I dislike you. Severely.

[Lord Frunkamunch]

TONIGHT, WE BAN, THE TROLLERS!!! (I dunno if I'm being a complete isiot by posting this )

But really, finally I see a bit of an improvement

Look, if you think posting something will make you look like an idiot, just don't post it. Please. You'd still be lurking, but we'd still have our faith in humanity.

I'm for jrgp as a moderator of some sort. He's a nice fellow and if anyone is to become one it's him :7

Oh Christ no. He's "nice", but he can't comprehend sarcasm, and leaps to the defense of those he thinks might have the same problem. We'd have half the more cynical members banned in a matter of  days.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

I wouldn't worry about voting for mods; the head guys here know who they like and will probably pick people on their own.

And I fully agree that the idiocy here needs to end.  The Lounge is for posting legitimate topics that don't directly relate to Soldat; it's not a place for people to say "I'm bored and have no life, so I'm going to start a forum game that makes no sense and has no point."  Sure, probably at least 95% of the people here are teenagers, but that doesn't mean that this forum needs to be an outlet for the stupidity bouncing around in peoples' heads.

However, I'm pretty much convinced that the mods and admins have stopped caring.  There's just no excuse for the people that Kazuki mentioned (and others like them, of course) to still be around if the mods were doing anything close to their jobs.  FLAB, Vjichti, n00bface, Jaybee, and anyone else modding the Lounge, please, if you're not going to do anything, then get some new moderators who will.  Maybe you're content with this garbage continuing, but there are a lot of us who aren't.

[Kazuki]

Finally, wheels are turning. Been waiting for this. Also, are we discussing loungemods only, or a full forum nazi renovation?

For the time being, I'm releasing the rage on the Lounge, but that's it. If I can create a domino effect in that I get people in the correct mindset for a staff renewal, all the better. But that's really beyond my power. It's apparent, however, that a significant amount of members see the need for such an event to occur, so I don't think it's outrageous for FLAB / Chak / NSC to consider hiring a new set of moderators.

This is just a suggestion, while we're on this topic.

Have a public vote for moderator nominations and see who are the top 5 (maybe 10) or so. Then have the current staff duke it out for the replacements. The unfortunate thing is that with the way things are now, we'll see too much spam in the thread if it's in The Lounge. If anyone else has some suggestions, you can throw them out there, although it's obviously not my decision.

I think that, yes, there should be a vote of some sort to determine the possible candidates for moderators. However, we need a method of selection that is restricted to members who take it seriously (haha, perhaps the voting threads can be moderated strictly) and simultaneously picks an appropriate moderator for each subforum.

I'm thinking we create a nomination thread in each subforum and have those who frequent their respective subforum nominate members for a moderator position in that specific subforum. These threads would have to be kept under close surveillance so as to prevent "idiots" from skewing the results. Keep in mind, though, that this is an idea which just now popped into my head. It probably needs a lot of revision and implementation.

I do see some other issues that need to be resolved, however. For one, there are only three people in this entire forum, as far as I know, who are capable of banning people. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the current roster of admins:

FliesLikeABrick -- Little activity, busy with life.
EnEsCe -- Active.
Chakra - Inactive.
ElephantHunter - Inactive.
Vijchtidoodah - Inactive.

Of course, I don't really visit other subforums, so the chances of me being wrong are high, but that's one out of five administrators that can be categorized as sufficiently active. Once again, correct me if I'm wrong on this issue. So even if we have lots of active moderators, the threat of being banned is invalid to an extent, as mods can't ban people.

Secondly, if we are going to use a warning system, I believe we need a more automated system. In the Snitz Forums (the old Soldat forums), there was a small triangle with an exclamation point in it below the avatar of anyone who had been given a warning. I believe that the first warning was a yellow triangle and the second warning was a red triangle, with the third warning resulting in a ban. When you hovered your mouse over said triangle, an information balloon would pop up stating what the warning was given for and by whom. If I remember correctly, these warnings would also automatically expire after a certain time period.

As far as I know, FLAB has had real trouble finding a similar addon for the SMF forums (the current forums). I'm not sure if that's still the case or not, but even if it is, I assume that, given the insane amount of highly skilled programmers that the Soldat community houses, we can launch a project of sorts that addresses this issue. Maybe we can get our own members to write code to better the forums.

* Kazuki shrugs.

I also need to be replaced. I'm old. XD

Edit: @Gamer: It's not that we've stopped caring. It's that some of us have moved onto college, significant others, life-molding careers, and so on. Through the principles of prioritization, we just can't be around to do our jobs anymore. And that's why we need to be overthrown.

