PC's vs. Consoles, A civil discussion.

[PANZERCATWAGON]

if a game is both on a console and the pc i will usually get it for the pc if there are modding capabilities

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[Wormdundee]

Just responding to one thing I saw in the first post. TVs do not have better resolution than a computer monitor. I don't know where you got that idea from. Monitors can get up to 2560 x 1600 and beyond. As far as I know, there are no TVs that go that high. Since 1080p is 1900 x 1080 I think? Somewhere around there.

As for the topic.

PC advantages are the huge modification communities that can spring up around games. For one important example, Oblivion. It was a huge mistake for me to get that game on console, because it was fundamentally broken. The leveling system was pointless and there were quite a few glitches. I look at the Oblivion wikia, and I get depressed because of all the awesome stuff I missed.
In general, games will look better on a PC, which is pretty straightforward.
The input methods for a computer are pretty much necessary for some games. For instance, I cannot comprehend playing Team Fortress 2 or Left 4 Dead on a console. It just wouldn't work nearly as well.
And this only really applies to the 360, but, fucking goddamn shit proprietary hardware. Fuck you Microsoft, fuck you. 100 dollar wireless adapter? Check. Paying well over a dollar/gigabyte on your stupid fucking hard drive? Check. Seriously, that console is the best example of how not to do hardware. Still love the games though.

As for consoles, you can be way more comfortable while playing a console game. Just lying down on the couch is great. And it's gotten better recently because everything now uses wireless controllers.
Being able to have 4 people playing on the same screen is also good. You can't recreate 4 player Little Big Planet on a PC. Not to mention Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix tournaments, good times there.

Tired of typing now.

[a-4-year-old]

Consoles, "pro's":

My favourite points are marked in bold.my remarks are in bold

-Turns on instantly. No it doesn't, certainly not the PS3, which is the only one that can seriously compete with a computer's raw power
-Shut's down instantly Again, not ps3
-Friends are visible NO MATTER WHAT GAME YOU OR THEY ARE PLAYING.  Play a steam game, the service is simply better on the PC ESPECIALLY if you run the game in windowed mode
-No Installing
-Up to 4 players. All sharing a tiny screen, split screen is basically gone anyway
-Can play lying down, upside down, sitting, whatever. you can do that with pc, if you get stuck using that horrible controller
-Takes seconds to get running, it's all plug and play, it's all there, it's all installed, it's all NETWORKED. at the expense of all the benefits of a multitasking computer
-No need to set up internet, just plug in the modem. ?? are you kidding? what kind of trauma did you experience with your computer?  PC gets the clear win here for being superior internet support and also NO BULLSHIT CHARGES
-Much easier to learn and master, and all PC's game rely on pixel perfect aiming, and it is very hard for a consoles player to reciece this, so an aimbot is used in most games, allowing players to get better quicker.  That is a gross simplification of PC games, if you're the frat boy who likes games for stupid people you should keep the 360, but a player with a console controller is handicapped against a PC user even in the same game.
-Wireless controllers that can be carried anywhere, as they are very light and nifty. except controllers are total shit so they're clearly worse than wireless keyboard and mouse, except those same controllers are also available for the PC so your argument here is moot
-Invite your friends over to your house and play soem Halo/MGS4/Gears/What ever. Clearly only good for some 8 year old's party game
-Immense interactivity with the Wii.
-Consoles own the best selling game of all time, Halo 3 mostly because its a PC shooter thats been dulled down for xbox monkeys to play.
-Matchmaking makes gaming easier, just press "Find game" and some games even have "Search for good connection" or another type of filter. Host and Join is no longer the "in" thing. easier isn't better, hosting dedicated servers wins over consoles every time.
-Updates passed directly on to your console, no need to quit and go the the website and reboot the game. updates passed directly through steam or through the game itself, because we play modern PC games
-Marketplace and store allows you to buy expansions (if they need money) to expand your game, instead of buying an $20-$40 expansion pack from a store. which is a total rip off because we get that content for free, "buy a wallpaper for your xbox!"
-TV's are far superior to Computer screens (In size and res). this is just simply false, I don't know where you were told that, but its ass backwards
-ALL new consoles (Barring the Wii) games run at 1080p, allowing crystal clear delicious clarity. which is just barely on par with the LCD screens computers have been running
-NO MORE RETURNING THE GAME because you don't have the system specs or you dont meet minumum requirements, you always have it the maximum. I guess if you're an idiot and you don't know what your specs are
-Game are engineered to run at full capacity with no lag, so you'll get very few frame rate frops (VERY few), I personally have had none. its the exact same thing for PCs, I'm seriously doubting your intelligence at this point
-You get Halo 3. a bloated pile of shit which plays like a dulled down version of quake 2
-You get MGS4. you can order movies online for your computer as well, and they're cheaper
-You get achievments (Or "Trophy's) (They are very fun to work for, adn the more you get the more... prestige I suppose people reveer for you.) or they make every server filled with idiots trying to farm achievements to make their epenis bigger, or they are also on steam
-Controllers are so much more comfortable than keyboards. if your tiny brain hurts when you see all the buttons
-You don't strain your eyes looking at the screen, unless it's a small telly. yes, because focusing on a relatively small object from relatively far away is less of a strain on your eyes than focusing on a large object from much closer
-It's made for gaming, and does just that VERY well. except games also do that and much more just as well
-No viruses! All game files are virus-free! where are you stealing your pc games from?
-Although possible, I've never seen or heard of any hackers. there are, the wii had a serious problem with them online
-Add more for me. no I won't instead I should delete all the stupid out of your post.



