Author Topic: Sin Bin (Read 3332 times)

LtKillroy · « **on:** February 04, 2009, 08:16:50 pm »

Have we stopped using the sin bin? It seems like quite a few people have been temp banned, muted, or banned and nothing has been posted in it for awhile. I've always like the thing; we should use it more. Not on me

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2009, 08:18:46 pm »

Yeah, I was just talking to jrgp about this earlier. Admins need to start using the sin bin every time someone is banned or whatever.

Blue-ninja · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2009, 08:29:30 pm »

The lack of sin bin updates coincides quite nicely with both chakra and demonic's apparent inactivity.

LtKillroy · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2009, 10:09:23 pm »

Honestly I think Sin Bin should be mandatory because it makes the admins take responsibility; if the admin can't take everyone knowing who was banned and why which admin that person doesn't deserve to be banned.

The Geologist · « **Reply #4 on:** February 04, 2009, 11:31:58 pm »

While I agree with your first post, I highly disagree with part of the second.

For example, I just got done flipping back through pages of ban log (up 'til Oct 17th - the last active Sin Bin post. Just happens to be mine.

), and the majority of bans are random ip addresses without any member name attached. Three users have been unbanned since then, a handful of others were spam bots/horrible spammers, or posted extremely disturbing content and thus get insta ban regardless of whether or not it was reported. One requested to be banned and even made a topic about it.

Miles Moses/Captain Ben was muted (after evading a previous ban for spam) for posting a picture of a fat nude women eating a horrible piece of cake. Made a new name and got banned as a result of evading the system.

That about sums up every ban that has taken place since the last posts. The vast majority are people whom no one on the forums ever knew about, mainly because filters are set up to take care of interweb spam of that sort.

Other admins/mods feel free to correct me on this. Also, should there be any bans in the future, your point is noted.

scarface09 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2009, 05:37:14 am »

Didn't that HARDCORE PORNOGRAPHY guy get banned...I was wondering why it wasn't updated. Apparently I wasn't hardcore enough, although he was so hardcore he got himself banned

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jrgp · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2009, 07:10:27 am »

Quote from: scarface09 on February 05, 2009, 05:37:14 am

Didn't that HARDCORE PORNOGRAPHY guy get banned...I was wondering why it wasn't updated. Apparently I wasn't hardcore enough, although he was so hardcore he got himself banned !

That guy was Captain Ben, and afaik he did get banned.

LtKillroy · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2009, 09:51:17 pm »

Yeah, I get not telling us about random spambots and stuff, but I was mostly talking about the whole debacle with ben where it was fairly unknown for awhile who did what to him and when. Which I think shouldn't happen. Plus the Sin Bin was interesting...

The Geologist · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2009, 10:06:11 pm »

Well, the Sin Bin isn't there for amusement.

No one gets banned without due reason. A brief search of his posts would make it clear enough he was spamming like it was going out of style.

Just curious - were you honestly bothered by the lack of a post in the Sin Bin, or did you just regret the fact you couldn't read up on some potentially juicy gossip? While I agree posts should be made in there for bans, the more you respond about it the more I wonder.

GSx_Major · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2009, 10:16:30 pm »

Quote from: The Geologist on February 05, 2009, 10:06:11 pm

No one gets banned without due reason.

I know a guy whos post was edited just so he could be banned.

The reason? Gram didn't like him.

Very responsible of him.

LtKillroy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2009, 10:21:10 pm »

Both. It wasn't for the gossip; many of the posts were pretty funny. There were a few reasons I started this:, there was no reason to not post in it, some of them were funny, I didn't always know people were actually banned until a few days later, I thought if people didn't post in it we might as well delete it, its good to make a common place for that if you were gone for a few days, and like I said I think people should have to take responsibility for banning. The idea wasn't gossip, the thought never crossed my mind. Some posts were admittably funny, however. Also, it was put there for a reason, we might as well use it.

Blue-ninja · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2009, 10:26:08 pm »

For all I know, people that have been muted should be counted as major updates and be included in the sin bin, for one, they have sinned, and they can post in the forums in the same way they have been banned.

*can't

The Geologist · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2009, 11:16:41 pm »

Quote from: GSx_Major on February 05, 2009, 10:16:30 pm

Quote from: The Geologist on February 05, 2009, 10:06:11 pm
No one gets banned without due reason.
I know a guy whos post was edited just so he could be banned.

The reason? Gram didn't like him.

Very responsible of him.

And Gram was removed from moderation. Moot point, good day.

Quote from: LtKillroy on February 05, 2009, 10:21:10 pm

Both. It wasn't for the gossip; many of the posts were pretty funny. There were a few reasons I started this:, there was no reason to not post in it, some of them were funny, I didn't always know people were actually banned until a few days later, I thought if people didn't post in it we might as well delete it, its good to make a common place for that if you were gone for a few days, and like I said I think people should have to take responsibility for banning. The idea wasn't gossip, the thought never crossed my mind. Some posts were admittably funny, however. Also, it was put there for a reason, we might as well use it.

Gossip, funny...whatever - semantics, really, and almost one in the same in terms of what I'm getting at. Point is, it's not meant for amusement purposes. If people writing in it care to throw their own twist in, that's fine. But don't expect amusing posts to get cranked out in there.

As for responsibility, in banning someone there's a description available to admins describing the nature of the ban. People who ban take the responsibility to state a reason so others (i.e. admins/mods) can reference it and know why. That's how I figured out who did what after going back through the ban log 'til October of last year. In short, it's not as though no one is keeping a record of what happens - you just didn't see the minute amount of bans that weren't spam, etc. related.

No offense, but it's kinda hard to see what you're getting at with a few points in your post contradicting each other. Hope I addressed things to your liking, though.

If it's just bans and mutings going in there, then I'm not opposed. As I and others have said, any future bans will get stuffed in there. But in all honesty, it's been pretty slow in the ban hammer department since October.

GSx_Major · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:55:31 am »

Quote from: The Geologist on February 05, 2009, 11:16:41 pm

And Gram was removed from moderation. Moot point, good day.

Sorry, wasn't aware. When did this happen?

echo_trail · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:47:03 am »

What has it been, a year and a half? 2 maybe?

jrgp · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2009, 09:18:05 am »

Quote from: echo_trail on February 06, 2009, 04:47:03 am

What has it been, a year and a half? 2 maybe?

I could've sworn it was longer. Maybe like 3 years.

echo_trail · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:58:10 am »

Really? Huh.. Time flies.

PANZERCATWAGON · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2009, 01:51:51 pm »

i never read the sin bin. never have done, never will do. i dont see the point of it. so i would agree that using it is pointless

GSx_Major · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2009, 08:36:23 pm »

Quote from: echo_trail on February 06, 2009, 04:47:03 am

What has it been, a year and a half? 2 maybe?

He says the post said "edited by â€ " and was last year?

The Geologist · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2009, 08:46:46 pm »

Who is he? I could give you an answer quickly.

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Author Topic: Sin Bin (Read 3332 times)