[blackdevil0742]

If possible can't you just use a color yellow, orange and red for a symbol like for the warning ⚠ or just ☠☠☠ for each warning

As for showing what gave you the warning you could post a reason in the signature with a link to the post.

[Lapis Lazuli]

I agree with everything Kazuki has said.

Being an active moderator is difficult because giving someone a warning requires several PMs, editing a thread, and then setting a date and remembering when exactly to remove said warnings.

[Graham]

Gram, where did you run off to? You're not in the IRC channel anymore. ;_;

MSN, never got around to installing irc after my format. I don't know what is the active channel anymore so I just said balls to that. Just request an add on msn or facebook and you will have a constant stream to me.

[The Philanthropist]

The last thing you want is a vote to decide moderatorship, get some autocracy going. Dictate, don't ask for others opinions.


Clearly, by posting this thread, they have annoyed you. No consult needed, get the banhammer wailing. So essentially this post was initially pointless, but now you say we need new mods. Which is also rather pointless to post here too, considering we of little power probably shouldn't have a say.

So.... lock?

[Kazuki]

Actually, I think I'm going to leave this up in the air for now. Feel free to discuss anything said in this thread.

The main point of it was to send the message, "Stop fecking around, or there really will be consequences."

I'm going to check with the mods and admins to see what they think about renewing the SF staff.

[bja888]

Humm... Lots of activity. Summery of my thoughts thus far.

Thumbs up for jrgp.

Thumbs down for one gram.

Thumbs up for more mods and admins.

Thumbs up for Kazuki for bringing this to light.
(it took me days of whining before someone put up global mods, this would of taken me weeks)

Thumbs up for a better warning/ban system.
There are a hand full of devs that are experienced enough to add to the forum software. The trick is finding one who has the time.

[Mangled*]

Yeah, there needs to be more moderators as well as zero tolerance towards troll topics and excessive troll posts.

Let's face it.. this place has been pretty lax for a while now and I think it's driven away a lot of the older members.

[Laser Guy]

I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed for ya, Kazuki

[Boots]

Glad that you've finally clicked . Maybe posting here will be alot more enjoying D:.

[echo_trail]

I remember when you said "I've never known anyone with such a remarkable ability to make me wanna bash my own skull in", or something close. Holy shedawgfist you are dumb.

I also need to be replaced. I'm old. XD

I would disagree. Being old is not enough to get you a walking ticket. You still have time to do.

edit: fine, fixed..

[Lapis Lazuli]

llllllol

cry more kazuki you b.tch

on a more serious issue, fuuck the swear filter, it is for gays

I remember when you said "I've never known anyone with such a remarkable ability to make me wanna bash my own skull in", or something close. Holy b!tchfist you are dumb.

Abusing the swear filter.

Do not try to get around the swear filter. Doing so will get you a warning, and repeated offenses will only work you through the warning system as mentioned above.  Do you really want to get banned for such a silly thing?

[jrgp]

As far as I know, FLAB has had real trouble finding a similar addon for the SMF forums (the current forums). I'm not sure if that's still the case or not, but even if it is, I assume that, given the insane amount of highly skilled programmers that the Soldat community houses, we can launch a project of sorts that addresses this issue. Maybe we can get our own members to write code to better the forums.

I've talked to flies about the version of SMF this forum is running. It's several years outdated and due to that many of the newer SMF extensions and packages aren't compatible with it. He can't upgrade to the newer versions because the custom theme this installation of SMF uses isn't compatible with them. He's mentioned that if I have time he'll give me the theme sources so I can make convert them over, making switching to SMF 2.x.x painless.

Anyway, if I was given moderator / banning privileges, I'd do the best job I possibly can at cleaning this place up.

[Kazuki]

Frogboy's post has been deleted and he has been banned for two weeks.

I'm not fucking around.

[Horve]

everyone who replies inside a developed troll topic gets an automatic ban

[Kazuki]

Haha! Oh, no, you can bash on the trolls all you like. I'm going to end up deleting the topic anyway.

[mar77a]

If we're not gonna get rid of the swear filter, can we at least get a decent one.. even asterisks will do, f*ckers.

[Twistkill]

If we're not gonna get rid of the swear filter, can we at least get a decent one.. even asterisks will do, f*ckers.

I believe that the swear filters are settings that are disabled by default when you setup a fresh forum. You enter the word you want censored manually and the replacement word in another field next to it. There's also wildcards you can add (an asterisk) to the end of the word to catch variations of it in case people try to bypass it, although it's not fool proof.