Cons:

-Graphics are not that latest and greatest, though Gears of War 2 begs to differ. its all fucking grey, it honestly looks like shit on a tv screen
-No mods on 360's or PS3's... yet. (You can mod Xbox 1) and ruin the warranty



PC Pros:

-I've seen a 1792MB graphics card running Crysis. WOW HOLY WOW!
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Intense frame rates.
-Intense aiming for most games, with no aimbot existent. simply superior control
-The raw power of PC's is awesome.
-Battlefield 2
-Battlefield 2142.
-Crysis
-RTS's (I personally don't liek RTS, but I stand alone really).
-Add more points for me.
-Infinite memory with USB's and External hardrives.
Networking is superior in every conceivable way
We did Microphone right and first
all the games for the Xbox are better on the PC
PC has millions more games
the same game is $10 cheaper
PC offers superior control
PC games are better
PC dominates every genre


Cons:

-Self! Self! Self! Only one players, and all crowding the computer screen sucks! online multiplayer
-I hate keyboards.
-Too close to the screen, you can see the pixels and the colour blurs on old monitors. are we comparing the apple 2 to the 360 or are you so far out of ideas?
-I prefer Lying down or on a bean bag. oh well, I guess we should all sell our graphics cards and convert, you've convinced us all!
-Hands are spread apart, and you can only do one thing with each (WASD and Mouse on most games). what the fuck is that argument? you don't even make sense and its certainly not a con
-Friends? What friends?
-Not family friendly as you have to sit by yourself in a room to play.
-No 40" Sony Bravia LCD to play on.... (I have RGB at the back, but my 360 is plugged in on the Component, I don't like PC gaming). this is your worst argument yet, you could plug in but you just don't so its bad, why are you even here?
-Installing games sucks. it only takes 5 minutes
-Uninstalling?  Oh dear, don't bring that up.
-WAY TO MANY HACKERS. Just like the consoles it depends entirely on the game
-WAY TO MANY VIRUSES. you've just vomitted bullshit all over your keyboard
-I want to play a serious game of.... BF2 let's say, just plain old battlefield 2, and I have to naviagate through a gabagillion servers just to find a non-modded game with a good population and latency. thats because nobody likes vanilla BF2 now because its so fucking old
-You either have a gaming PC or you don't, so you get good graphics or you don't. TF2 easily runs on a midrange.
-Expensive. because the PS3 + Plasma screen isn't expensive at all

Ok, so try not to include personal opinion, but you may include personal experience except thats all you did

[Espadon]

Consoles, "pro's":
-TV's are far superior to Computer screens (In size and res). this is just simply false, I don't know where you were told that, but its ass backwards

Lots of vidcards have an HDMI port I think, letting you hook up your computer to your HDTV for awesome win.

