make a living on soldat? you better find another game. but wait... you won't because you got no good reputation. you'll be stuck at serving free games for quite some time, and with this attitude... you will never serve a real game.

[Slazenger]

well I doubt Sable will be able to put up correct terms of use. because this guy is really... you can't go cocky and rude if you don't do an amazing job. if you'd be the worlds best anti-hack programmer, you could be rude, but with your skill, you can't.

and wow, 2 euro... that's like 4 times the price I thought you would come up with (I thought 1 dollar).

and you're ridiculous, make a living on soldat? you better find another game. but wait... you won't because you got no good reputation. you'll be stuck at serving free games for quite some time, and with this attitude... you will never serve a real game.

www.battleye.com
You are saying that STALKER  (Sold 2 million copies) aren't one of the best games? He got a great reputation. He also mentioned he'd could aswell just remove BE from soldat, but he did this to do soldat a favor, i'd say, screw soldat, you're on your own, no anti-cheat engine from me!

[-Major-]

well I doubt Sable will be able to put up correct terms of use. because this guy is really... you can't go cocky and rude if you don't do an amazing job. if you'd be the worlds best anti-hack programmer, you could be rude, but with your skill, you can't.

and wow, 2 euro... that's like 4 times the price I thought you would come up with (I thought 1 dollar).

and you're ridiculous, make a living on soldat? you better find another game. but wait... you won't because you got no good reputation. you'll be stuck at serving free games for quite some time, and with this attitude... you will never serve a real game.

www.battleye.com
You are saying that STALKER  (Sold 2 million copies) aren't one of the best games? He got a great reputation. He also mentioned he'd could aswell just remove BE from soldat, but he did this to do soldat a favor, i'd say, screw soldat, you're on your own, no anti-cheat engine from me!

isn't stalker a SP game? anyway, he haven't done it yet. they'll probably just get mad at him for doing a shitty job. or vice versa, but if it's like soldats BE.... they will get mad.

[The Geologist]

Oh well.  Good luck tryin' to make a living with this, hope it works out for ya.

[Frenchie]

$able you have done a good job with Battleye.

Just neglect all the comments saying that your cocky, rude, greedy, <insert other insult> ... Because frankly you haven't been, thought I can't say the say about the Soldat community itself.

I do understand where you're coming from with the payment talks, as it is the norm to get paid for something you do. Even though at the beginning you provided it free, personal / real life issues might have swayed this decision (not my business) and you are free to do as you wish.

Alot of the people have posted comments without any knowledge surrounding this subject. A little bit of searching would have disproven those people claiming that Soldat is / will be the only game battleye will be implemented in. A quick search on the battleye site would have shown them that it already supports ArmA: Armed Assault / Combat Operations and 2 S.T.A.L.K.E.R.  games. (commercial games).

Also the game WarSow (opensource/ free game) was supported but no longer is as $able no longer had the time to implement it. This just shows to those that are abusing and insulting $able (I'm guessing in an attempt to persuade him to keep BE free) that he will and already has removed support for other games and that this could quite easily happen to Soldat.


These are some of my thoughts on the matter:
-I think it was correct of you, $able, to announce to the community your intentions with BattlEye, but as you can clearly see now, not much constructive input will come from it.
The best way to go about it now, will be to hold a discussion with those members of the community which are vital to the development and running of Soldat and it's services. (A few: MM, FLAB, Enesce, Chris) From this you can discuss the viability and possibilites of running such a service, and the best way to implement it.

[-Major-]

cool, I hated bf and bf2, also those free games are probably pretty crappy... andsoldat is a shitty game. and wtf? STALKER got a new game?

anyhow, you can clearly see sables tries to act mature and like a business person. but when people says his product sucks, he just got to be rude back. maybe your program isn't flawless, ever thought of that?

and some of the hack creators even commented on this :/, they aswell said BE is crappy.

[HH]

Major did you even read the thread? The hacker bullet completely endorsed BE and said what a good program it was.

This thread has brought the soldat community to a new level of idiocy. Sable has coded an anti-cheat system for soldat out of pure goodwill, given it away for free, and updated it for free. Now instead of a thank you for this, all  he gets is bitching and moaning, because someone have come to believe that it is a requirement they deserve, not an added extra which can be taken away at any time.

I've heard server admins bitch about what a thankless job that they have, and how they give up so much of their time to keep servers free of hacks, but for some reason they're the first to whine loudly about this.  To be honest, without battleye soldat is going to go down the shitter because soldat has no useful kick function, and then it will be the server admins again whining loudest for a new anti-hack system.

It's the idiots here who are complaining the loudest, and anyone with any understanding of BE works knows thats it's a good program that has been coded well. No anti-cheat system is perfect, and your unrealistic expectations are going to be what brings this community down.

You guys don't know how good you've got it. HH out.

