Obama's inauguration.

[bja888]

Democrat, Working Class, Communist, Proletariat; Same thing

Just sit around and wait for economic destruction because the masses are lazy. They want free health care and no war. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.

* bja888 starts looking at property in other countries

[frogboy]

hope you enjoy fallujah because everywhere in the developed world is less conservative than the USA.

~dirty marxist communists for healthcare~

also right now investment in public works such as transport and hospitals could serve as an economic stimulus to help boost the economy or something like that

[Slashnoob]

Do you have a source for this, let alone a lot of the other crap you're referring to?

Yes, I, do, ... it was even on CNN and BBC the other day. TV that is.
i'm not even going to bother with the "other crap". you'll have to trust me for not wanting to (biasly) derail or demonise an already elected president.

[frogboy]

they seem to be from the same source and one of them is referred to as a conspiracy theorist. it's also not obama himself but some other guy who's doing it.

[excruciator]

4yo, if a whole country is a factory, it certainly shows that the country is a strong industrial power.
Also, the right of people matters less than you would think. Less freedom could potentially increasing efficiency. Also who cares if most people are poor? Hell like 80% of US's wealth is held by the elite 10% or so. In comparison, you are dirt poor. Yet you say that US is the superpower. Sorta self contradicting isn't it?

[Dascoo]

In comparison, you are dirt poor. Yet you say that US is the superpower. Sorta self contradicting isn't it?

You are comparing him to rich people in a country with the largest number of billionares.

Also America's still massive economy and godlike projection power says they're a superpower.

[Sir Jeremy]

In comparison, you are dirt poor. Yet you say that US is the superpower. Sorta self contradicting isn't it?

You are comparing him to rich people in a country with the largest number of billionares.

Also America's still massive economy and godlike projection power says they're a superpower.

America is trillions of dollars in debt, and nothing at all like a superpower.  China has said, that they could line up over 200,000 (200million) soldiers on their Great wall. 

Israel I believe is the country that has the most nuclear weapons at their disposal.

[kingkitty]

America is trillions of dollars in debt, and nothing at all like a superpower.  China has said, that they could line up over 200,000 (200million) soldiers on their Great wall. 

Israel I believe is the country that has the most nuclear weapons at their disposal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

[Dascoo]

America is trillions of dollars in debt, and nothing at all like a superpower.  China has said, that they could line up over 200,000 (200million) soldiers on their Great wall. 

Israel I believe is the country that has the most nuclear weapons at their disposal.

1. America has been in worse situations. This recent recession isn't as huge as people are making it out to be.

2. China says alot of things. They have a large (and potentially massive) under-equipped ill experienced armed forces, with only a select few units being armed with it's supposedly modern equipment. They have laughable military projection power with very blue-water capablities, which of course they are working on.

In comparison, the United States has a fairly large (second only to China in number of active troops) experienced armed forces that has been very active in the past 2 decades. There are presently numerous naval and air bases around the world (allowing them to react to anything swiftly). America has 12 carrier's worldwide, and I believe 10 amphibious assault ships as well making them more then capable of launching a conventional war with any nation around the world, and fucking them sideways. In comparison PRC has 1 de-commissioned ex-soviet Varyag class, which even in wartime would be useless.

3. Israel has niether denied nor confirmed that they have nuclear weapons, but everyone knows they do. However they do not have anywhere close the amount of nuclear weapons Russia or the U.S. has, and their nuclear weapons possibly are of small yield.

double check what I said, all of this is off the top of my head

[Sir Jeremy]

Maybe the USA has been in worse situations, but this is just the beginning for all we know, and the way it's going now, it's going be tough, if Obama doesn't get the situation under control.

I'm not sure, how good Israel is with it's nuclear powers, but I heard it has massive underground facilities with nuclear weapons. (not verified).

America is trillions of dollars in debt, and nothing at all like a superpower.  China has said, that they could line up over 200,000 (200million) soldiers on their Great wall. 

Israel I believe is the country that has the most nuclear weapons at their disposal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

China currently has the most active troops, even if they might not be as good as the USA, it's not too hard to fire a machine gun.

Israel they are uncertain to how many they have, maybe they have alot more than you think, or less. (who knows).

But, more about this Amero thing, who thinks something like this might become possible in the near future? Do you think this is what Obama tends to do to help the economy?

[Dascoo]

Oh no we're not ending this yet.

1. It's all unpredictable, but seeing as how democrats tend to ease up on debt when they're in command, I'd say they'll have this situation under control.

2. China has no way of getting those troops around efficiently outside the country, let alone in a war with the United States they would lose air and naval superiority possibly within the first 2 weeks, maybe less. Operating a firearm may be pretty simple, but operating an armored vehicle, an aircraft, or using intelligence to your advantage effectively isn't so simple. Also I wasn't aware that crew served machine guns were common issue among PRC soldiers, I was thinking cheap russian copied assault rifles were. My mistake.

I know it's popular belief that the Soviets beat down the German's by sending wave after wave of troops at them, but in reality Germany was doing pretty f**king good until the later half of the war when it was getting it's industry annhilated by allied bombing. On the otherhand Soviets were recieving aid, and were benefiting from moving their factories east. Silly Nazi's never heavily invested on strategic bombing

The whole ZERG RUSH concept is ridiculous and in reality it works only for a short while. China did indeed use it during the Korean War, but on unsuspecting Americans who then later beat them back to the demarcation line.

3. Israel does not have the capability to manufacture more then 300 warheads. Even then they would be small yield.

4. Amero is silly since 2 of the countries that would be part of the hypothetical economic union already call their currency the dollar.