[Xxypher]

I don't think this guy has heard of the company, Valve.
The online and gameplay of their games are amazing.

[croat1gamer]

and the best one
valve software.

I don't think this guy has heard of the company, Valve.
The online and gameplay of their games are amazing.

where should i copyright myself?
it gets kinda annoying

but, what should we do with linux, cause it can operate on both pc and console (least, i found out so)

btw. 4yo, just epic

and something more for pc:
after the install you dont need the cd (yes, yes, i know, but a no-cd cr**k on an original game doesnt sound illegal to me)

[Xxypher]

I now love a 4 year old after reading his post.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

Consoles, "pro's":
-TV's are far superior to Computer screens (In size and res). this is just simply false, I don't know where you were told that, but its ass backwards

Lots of vidcards have an HDMI port I think, letting you hook up your computer to your HDTV for awesome win.

Actually, I didn't even catch that until he brought it up.  Truth is, the most you're going to get out of a TV is 1920x1080 resolution.  For comparison, my laptop screen has 1920x1200.  And yes, connecting your computer to your TV is awesome.

[jrgp]

To be honest, if there's a game I want to get and don't care about multiplayer and there is a pc and xbox1 version, I'll go for the xbox1 version. I've grown up playing FPS' on consoles mostly and I'm actually better with a pair of thumbsticks than with a mouse.

[LtKillroy]

For me, console will never and can ever win because the mouse and keyboard is superior in almost all respects to the controller and you can buy a controller for your PC. Plus, most of the XBox games come out for PC.

Keyboard > controller because of more buttons.
Mouse > joystick because better twitch control and/or higher sensitivity. You can't have both near as easily on joystick.

The only problem with PC's is outside actually playing the games, they tend to cost more because you have to keep upgrading *usually* faster than consoles come out if you want to play the latest games.

Also, PC's have better backward compatability than consoles. Also, PC's have emulators.

PC win.

*edit*
After actually reading the topic, the first post grossly underestimates the LAN party. I can play with many many many more people than 4 (most I've played with is 16, usually 10) so PC wins there.

[Mangled*]

A console has a limited lifespan, once the next generation of consoles come along, games stop coming out for it and most people move on to buy newer consoles.

Meanwhile the PC is a continuous platform, you can play games that are more than 20 years old on PC's. To have a nostalgic session of playing something like Sonic The Hedgehog you don't have to dig out some old, dusty slab of plastic and wires out of your basement. PC's can emulate console frameworks to play games that didn't come out on PC.

Consoles are a limited platform in every sense possible and they aren't cheap. That isn't to say that PC's aren't expensive, but you certainly get more bang for your buck and an overall more useful machine. PC games are always cheaper than console versions and can be acquired using PC's in non-orthodox manners for free.

There's no argument in my opinion. Anybody who thinks consoles are 'better' needs their head checked.

[Dascoo]

Friends? What friends?

DOHOHOHOHO

[Gnoblar]

2. Consoles are built almost strictly for gaming, but PCs have many other purposes.
Don't you agree?

Yes, Completely.

my god gnoblar you're trolling aren't you
your 'discussion' is based around graphics and internet

Uh.... Pickles?
I have a horrible Graphics card (256MB no Vertex Shaders) and My internet connection is pretty ordinary at 161Kbp/s downloads (not bandwidth). So  I woukdn;t bring that up. PC's have better networking and graphics. So you're just a goose.

**that is why is soldat such an awesome games even with really past gen graphics
***except the ps1, it still rocks

If PS1 rocks, you should not be comparing graphics. I love the original smash brothers and the revolutionary Goldeneye 64 (The first game to have split-screen I think). I preferred the 64 over PS1, never got into Play Station.

It's also fundamentally more natural to control the angle of the aim (mouse), not the angular velocity of the aim (analog stick).

I beg to differ, I much prefer analog aim, it somehow is far more satisfying to get that no-scoped headshot in Halo 3 than Halo 2 vista, with pixel-perfect aiming. But that's opinion.

