Inf maps switching

[tendulker]

Hello everyone,

Don't know if this has been suggested before as I couldn't find it in the search box . I know people here are generally against others trying to implement some aspect of a popular video game into Soldat, but I think this is actually relevant...or maybe not.

Either way, here is my simple suggestion. Currently, whenever you are in a _inf game you are always either defending or attacking, even after map changes, and both call for radically different styles of play. You usually can't get a chance to experience the other style unless somebody leaves and the number of people on each team is left in your favor, or if somebody agrees to switch teams with you. Usually though, if one side is winning consistently (sometimes the design of maps can also play a part in this), many people would not agree to switch. My suggestion is (probably optional) to make everybody in each team switch teams after each map. Effectively, everybody in the blue team becomes red and vice versa.

Not sure if anyone noticed but this is how Halo 3's one flag CTF is played. As far I know, this probs. wouldn't be too difficult to implement. Anyone know if something like this can be scripted?

I dunno, what do you guys think? Poll?

[chutem]

Yeah it can be scripted in 5 minutes.

Would be good as an option though, F12.

[scarface09]

Yeah this can be done..but i'm not sure if people will want it. I'm Neutral for this idea. Also add a poll and see how it goes mate.

[SpiltCoffee]

As far as public servers go, you could just list each map twice and install a script to automatically switch the teams.

Competition wise, players can switch teams themselves.

It's possible to do it with currently available features, imo.

[homerofgods]

so red is allways the defending team or the other way around?
doesn't it depend on the map`?

[Gotfryd]

Good idea. An option like this will be useful.

Yeah it can be scripted in 5 minutes.

Still I say F12 - it's more convenient for ordinary players to have this in Soldat options than to script it.

I dunno, what do you guys think? Poll?

Of course add a poll!
(I love polls )

so red is allways the defending team or the other way around?
doesn't it depend on the map`?

In infiltration Red Team is always attacking, Blue Team is always defending. It does not depend on map, it's hardcoded in game.

[Duck Boi]

This is already in ARRSE, it switches the teams on map change.

[LtKillroy]

I coulda sworn a server shuffled teams. I dunno, good for option but doable already. F12 but unnecessary.

[tendulker]

I don't know anything about scripts, but in a game w/ auto-balance and even number teams, wouldn't the server just push the 'offender' back into the other team as soon as they switched (forced by script)?

Perhaps, the servers mentioned had auto-balance disabled?

Another way could possibly include
1. forcing one person into spec on say, the alpha team,
2. then force one bravo team member to switch,
3. and lastly, put the spec guy into bravo,
4. and rinse and repeat, alternating the team from which the to-be spectator comes from (actually this isn't needed, looks cooler, though).

And, if this could work, since it would most likely take place in between maps with the stat? screen up, there would be no freaky screen switching, just some fancy name juggling.

'Would be cool if someone with a scripting background responded to this. Is this possible? Anybody willing to take upon this "5 min" project?

[SpiltCoffee]

Another way could possibly include
1. forcing one person into spec on say, the alpha team,
2. then force one bravo team member to switch,
3. and lastly, put the spec guy into bravo,
4. and rinse and repeat, alternating the team from which the to-be spectator comes from (actually this isn't needed, looks cooler, though).

Unnecessary. Just switch them straight over to the other team. If you have a balance script, then you could integrate the team switching into it.

[tendulker]

Unnecessary. Just switch them straight over to the other team. If you have a balance script, then you could integrate the team switching into it.

Balancing is a script? I thought it was coded into soldat.

[SpiltCoffee]

Well, there's an option to prevent the teams being stacked, but it only works to a point. If someone leaves with this on, and suddenly the difference between teams is more than one (which would call for an unbalance in the teams), it does nothing to correct it. Therefore, a balance script is much more useful in that it will also balance in this situation, as well as preventing teamstacking and whatnot.

[chutem]

I don't know anything about scripts, but in a game w/ auto-balance and even number teams, wouldn't the server just push the 'offender' back into the other team as soon as they switched (forced by script)?

Perhaps, the servers mentioned had auto-balance disabled?

Another way could possibly include
1. forcing one person into spec on say, the alpha team,
2. then force one bravo team member to switch,
3. and lastly, put the spec guy into bravo,
4. and rinse and repeat, alternating the team from which the to-be spectator comes from (actually this isn't needed, looks cooler, though).

And, if this could work, since it would most likely take place in between maps with the stat? screen up, there would be no freaky screen switching, just some fancy name juggling.

'Would be cool if someone with a scripting background responded to this. Is this possible? Anybody willing to take upon this "5 min" project?

That is really overcomplicated.

[tehsnipah]

It would be nice if they had TF2 like gameplay on INF. After reds played, then blues should get to be red after.

[scarface09]

why is it F11 - Easily Scriptable...shouldn't that be a neutral choice?

[L[0ne]R]

Having this as an actual feature instead of script would be nice since not everyone knows how to script. It would be nice to see this added at some point, but right now I'm fine with the fact that it's scriptable.
I like to stay on same team for long time, so I dont feel like I really want this so bad. 

[SpiltCoffee]

Having this as an actual feature instead of script would be nice since not everyone knows how to script.

But the people who know how to script are server admins, so that point isn't valid. Plus, once one person makes it, everyone can use it (assuming they share it).

[Gotfryd]

Having this as an actual feature instead of script would be nice since not everyone knows how to script.

But the people who know how to script are server admins, so that point isn't valid.

But not all server admins know how to script. For example when I invite friends to a LAN party, I set up my own server. Unfortunately I don't know how to script. Of course, I know that installing scripts made by others can't be hard to do, but I don't have time to find scripts I want and learn how to do install them. That's why I think it's better to have things like this coded in Soldat instead of having to script it.

Plus, once one person makes it, everyone can use it (assuming they share it).

And when it's hardcoded into Soldat also everyone can use it.

[SpiltCoffee]

Having this as an actual feature instead of script would be nice since not everyone knows how to script.

But the people who know how to script are server admins, so that point isn't valid.

But not all server admins know how to script. For example when I invite friends to a LAN party, I set up my own server. Unfortunately I don't know how to script. Of course, I know that installing scripts made by others can't be hard to do, but I don't have time to find scripts I want and learn how to do install them. That's why I think it's better to have things like this coded in Soldat instead of having to script it.

Plus, once one person makes it, everyone can use it (assuming they share it).

And when it's hardcoded into Soldat also everyone can use it.

Step 1. Search for the script.
Step 2. Download the script.
Step 3. Install the script.

Takes all of five minutes, less if you're pro.

[STM1993]

I'd F12 even though I know full well that this can be easily scripted and scripts can be easily installed.