FlameThrower

[DarkCrusade]

Hi, since most things posted in this subforum would change gameplay dramatically I thought of something which wouldn´t do so: The flamethrower, a special weapon killing almost everything burnable, but it has a real misadvantage, and that is killing other players. Players with a ping which is higher or lower than yours (20+/-) arent hitten by flames and wont die, even if you would shoot him half an hour, you wont kill him, but he you! So flamer seems at the moment to have just misadvantages playing online, that´s why it is disabled on most servers, and I think that would be fixable.

What do you think?

[The Geologist]

So...what's the improvement?

[STM1993]

Sounds more like a question asking us whether this problem can be fixed or not rather than a suggestion.

Let's ask the developers whether this problem related to netcode can be fixed, then this question would be answered.

[DarkCrusade]

So...what's the improvement?

Flamer will be playable online, and not so useless like now. In addition every bugfix is an ostentation of Michal cares for the gameplay / for the community (I havent seen him yet ... anywhere)

[~Niko~]

who plays on servers with bonus on nowadays? I never take it, it's useless. And in fact, you CAN kill anyone who DOESN'T MOVES. Try it.

[DarkCrusade]

I want to see the player not moving and eating my barret Btw: EliteZombie, Elite Snipe&Slice, Elite Saw&Law for example do have bonus enabled

[STM1993]

I don't find the Flamer useful anyway, except in Zombie-hunting. It's range limits it too greatly and it tends to lag. Plus, it takes a while for the damage to register and kill. Still, I'd support the Flamer being fixed, though I consider it of secondary priority.

Currently, the best thing to implement for the Flamer is to be able to throw away the Flamer ONLINE, or have an option to make the Flamer disappear after 10 seconds and revert back to your previous weapons (like in older versions). Besides, the only real reason why we pick up Flame Gods is just to make ourselves invulnerable for 10 seconds. We don't want the Flamer itself.

[DarkCrusade]

That´s mostly correct, but we are almost pros around here, but the noobs love playing flamer because it has special animation and pwnagerate I think that is one good reason for fixing it beside the others

[croat1gamer]

is it possible to add for the flamer so it shoots also an m2 bullet (hidden behind the fire and damage and range greatly reduced) so it makes damage at direct hits so it gains some strength and usefulness

[DarkCrusade]

But it wont flame around like normally, you get hit and burn to death (except you were at 150hp and got 1 hit)

[KYnetiK]

The flamer is only practically used to refill your health and give you the invulnerablity to re-poise yourself, at the cost of a weapon. The fact that it may inflict some serious damage along the way is only a secondary benefit.

[scarface09]

Yeah, I would like the flamethrower also to be fixed too. It's just too weak in power and takes too long to kill someone. It can be also easy for the opponent to get away because the flamethrower's shooting distance is very very limited which makes it even harder to kill if they're at a faster speed.I'd like it to be fixed and more deadlier. F12.

[tehsnipah]

Flamer can be amazing and bad:

Pro: Flamers can wear your enemy about half of their life if they're on fire, so you can simply "tag" them.
      It has no bink, so you can spray.
       Extremely fast reload, so it's convenient.

Con: It doesn't go through players.
       And what darkcrusade said.

[STM1993]

      It has no bink, so you can spray.

You can't. It's range is WAAAY too short.

[excruciator]

I still don't understand how can the flames not reg

Its not like minigun bullets where they are too fast and there is too many.

[Xxypher]

Extremely bad laggers can eat almost anything.

[tehsnipah]

      It has no bink, so you can spray.

You can't. It's range is WAAAY too short.

Ehh, it's about a little shorter than the knife... But it's useable.

[KYnetiK]

Instead of making each particle 'bounce' off polys, make them 'stick' until the particle dies off. This way you can set an area on fire, inflicting damage on other person touching the poly. Perhaps then, when the fire particles motion becomes static,  some better reg would occur ?

[scarface09]

i rekon when it bounces off polus it should burn yourself...like if you flame below you, it rebounds and flames yourself, that should still burn you lol..

[DarkCrusade]

That is because of all this jackasses around there I really think Dont know, but what would you think if you run into a tunnel while you are spraying with the flamer and you burn yourself?

BURN