You'd have to press the analog to one side and wait for the cursor to turn to one direction really slowly.

Change the look sensitivity (My Halo 3 Sensitivity is 6/10).

Graphics-wise, I don't really care as long as they are reasonably good and the hitbox matches the appearance very accurately. That would mean (without considering lag) no such thing as shooting the side of a chest and considered a miss OR being shot at the air and counted as a hit.

Halo 3's are excellent, I've never had many problems, you can play Halo 3 with a yellow connection and do well! Although you'll notice the difference, it's just not the same. Gears of war 2's aren't too bad I suppose. Better than CS!

I'm comparing everything to Halo 3 because it's got everything a console game needs and all the features that console games can be compared with.

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Being able to have 4 people playing on the same screen is also good. You can't recreate 4 player Little Big Planet on a PC. Not to mention Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix tournaments, good times there.

Super smash brothers.




Aha. An interesting arguement, full of angry 4-year-old goodness, let's rebutt.

Consoles, "pro's":

I have rebutted agaist all you're points.

-Turns on instantly. No it doesn't, certainly not the PS3, which is the only one that can seriously compete with a computer's raw power. I wouldn’t know, I don’t like/play PS3
-Shut's down instantly  Again, not ps3 Ditto
-Friends are visible  NO MATTER WHAT GAME YOU OR THEY ARE PLAYING.   Play a steam game, the service is simply better on the PC ESPECIALLY if you run the game in windowed mode. The steam game engine sucks, but other than that, it’s very fun, I agree with you here
No Installing  I see you agree. 
-Up to  4  players. All sharing a tiny screen, split screen is basically gone anyway.  It’s fine on a projector/big LCD, trust me.  On a decent TV, your split-screen can be bigger, or the same size as, a standard computer screen, and that’s with four people! If you want bigger, get a projector! What a horrible point to bring up .
-Can play lying down, upside down, sitting, whatever. You can do that with pc, if you get stuck using that horrible controller.  Why would you be stuck with a horrible controller?
-Takes seconds to get running, it's all plug and play, it's all there, it's all installed, it's all NETWORKED. at the expense of all the benefits of a multitasking computer.  Why would you want a PowerPoint on a console? Consoles are for gaming, don’t get carried away with invalid arguements
-No need to set up internet, just plug in the modem. ?? are you kidding? what kind of trauma did you experience with your computer?  PC gets the clear win here for being superior internet support and also NO BULLs**t CHARGES  True, I had none, but connection problems are so much more severe on PC
-Much easier to learn and master, and all PC's game rely on pixel perfect aiming, and it is very hard for a consoles player to reciece this, so an aimbot is used in most games, allowing players to get better quicker. That is a gross simplification of PC games, if you're the frat boy who likes games for stupid people you should keep the 360, but a player with a console controller is handicapped against a PC user even in the same game.  That’s why they’re not versing eachother. “If you’re a frat boy who likes game for stupid people you should keep the 360”. I’ll go back to the best selling game of all time, fine.
-Wireless controllers that can be carried anywhere, as they are very light and nifty.  except controllers are total s**t so they're clearly worse than wireless keyboard and mouse, except those same controllers are also available for the PC so your argument here is moot.  So is yours. I can make my 360 controller work from teh other end of the house, and facing the wrong way. You fail.
-Invite your friends over to your house and play soem Halo/MGS4/Gears/What ever. Clearly only good for some 8 year old's party game.  Or a LAN party. I beats lugging over an Ethernet cord/Tower/Monitor/Games and then you’ve got two players (Laptops are better for this). Whereas consoles, One person bring a 360, you’ve got one, you can have 8 players straight away.
-Immense interactivity with the Wii.  You didn’t reply. How predictable
-Consoles own the best selling game of all time, Halo 3. mostly because its a PC shooter thats been dulled down for xbox monkeys to play.  Many a PC gamer hate Halo 3. It’s because it’s the best game in the world, and PC gamers don’t get it “It’s got bad graphics, take me to the wambulance” It’s fun as well.... (I’m saying that based on number of copies sold, not how I like it). Go back to you’re solitaire. .
