Grenades. Yes nades.

[NinjaXrage]

I reckon nades are overpowered. They are quite easily 1 hit wonders and if they dont kill in one shot they knock your enemy back like half a mile makin them half dead and an easy target. I use nades myself and before about a week ago 50% of my kills were from nades.

I reckon they should be nerfed. Take longer to throw is a good idea. I mean you cant really throw nades that fast can you?

[Demonic]

All major leagues have switched to 3 default grenades, so the problem is solved there.

Contact server owners to change there default nade value to 3, and there'll be no problem : )

[Mr. Domino]

I completely agree. For all the M79 whining, you think there would be more outrage at grenades, which can be chucked like multiple M79 shells within a second or so. I hate that there is no visual sign, either; a good chunk of my deaths are due to surviving an opponent's primary and secondaries and going in for the kill only to get stuffed by a grenade. At least with the M79, if someone fires and misses, you know you have a couple of second window before they can fire again. With grenades, you don't have that luxury and cannot tell how many an enemy has available to throw. It's the one thing I wish would be nerfed.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

Grenades, like most weapons, take skill to use.  A lot of people don't use grenades, and a good deal of the ones that do aren't very skilled with them.  Sure, there's an element of luck involved, and it sucks when that luck is not on your side, but what are you going to do?  And unless something is screwed up on my computer, there's already a startup time for grenades.  I say leave them the way they are.

[Shadow G-Unit]

People hate the m79, Ruger, Barrett, now the gernades? (not all people)

WHAT IS UP WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!

[CrazyArcher]

Nades take skill to use, and can be avoided. They are fine as they are now.

[Gold]

Nades dont take skill to use, unless your trying to play golf with them... they are just a simple average aim then throw and chances are you will get the oponent and i agree fully with Shadow G - Unit's last post, stop whining about weapons that own you & practice.

[Keron Cyst]

All major leagues have switched to 3 default grenades, so the problem is solved there....

Heh, I've always had that setting when fighting against bots (or when I've been able to sporadically host a server fo a few minutes) even when the pub. default was 4 or even 5

[NinjaXrage]

Its still pretty annoying. Its not so much the dmg that pisses me off (I never stay close enuth to ground to be oh koed by nades) but the fact that it blasts you half a mile.

[Edit] Oh btw I dont hate nades I would be a goner without em.

[Hootie hoo]

It's just frustrating to be owned by a nade, which requires next to no skill (mostly =P), instead of fighting to death with an actual gun. I usually have 0-2 nades max.

[Mancer]

My suggest was to slow the rate-of-fire for grenades. Basically, you cant throw them as fast as you can now. Prevents spamming.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

It's just frustrating to be owned by a nade, which requires next to no skill (mostly =P), instead of fighting to death with an actual gun. I usually have 0-2 nades max.

So you'd have no problem with someone fighting you to the death with a barret? It's an actual gun...

Besides, the grenade may need next to no skill to use, but it also takes next to no skill to dodge them.

My suggest was to slow the rate-of-fire for grenades. Basically, you cant throw them as fast as you can now. Prevents spamming.

Don't grenades already have a startup time?

[Mr. Domino]

Don't grenades already have a startup time?

No, there is no start up time, though the wind-up animation acts as a sort of start up you can cancel to do Spas tricks and whatnot. The problem with grenades is that that half second or so wind-up animation still makes it a good last minute point blank option, and it suffers from the same annoying kamikaze effect that the M79 does (user kills enemy but doesn't die/suffer damage himself).

The problem with grenades is that on most servers, most people will carry two to four of them. A person can jet in the air or whatever to get a high position and just nade storm away. When a team does it in shifts, it can be really annoying, especially on maps like Voland or Kampf.

Personally, I think grenades should be treated as a bonus, rare like everything else and not so ridiculously common. Keep the focus on the primary and secondary weapons.

[NinjaXrage]

Personally, I think grenades should be treated as a bonus, rare like everything else and not so ridiculously common. Keep the focus on the primary and secondary weapons.

No... Just slower throw time. And anless you change your nades to a coulour like white or pink its ez to just run into em by accident.

[SDFilm]

Personally, I think grenades should be treated as a bonus, rare like everything else and not so ridiculously common. Keep the focus on the primary and secondary weapons.

You make it sound as if nades are as good as power-ups. 

[Twistkill]

I think nades are fine. Sometimes, however, in a ctf when the efc is leaving the base, one of the teammates behind me throws a nade at him, but it hits me and it propels me backwards really quickly. Obviously, there's no damage, because he's on my team, but now I'm way behind the efc with no hopes of catching up.

[Mr. Domino]

Personally, I think grenades should be treated as a bonus, rare like everything else and not so ridiculously common. Keep the focus on the primary and secondary weapons.

You make it sound as if nades are as good as power-ups. 

They're better than cluster grenades and flamethrower for certain. Beserker is only good for non-one hit weapons, while grenades allow everyone a mass of explosions and one-hit kills. I'm not saying there's as good Predator or Beserker as a bonus goes, just that I wish they were rarer like them -- not as much, but then not as common as they are now.

[SDFilm]

Yes they are very usefull, but I don't think "Oh noes! he has some grenades!

[blackshadow]

in real life, granades are more powerful then in soldat, makin their power of destrution smaller, the game will be boring

[jettlarue]

I think nades are fine. Sometimes, however, in a ctf when the efc is leaving the base, one of the teammates behind me throws a nade at him, but it hits me and it propels me backwards really quickly. Obviously, there's no damage, because he's on my team, but now I'm way behind the efc with no hopes of catching up.

thats a teamwork problem, not really grenade problem :/
btw they are fine as they are. and welcome to the forums blackshadow