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Is a thumb a finger?

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Offline Snake

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The Ultimate Question
« on: January 04, 2009, 02:04:14 pm »
Ok I dont understand why people say that the thumb is not a finger, does anyone here thinks it isnt? if yes please! tell me why!

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2009, 02:11:50 pm »
Why wouldn't it be...?
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Re: The Ultimate Question
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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2009, 02:26:38 pm »


hum...what is that suppossed to mean?

Why wouldn't it be...?

Thats the same question I ask myself

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 02:32:13 pm »
Who's dumb enough to say that it isn't a finger?

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 02:35:42 pm »
Who's dumb enough to say that it isn't a finger?

Some of my Canadian friends I guess lol

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 02:42:11 pm »
Just because the thumb doesn't have "finger" in its name doesn't mean that it's not a finger.

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 02:44:19 pm »
The Thumb

As one of five digits, and as companion to four fingers

The English word "finger" has two senses, even in the context of appendages of a single typical human hand:
The four digits, not including the thumb.
Any of the five digits.

Linguistically, it appears that the original sense was the broader of these two: penkwe-ros (also rendered as penqrós) was, in the inferred Proto-Indo-European language, a suffixed form of penkwe (or penqe), which has given rise to many Indo-European-family words (tens of them defined in English dictionaries) that involve or flow from concepts of fiveness.
The thumb shares the following with each of the (other) four fingers:
Having a skeleton of phalanges, joined by hinge-like joints that provide flexion toward the palm of the hand
Having a "back" surface that features hair and a nail, and a hairless palm-of-the-hand side with fingerprint ridges instead
The thumb contrasts with each of the (other) four by being the only finger that:

Is opposable
Has two phalanges rather than three
Has its inmost phalanx so close to the wrist
Has much greater breadth and stubby proportions
Is attached to such a mobile metacarpus (which produces most of the opposability)

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 03:09:39 pm »
I tend to distinguish between thumbs and fingers, if only because the thumbs have one less joint and serve a different purpose than the rest of them.

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 04:05:59 pm »
In my country, saying that the thumb is not a finger would make you look like a retard.

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 04:06:48 pm »
The Thumb

As one of five digits, and as companion to four fingers

The English word "finger" has two senses, even in the context of appendages of a single typical human hand:
The four digits, not including the thumb.
Any of the five digits.

Linguistically, it appears that the original sense was the broader of these two: penkwe-ros (also rendered as penqrós) was, in the inferred Proto-Indo-European language, a suffixed form of penkwe (or penqe), which has given rise to many Indo-European-family words (tens of them defined in English dictionaries) that involve or flow from concepts of fiveness.
The thumb shares the following with each of the (other) four fingers:
Having a skeleton of phalanges, joined by hinge-like joints that provide flexion toward the palm of the hand
Having a "back" surface that features hair and a nail, and a hairless palm-of-the-hand side with fingerprint ridges instead
The thumb contrasts with each of the (other) four by being the only finger that:

Is opposable
Has two phalanges rather than three
Has its inmost phalanx so close to the wrist
Has much greater breadth and stubby proportions
Is attached to such a mobile metacarpus (which produces most of the opposability)

Nice wiki search.  Just saw that myself.  ;)
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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 04:16:03 pm »
Nice wiki search.  Just saw that myself.  ;)
Oh so you searched it from wiki too.

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 04:30:26 pm »
Hell, I don't need Wikipedia to say that thumb is a finger.

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2009, 04:46:07 pm »
It's different, and yet the same on a few aspects.  Always nice to have a convenient source for some of the basics.
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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2009, 06:02:16 pm »
You can difference between thumb and finger, but it's a finger anyways.

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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2009, 06:14:28 pm »
You can difference between thumb and finger, but it's a finger anyways.

Alright, tell me why it's a finger.

Also, please don't tell me because it's on your hand or because it has hair on it.
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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2009, 06:38:02 pm »
You guys have to agree first on your definition of 'finger.' =.=
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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2009, 06:41:50 pm »
It's a finger because it's attached to your hand, extends from it, and is movable/flexible to an extent. Just because it isn't next to the other 4 fingers doesn't make it not a finger.
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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2009, 06:56:16 pm »
Also, please don't tell me because it's on your hand or because it has hair on it.

Is that really a reason?  Just because it's part of the hand and can move?  I mean, it's different from the fingers and all.
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Re: The Ultimate Question
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2009, 07:11:59 pm »
Question, is the pinky a 'finger' then? Again, you need to first define what is considered a finger to be able to answer what a thumb is.
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