-Matchmaking makes gaming easier, just press "Find game" and some games even have "Search for good connection" or another type of filter. Host and Join is no longer the "in" thing. easier isn't better, hosting dedicated servers wins over consoles every time. Bad Company and BF2:MC have Dedicated servers (Though Modern Combat SUCKS).
-Updates passed directly on to your console, no need to quit and go the the website and reboot the game. Updates passed directly through steam or through the game itself, because we play modern PC games.  Aaah, good to hear you’re catching up
-Marketplace and store allows you to buy expansions (if they need money) to expand your game, instead of buying an $20-$40 expansion pack from a store.  which is a total rip off because we get that content for free, "buy a wallpaper for your xbox  Who the hell buys wallpapers?. Poor arguement.
-TV's are far superior to Computer screens (In size and res). this is just simply false, I don't know where you were told that, but its ass backwards  40” beats 22” I’ve got my monitor running at 1050 x 1600 and the TV running at 1900 x 1080. The TV looks a lot better. WAY better.
-ALL new consoles (Barring the Wii) games run at 1080p, allowing crystal clear delicious clarity. which is just barely on par with the LCD screens computers have been running.  Yeah, but it looks a lot more gorgeous on a widescreen TV than on a (sure, nice resolution) but still small screen.
-NO MORE RETURNING THE GAME because you don't have the system specs or you dont meet minumum requirements, you always have it the maximum. I guess if you're an idiot and you don't know what your specs are.   I look at the back of a case it says “64MB of video RAM needed” So I go “Oh my graphics card is at 256, I can easily play this!” No vertex shader, sorry you can’t play this game. s**t. No mention of vertex shaders on the cover, and I had to dxdiag to see if I had any. Consoles, you know you can play it, on the highest graphics, no worries, no more money spent on upgrades, you’re done .
-Game are engineered to run at full capacity with no lag, so you'll get very few frame rate drops (VERY few), I personally have had none. its the exact same thing for PCs, I'm seriously doubting your intelligence at this point.  I’m doubting your intelligence. Processor not up to it? Ram not quite high enough? You get frame rate drops. Consoles? Processor high enough. Yes. Ram high enough. Yes. You’re set. PC’s: s**t! I have to upgrade. More money spent. Oh wait! I can get that game to work perfectly on my console without buying anything! I return the game and get it on consoles .
-You get Halo 3. .a bloated pile of s**t which plays like a dulled down version of quake 2.  Tell that to the $260,000,000 it raised within the first 24 hours or release.
-You get MGS4.  you can order movies online for your computer as well, and they're cheaper.  Two things: 1: Or torrent and get them free and 2: Movies? Movies? MSG4 is a game? I don’t know what you’re thinking of
-You get achievments (Or "Trophy's) (They are very fun to work for, adn the more you get the more... prestige I suppose people reveer for you.)  or they make every server filled with idiots trying to farm achievements to make their epenis bigger, or they are also on steam You get that in every game. I have to agree, but you have to agree, that this kind of crap happens with every game, you’re always going to get your morons
-Controllers are so much more comfortable than keyboards.  if your tiny brain hurts when you see all the buttons You’re getting angry. That is either a) because I made valid arguements and you refuse to believe that they are valid, or b) You’re an angry person. I’m guessing b), to give you the benefit of the doubt. I said “COMFORTABLE” not “THEY ARE SO MUCH LESS COMPLEX AND BECAUSE I SAID THAT I HAVE A TINY BRAIN”. You were doubting my intelligence, there’s a thing called English, learn to read it.
-You don't strain your eyes looking at the screen, unless it's a small telly. yes, because focusing on a relatively small object from relatively far away is less of a strain on your eyes than focusing on a large object from much closer. On a bigger screen, the little object becomes bigger, allowing you to focus clearer, though this point (By you and AND me) is pretty useless.
-It's made for gaming, and does just that VERY well.  except games also do that and much more just as well Depending on your PC
-No viruses! All game files are virus-free! where are you stealing your pc games from?  I meant viruses from the internet, not from games, I’ve never gotten from PC games or Consoles.
-Although possible, I've never seen or heard of any hackers.  there are, the wii had a serious problem with them online.  Yeah, but the only thing wii has that’s good is Wii sports (So dumb it’s fun) and Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Wii is horrible .
-Add more for me. no I won't instead I should delete all the stupid out of your post.  Do you want a skirt to go with that blouse? .



