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Offline bloodzcape

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NEED HELP!!
« on: September 22, 2008, 05:53:55 am »
heyy guys ive started using mp5..ive tried everyhting from spraying to burstfire..can any1 reccomend any good ways of using it?

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2008, 06:03:22 am »
This is not exactly where you should post this. Whatever, it'll be moved to the right place anyway.

To me, I love the mp5 to death(though not too skilled). I usually take a LAW with me to shoot anything too far away for my mp5.

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2008, 06:36:43 am »
If your not very good at using a weapon try using different ones until you find the one for you. Good luck! :)

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2008, 07:26:38 am »
Make sure you know your ranges and arcs. Either that or you just suck at maneuvering the enemies. You should be flexible/acrobatic with your guy to dodge bullets to use mp5 since it has a really short range.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2008, 10:47:33 am »
spray, only way to go.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2008, 11:05:06 am »
spray, only way to go.
It doesn't really work with mp5's short range and clip :E

I'm tired of all those people asking for 'tips' 'advices' and other stuff like that.
Would reading all those tips make you any better?

My first and last advice is
PRACTICE
applies to any weapon/situation/whatever.

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2008, 11:29:00 am »
Works for me. I don't burst it. Its accurate enough.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2008, 03:17:48 pm »
My main strategy with the MP5 is rush them spraying madly, get close up and kill them. Usually works. Its quick reload really helps the spray. Plus if that doesn't work ya just toss the knife at them. But that's only for Inf base raids. I don't use it in CTF.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2008, 02:58:45 am »
oh okk , thnx alot guys

Date Posted: September 22, 2008, 06:53:41 pm
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2008, 05:05:15 am »
When using MP5, I'd say get in as close as possible to the target to let loose ;)

If you're at much of a range, don't be afraid to prone. 

I've used MP5 since I started playing and I suck.  So don't be surprised if this advice turns out a load of bs.

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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2008, 05:50:04 am »
rofl hahah :D hmm ive goten a bit beter ive took in every1s advicee and stuf but i can stil do with more advice i tend to nade now while im mp5ingg tht realy helped me out..but i stil dont get what do arcs and curves of shooting mean

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2008, 05:54:03 am »
but i stil dont get what do arcs and curves of shooting mean
Well when you shoot auto, the bullets don't just fly straight, they curve down. that's what they mean by 'arc' and 'curves'

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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2008, 06:42:22 am »
Well when you shoot auto, the bullets don't just fly straight, they curve down. that's what they mean by 'arc' and 'curves'

That's it.

Make use the curve for terrain advantage. For example, on a hill. An enemy with a Barrett can shoot you directly from under or on top of the hill without jumping. But if he's a M79er or someone with lower bullet speed, there's the bullet curve he can make use of to kill you without moving too much and possibly too predictably.

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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2008, 08:26:20 am »
aww ok it sorta makes sence..so i take it when im using curves i have to be far away from enemy so in tht case do i burst or spray

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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2008, 06:24:38 pm »
On the contrary, you want to be close to the enemies when you arc (although, you cannot control your curves - it depends on the constant bullet speed of the gun you are using).  Why everyone said to get close with MP5 is partly due to its curve.  It's a pain to wield if the enemies are further away - try having some 1v1s and you'll see.  Your curve brings the bullet down before it can even reach the enemy, hence you must rush in. 

Although bursting does make the gun more accurate, just hold it on - it's accurate enough, in fact, I think STM1993 once posted that MP5 was more accurate than the aug.

Always combo the MP5 with a nade.  Fire your first few bullets then smack a nade into them.  Oh yeah, nade has its own curve, which is pretty big, so get close before you nade.  Another reason to get into their face. 

As said above, don't be afraid to prone - make sure you're in the air, or you're food.  However, when doing this, look out for sneakies who drop nades on the ground below you causing you to fall to your doom.  If that happens, unprone and quickly jet outta there, but keep up your fire.  If you don't realise, proning, even in the air, makes your bullets fly much straighter.
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2008, 12:13:43 am »
Although bursting does make the gun more accurate, just hold it on - it's accurate enough, in fact, I think STM1993 once posted that MP5 was more accurate than the aug.

Yep I said that. And accuracy =/= bullet speed. Accuracy = how consistent the bullet curve is, NOT how close to the cursor the bullet is.

It is actually very debatable as to which auto is the most accurate. There are many other factors to consider, but actually it comes down to one main factor other than the weapon stats: How easy is it to aim that weapon?



I said the MP5 was most accurate because it has no movementacc (1), it has very low self-bink so if it fired full-auto its bullets would still be quite closely aligned to the original bullet path. With low self-bink, it also means that the bink recovery rate is very high. It's also easy to control, plus if it is realistic, it has very low recoil too. MP5 may have a bullet curve similar to DEs, but it has fast firing rate to help the user adjust the aim.

Steyr Aug is often debated as most accurate. It's mainly thanks to the animation glitch which makes the Aug's 2nd bullet onwards angled slightly upwards if continued to be fired at fireinterval 7, which is the fastest possible firing rate of the Aug. As a result of this, it makes the gun more controllable ; anyone who truly uses an Aug makes use of this glitch, and this glitch actually makes its already high self-bink not enough to control its accuracy. Though if fired full-auto, the Aug would lose accuracy, and must therefore be fired in short bursts. Movementacc 2 doesn't really affect the Aug much.

AK can be said to be accurate since it has slow firing rate to make every shot count, and it is fired via tapping so self-bink doesn't affect it. This makes the AK easy to aim. Also, its bullet curve isn't that hard to learn.

Minimi wouldn't be so accurate (most people would agree) due to its movementacc 4. Other than that, the Minimi is easily the most accurate auto, since it has low self-bink and it is easy to aim it. And its firing rate is just enough for tapping to still remain effective. The movementacc is the only thing that really hinders the Minimi.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2008, 01:13:59 am »
In terms of accuracy, I'd definitely say AK 74 was most accurate because it has the least curve (bullets go closest to where you aim it) and because tapping kills self bink.  So because MP5 is theoretically very accurate, there is not a need to burst...
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2008, 02:34:16 am »
aww ok it sorta makes sence..so i take it when im using curves i have to be far away from enemy so in tht case do i burst or spray

Bursting is good for accuracy, it works well with the Steyr and probably MP5 too.  I haven't really bothered with that stuff much (I'm just a run & gun guy :-\ )  so I dont know too much about it

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