[excruciator]

In comparison, you are dirt poor. Yet you say that US is the superpower. Sorta self contradicting isn't it?

You are comparing him to rich people in a country with the largest number of billionares.

Majority of the pop.is still dirt poor in comparison. Isn't it.

I admire your patriotism. But the truth is, the era of the US is nearly over. Period. And the recent economic recession and stuff sorta proves it.

Also you have to realize that military superiority is not everything. War is the last thing a country will resort to. It's more realistic if a country resort to threaten another country economically.

Last point. Yes, soviet send wave after wave of troops. So what? It won them the war! Like Stalin once said, Quantity has a quality all its own. You just can't deny that.

EDIT:

You have to realize one advantage China have over US. US is democratic. Look at Iraq right now, most of Americans want to pull out! And the war is not even THAT big. Democracy and big wars can't go hand to hand. US probably won't get conscription right. How the F are they gonna fight in a bigass war without conscription.

America is trillions of dollars in debt, and nothing at all like a superpower.  China has said, that they could line up over 200,000 (200million) soldiers on their Great wall. 

Israel I believe is the country that has the most nuclear weapons at their disposal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

Your link proves nothing if you can't gimmi the exact data of how much a soldier or a nuke you can sell for.(to repay the dept)

[frogboy]

Last point. Yes, soviet send wave after wave of troops. So what? It won them the war! Like Stalin once said, Quantity has a quality all its own. You just can't deny that.

haven't been following BUT its definitely not as simple as saying that stalin had more numbers. from what i remember it was a mix of hitler's hubris, russia's scorched earth policy and the harsh russian winter that caused germany to fail.

e: stalin's brutality towards his own troops probably helped them to survive until the winter too.

[miles moses]

dur hur hur politics on a game forum

the shitty thing about america having a black president is that every stupid nigga rapper thinks their shit don't stink and they have phds in politics even though they know nothing about what obama wants to do in office... all they care is that he's black and he's president

its the same here in australia, a while back there was an aboriginal chocklit baby adopted by white crackers and they put him in athletics when he was growing up and he became a really good runner. all of a sudden the aboriginal community falls in love with him because he went to the olympics or some shit and whisks him away and tells his white parents to get fucked

[excruciator]

Last point. Yes, soviet send wave after wave of troops. So what? It won them the war! Like Stalin once said, Quantity has a quality all its own. You just can't deny that.

haven't been following BUT its definitely not as simple as saying that stalin had more numbers. from what i remember it was a mix of hitler's hubris, russia's scorched earth policy and the harsh russian winter that caused germany to fail.

e: stalin's brutality towards his own troops probably helped them to survive until the winter too.

I never said that number was the only factor that helped them to win the war. But it's importance it's undeniable.

dur hur hur politics on a game forum

the s**tty thing about america having a black president is that every stupid ***** rapper thinks their s**t don't stink and they have phds in politics even though they know nothing about what obama wants to do in office... all they care is that he's black and he's president

its the same here in australia, a while back there was an aboriginal chocklit baby adopted by white crackers and they put him in athletics when he was growing up and he became a really good runner. all of a sudden the aboriginal community falls in love with him because he went to the olympics or some s**t and whisks him away and tells his white parents to get f**ked

That reminded me. I think you all heard about this.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/SNL_Tracy_Morgan_defends_Barack_Obama_0316.html

What the video from 03:12 to the end.

Great stuff.

[ElephantHunter]

Do you have a source for this, let alone a lot of the other crap you're referring to?

Yes, I, do, ... it was even on CNN and BBC the other day. TV that is.
i'm not even going to bother with the "other crap". you'll have to trust me for not wanting to (biasly) derail or demonise an already elected president.

Those "sources" are a load of bull. Just reading them makes me ill. You're an idiot and conspiracy theorist.

I can't say anything about bigfoot, but here's some fun facts:

This resolution is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. José Serrano [sponsor of H.J. Resolution 5] has sponsored 114 bills since Jan 5, 1993. of which 107 haven't made it out of committee and 1 were successfully enacted. GovTrack.us

[Mr.Spoon]

It's funny to see how they talk about the regression as a means of giving Obama a third term... when he just started his first.

Anyway... people, you have to understand that there will always be different opinions about how a nation should be run. Stop bickering before anything has even happened. Be happy that you can look back and say: "I knew he'd screw up", if he does in the end.

[kingkitty]

China currently has the most active troops, even if they might not be as good as the USA, it's not too hard to fire a machine gun.

So you admit that you were lying when you said "China has 200 million troops"?

Israel they are uncertain to how many they have, maybe they have alot more than you think, or less. (who knows)

So you admit that you were simply spouting bullshit when you said "Israel has the most active nukes"?

But, more about this Amero thing, who thinks something like this might become possible in the near future? Do you think this is what Obama tends to do to help the economy?

Obama has not expressed any interest in the Amero. I doubt it will happen in the near future.
 

Your link proves nothing if you can't gimmi the exact data of how much a soldier or a nuke you can sell for.(to repay the dept)

My link proves that China doesn't have 300 million troops and that Israel does not have the most active nuclear weapons.

[frogboy]

I never said that number was the only factor that helped them to win the war. But it's importance it's undeniable.

in other words you're backpedalling from "they won because of numbers" to the obvious "bigger armies have a slightly better chance of winning"

[Dascoo]

Last point. Yes, soviet send wave after wave of troops. So what? It won them the war! Like Stalin once said, Quantity has a quality all its own. You just can't deny that.

No it didn't. It cost the soviets tens of millions of lives, and when they were using large waves of people to assault a position it was during the early half of the war. You know, where they were on the defensive and getting there ass severely kicked.

Also I'm Canadian.