 Cons:

-Graphics are not that latest and greatest, though Gears of War 2 begs to differ. its all f**king grey, it honestly looks like s**t on a tv screen   Get a better TV, change the setting in the options menu to “Vivid”. I don’t really like Gears 2, so don’t flame it and expect me to care.
-No mods on 360's or PS3's... yet. (You can mod Xbox 1) and ruin the warranty. Yeah, but hey, who cares?



 PC Pros:

-I've seen a 1792MB graphics card running Crysis. WOW HOLY WOW!
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Graphics are intense.
-Intense frame rates.
-Intense aiming for most games, with no aimbot existent.   simply superior control
-The raw power of PC's is awesome.
-Battlefield 2
-Battlefield 2142.
-Crysis
-RTS's (I personally don't liek RTS, but I stand alone really).
-Add more points for me.
-Infinite memory with USB's and External hardrives.
  Networking is superior in every conceivable way
We did Microphone right and first
all the games for the Xbox are better on the PC
PC has millions more games And %80 are absolutre s**te. Number of games has no relevance, it's in number of games sold.
the same game is $10 cheaper WRONG. More expensive. It depends where you look really.
PC offers superior controlOver what? Websurfing?
PC games are better That’s obviously why they DON’T have the best selling game of all time, it’s also why PC gaming HASN’T boomed by 50 Billion USD in the last 5 years, like consoles. I must remember that...
PC dominates every genre
 

 Cons:

-Self! Self! Self! Only one players, and all crowding the computer screen sucks! online multiplayer  Is fun yes, but irrelevant to my point. I’m talking playing with people in your house
-I hate keyboards. I’m sorry I brang this up, ignore it
-Too close to the screen, you can see the pixels and the colour blurs on old monitors. are we comparing the apple 2 to the 360 or are you so far out of ideas?   Once again, you must think about purchasing some eyes, as I did say “OLDER MONITORS” I’m talking non-LCD/Plasma.
-I prefer Lying down or on a bean bag. oh well, I guess we should all sell our graphics cards and convert, you've convinced us all  Wonderful! But I’d keep the graphics card .
-Hands are spread apart, and you can only do one thing with each (WASD and Mouse on most games).  what the f**k is that argument? you don't even make sense and its certainly not a con  Yeah, you’re dead right here, I am going to delete this from the main post
-Friends? What friends?
-Not family friendly as you have to sit by yourself in a room to play.
-No 40" Sony Bravia LCD to play on.... (I have RGB at the back, but my 360 is plugged in on the Component, I don't like PC gaming).   this is your worst argument yet, you could plug in but you just don't so its bad, why are you even here? Because moving the PC is a waste of time.
-Installing games sucks.   it only takes 5 minutes Depending on your PC, it's 5 minutes of time wasted (Depending on the game) and it uses anywhere from 1-12GB (The biggest I';ve seen is 12GB)
-Uninstalling?  Oh dear, don't bring that up.
-WAY TO MANY HACKERS.   Just like the consoles it depends entirely on the game True.
-WAY TO MANY VIRUSES.  you've just vomitted bulls**t all over your keyboard You're then one breathing it.
-I want to play a serious game of.... BF2 let's say, just plain old battlefield 2, and I have to naviagate through a gabagillion servers just to find a non-modded game with a good population and latency. thats because nobody likes vanilla BF2 now because its so f**king old.   True, but this was ages ago. I play Project Reality now
-You either have a gaming PC or you don't, so you get good graphics or you don't. TF2 easily runs on a midrange.  Yeah, but I don’t like it, but that’s opinion, you’re on fact there, so that’s a good point
-Expensive.  because the PS3 + Plasma screen isn't expensive at all.
LCD 40” Bravia = $2200(Australian) (On sale as well  ) Xbox 360 = ~$400 AUSD. All up 2600 Approx. I’ve seen graphics card for that much alone. Nuff said. But this arguement is sort of dumb, because you use TV’s for other purposes (Tv, Movies, Gaming) and also you use PC’s for other things (Work, Homework, Uni) so let’s not get gritty with this one.

