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Offline Headstriker

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Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« on: February 05, 2009, 04:51:17 am »
I thought about a funny thing in soldat, the "crouch floating", every soldat veteran knows about this "feature". I read that people get kicked for it, it only happens on accident somehow, but when it happens, hands down, then it's great fun.

Why not making an addon for soldat which is a parcour game, maybe no weapons at all. Goal of the mod is that you have a permanent crouch float effect, it's acceleration and physics behaviour, a 1:1 copy of the rare effect.

You float through specially designed parcour maps, where you have a higher amound of jet fuel. You have to use the crouch float physics to get through the map, with out colliding with any obstacle the map editors would place there for the "floating soldat", because it would slow him down and someone will outrun him. This mod would give soldat a racing-game-addon, a soldat trackmania ;) this idea came up when i triggered the floating"bug" when i was playing.

I know it sounds crazy, but when i think about it, it would be awesome and would be a nice tribute to this feature, instead of just deleting it due patches. I hope the community and hopefully Michal Marcinkowski himself reads this, i would like to know if this is possible with editing of the soldat source code and how you like this idea ;)

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 05:27:58 am »
Sounds alright actually. Do you mean your like stablised as couch with some sort of script right. Then you have to go through obstacles using your jet, slowing it down in some situations and trying to manouvere yourself through different pathways etc? A bit like climbing? Crouch Climbing shall be the name! Hmmm, it does sound creative but will people want to make and script it is the question.
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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 06:17:33 am »
If it's the Parkour element you want implemented in soldat, the regular climbing maps are really more the stuff. I'm not much for this idea, basically because I don't like anything outside of normal killing within soldat, like dodgeball or climbing. But hey, if you guys think it could be fun and wanna spent time doing this, then I won't hold you back.

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 06:28:20 am »
@scarface
Yes you have a permanent crouchfloat effect on you, excactly like the float effect in the game. You get rewarded with additional acceleration if you don't hit obstacles, so skilled floaters would reach a very high speed, but will have a hard time to maneuver at this high speed. If you hit an obstacle, your acceleration will reset to zero. You can only gain acceleration while you are airbourne. But every aspect could be modified, toggleable float or weapon usage, special pickups during the track(instant break, boost,...) or storeable usable pickups, like the pickups in mario kart. and so on.. if you like the idea give some input, i'm curious about your responses :)

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Yes everyone his own, i just wanted to toss this idea onto the forums. Personally i don't have any programming skill, so first of all i want to know from as many people as possible what they think about it ;)


I don't know how active the soldat community is and if Michal himself reads those forums and would give a statement, if this is possible or not.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 06:31:55 am by Headstriker »

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 10:20:32 am »
Like the idea, pretty much like the run servers, but with the tribute to one of the most known bugs, pretty cool :P

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2009, 02:34:41 pm »
Only found this bug the other day, I thought it was just me lol- it RULES.  I have been trying to replicate it since to no avail...

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 04:19:02 pm »
it only happens on accident somehow,
It happens when you roll while reloading (sometimes)
Any kind of roll will do it, front roll will make you go to the cursor and back roll/flip will make you go away from the cursor.
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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 04:28:31 pm »
This actually sounds pretty cool.
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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 04:35:14 pm »
It happens when you roll or make a backflip when reloading your weapon. Reloading stops always at the same spot, near 1/4 of the bar.

EE: Happens when the reload is @ 18%
EEE: I noticed the amount is different for other weapons. 4% for steyr, 18% for mp5...........
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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 08:14:49 pm »
Also, some specific reloadtime values seem to promote crouchbug more. I remember having the minimi bugged at 195 ticks; I'm not sure though if preceding values also would play a role in this.
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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 10:53:58 pm »
If you cannot conjure the bug at will, I highly doubt that the float game is gonna float.
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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2009, 02:22:53 am »
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=27312.0
^ Same idea. So I'm going to support this 100%, one way or another.

Actually it is possible to conjure the bug at will, by modifying the weapon stats itself. Whenever you try to roll with these modified guns, you'd auto-crouchbug. Certain stats in the weapons will cause you to have this bug.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 02:25:46 am by STM1993 »

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2009, 07:58:28 pm »
I can't see this working, you'd just end up with people cannonballing, supermanning, kickjumping and backflipping much faster than you could go with the crouchbug.
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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2009, 08:08:48 pm »
I can't see this working, you'd just end up with people cannonballing, supermanning, kickjumping and backflipping much faster than you could go with the crouchbug.
Try to backflip with that modified weapon and you'd enter crouchbug.

It also depends on the map. Surely, maps built for crouchbug racing would disallow the normal way of movement to move effectively, and should have limited jets so as to prevent superman and to really test your skill in flying upwards in crouchbug state.

Supermanning is actually arguably slower than crouchbug. You need to constantly jet when you superman. Crouchbug? You don't need to do that. All you need to do is just point in the right direction and you'd move accordingly - the jets just allow you to fly up, and you'd naturally be moving diagonally like a superman very quickly. If you can control this right and NOT hit the ground, being in crouchbug is actually very fast.

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 06:41:09 am »
STM1993 nice to see that someone else had this crazy idea too, tried the search function but didn't find your thread somehow. I'll try that out with the modified weapon, sounds interesting. I don't know about it, but can you host a server with modified weapon settings? If yes i would love to join one of yourcrouch floating arenas ;)

While racing you only use the crouchfloating and only this no other tricks, the goal is to float through a map with obstacles. Everyone holds a black flag at start and needs to touch to the white flag at the finishline. This way i would design it, if this would be possible to code.

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2009, 07:41:47 am »
Add a poll.
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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2009, 08:15:45 am »
It's not going to happen. Just mod your weapons and you're done with it. Poll is useless since this wouldn't fit the real soldat.

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Re: Crouch Float Arena - the Soldat Trackmania
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2009, 02:46:22 am »
Well, you don't suggest it as an official game mode*, so there is nothing MM has to do with this idea (except not deleting crouchbug). It's up to you to create some maps and make servers with this mode.

*that's wise, because there is a consensus in community not to make things like climbing, duckhunt or this crouchbug racing into official game modes