[SpiltCoffee]

2 pounds per server? Yuk, that's $3.50 AUD... Surely you can halve that, right $able?

Oh well, if that's what it takes to protect my servers, I guess I'll pay up when the time comes.

[BmC Soldat]

I refuse to pay for an anti cheat when -Removed- can bloody bypass it (thanks original, I forgot about this).

And you said something about how no-one reports the issues they have with BE? -Removed- is always reporting the problems with realistic hacks, but nothing has ever been one. This is because of 1 of 2 things:

1. You've tried, but cannot physically do it (again, if this is true, I'd get back to the drawing board if I was you)
2. You actually don't give a poo unless there is something in it for you.

Give us a reason to trust you with our money, and maybe you'll get it. But until then, I think adding a password to a server will do a better job at keeping hackers out rather than paying nearly 4 bucks a month for your program.

Have fun with your other games.

[miketh2005]

Hackers can start smiling because 2/3 of servers will be without secure.I think if it will became from this topic to reality with BE will be only some league servers or some professional public servers like eC, Leo`s etc.It will be renaissance of hacking in Soldat.

I hate it how people ALWAYS leave out the !Elite servers

Anyway, I don't understand why someone just doesn't hack the hacker's website, then there would be no hackers!!!!!! NO DUH! THERES ONLY 2 PLACES TO FIND SECURE HACKS, of course, im not saying them, against the rules, but if you just hack the main site, then there would be no place to get hacks, it would solve the problem at least untill they get it all back together...

[PQ]

RIP soldat

[miketh2005]

I've heard server admins female dog about what a thankless job that they have, and how they give up so much of their time to keep servers free of hacks, but for some reason they're the first to whine loudly about this. To be honest, without battleye soldat is going to go down the pooter because soldat has no useful kick function, and then it will be the server admins again whining loudest for a new anti-hack system.

Female dog??? you don't make sense.

2 EURO = 2.89 USD

Date Posted: September 22, 2008, 02:04:52 am

RIP soldat

lol? Soldat will never die just because there's a few hackers in the server, if the server owner gets good server admins that frequent the server often to ban hackers, there's no problem, people will still play, and even if there is a hacker in the server (there's never so much that it's unbearable) people can vote kick him.

[Mittsu]

I understand he wants to make business out of this, but this is just not fine if he will suddenly disable it. He should at least give some time to Soldat coders to create a new anti-cheat system.

[Meteorisch]

Like BE works now? ... It gives only ; Player has been kicked by some stupid error.

Or Player has been detected of cheating. kicked/banned. Then they say it's a bug.

Oh okay. Lets play on..

That is how it always goes. This anti-cheat program fails. And paying for such workless program is even more stupid.

[Sauron]

Here is a lot of people from hacking community who say that BE is totally useless and unworkable.So ignore them.They know that their dream Soldat without anti-cheat is very near.It will be good to conctretize how payment will be work.I don`t support this payment anyway, because number of BE secured servers will be drasticaly eliminated.

[Ziem]

50% of public servers will die.. I actually don't care about it but eh, you've added this anticheat for free and you're suddenly expecting people to pay you every month.

If you expect me (and others) to pay you, I expect :
- frequent updates
- fixing bugs

[ElephantEater]

Here is a lot of people from hacking community who say that BE is totally useless and unworkable.So ignore them.They know that their dream Soldat without anti-cheat is very near.It will be good to conctretize how payment will be work.I don`t support this payment anyway, because number of BE secured servers will be drasticaly eliminated.

Actually, quite the contrary. All the smart people from the hacking community are talking about how relatively good of a job $able did with BE, and THAT'S why some of them are rather happy/sad to see it become a paid thingy. It's the naive idiots here that flame $able.

[MY_FIREMAN_IS_HUGE]

People always leave out the !Elite servers because it's full of idiots ( Mostly, not always )
Also female dog is the censor for female dog...( If you don't even know what the word  female dog means then that's just...sad :O )

We can just pass the our own servers and change the pass everyday then just tell it to our friends on msn / aim / etc so hackers won't get in D:

[-Major-]

btw, I think -Removed- and -Removed- was sable , as they registrated like 10 seconds before they posted. and always after somebody have flamed Sable.

and btw, why the feck would you get angry because we say your anti cheat sucks and doesn't want it. if we don't want to pay for it, then we wont have it... you won't lose anything on adding this but the soldat hosters will lose on it.

[miketh2005]

i know for a fact that -Removed- isn't $able, he was a hacker when i used to be in AN...

and which !Elite servers are you talking about, what do you expect we do about that??? Noobs will always be noobs, and I have no idea why someone would buy a private server just to invite there friends to play, unless of course you have like 100 friends... and why would you need to change the pass everyday? I never knew hackers can get passes, i'm thinking it's impossible but not sure, so don't flame me if you know they can. And I know that femal dog is a censor, I was just making a joke and you fell for it, lol.