I don't really like PS3 By the way.

Ok, so try not to include personal opinion, but you may include personal experience  except thats all you did Right back at you

[Espadon]

$2600? Dude, you can DIY your own super rig for less. Then again it's Australia, you don't know what can happen in the land where toilet water flushes down the wrong way.

Halo 1/2/3 are all shallow games, and that's coming from me.

[tehsnipah]

But the thing I'm right now thinking is that if Wii Zapper gets evolved, it might have a real FPS gaming style. And I mean like a real realastic gun holding action!! The lazer will move/turn the screen around, and somehow with Balance Pad (or maybe some other invention), you can move around the guy!!

I'm really hoping to have the Wii as one of the greatest FPS experience soon.

[Psycho]

Many a PC gamer hate Halo 3. It’s because it’s the best game in the world, and PC gamers don’t get it

A pretty moronic statement. You seem to judge its value and quality from the number of copies it sold.

[Gnoblar]

Many a PC gamer hate Halo 3. It’s because it’s the best game in the world, and PC gamers don’t get it

A pretty moronic statement. You seem to judge its value and quality from the number of copies it sold.

Yeah, that's exactly what I do, and it has sold the most, therefore making it the MOST SUCCESSFUL, not the best, I take that back. It's alos a console game, just to emphasise that. Very Moronic. I also play it quite a bit, but not as much a Bad Company, here: My Halo 3 Stats. I'm not that good, but hey, If that helps in anyway.

It was probably a bad idea putting this topic in a SOLDAT forum that is indeed a PC game. Oh well.

$2600? Dude, you can DIY your own super rig for less. Then again it's Australia, you don't know what can happen in the land where toilet water flushes down the wrong way.

Halo 1/2/3 are all shallow games, and that's coming from me.

And you are...? A person on the other side of the world who just insulted my country on a weird rumor that proves that he hasn't been to Australia, therefore making him look like an idiot because he thinks his country it better. Therefore, coming from you, your opinion no longer has recognition in my eyes, therefore rendering your input useless.

I won't get into an arguement as that is really pointless, especially with people who say "That's coming from me" as if they have some form of authority.

And yes I know you're making the Halo mod, but then that makes you a

shallow

Modder.

[Kerrazyeye]

Huh...well its pretty darn clear to me.
PC = Soldat
Console = Nintendogs

Nah seriously though, cant wait for the upcoming Ghost Recon, HAWX, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Guild Wars 2, etc. PC games always seem a heck of alot funner, more content, replayability, modding..

But the thing I'm right now thinking is that if Wii Zapper gets evolved, it might have a real FPS gaming style. And I mean like a real realastic gun holding action!! The lazer will move/turn the screen around, and somehow with Balance Pad (or maybe some other invention), you can move around the guy!!

I'm really hoping to have the Wii as one of the greatest FPS experience soon.

Yeahah, dressing up your Mii in battledress, running around with a M249. Amazing GFX...

[Gnoblar]

I don't think this guy has heard of the company, Valve.
The online and gameplay of their games are amazing.

The Valve Engine is poor, the games are fun though, I love Left 4 Dead, not so keen on Counter-Strike.

Abd look, for christs sake, I LIKE PC's, I just have a 360 and I find gaming on it far easier. Though I don't have a gaming PC either, I am going to upgrade to a 768MB Nvidia card soonish.

Can we not make this a "Flame Gnoblar" thread. If you like PC's better, that's fine, but don't take it out on me because I like my 360 better.

I edited the Pro's a bit for PC's by the way.

Also, If I'm wrong, please tell me kindly, not in an angry way, because it's kind of creepy.

[N. Escalona]

No need to be oversensitive about the Australia thing, I doubt Espadon was being serious.