Author Topic: Soldat vs ZP2K9 (Read 14100 times)

JFizzle · « **on:** March 06, 2009, 05:24:23 pm »

So who's played ZP2K9? It's quite similar to Soldat, except better. Though it's only on Xbox Community Games, no PC version. It was made by James Silva, the dude who's making Dishwasher: Dead Samurai.

What do you think?

-Major- · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2009, 06:08:53 pm »

look shitty :|

Kagesha · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2009, 06:10:13 pm »

Quote from: JFizzle on March 06, 2009, 05:24:23 pm

Though it's only on Xbox Community Games, no PC version.

Well there's your problem.

Shoozza · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2009, 06:20:04 pm »

I like soldat more because it has a better feeling and look. Don't like the movement in the game, the centered cam lets the game look numb.
The game may suit better for kids it not that violent like soldat (no heads flying around - or did i miss something

) its somehow like teewars from the graphic style.

~Niko~ · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2009, 07:18:37 pm »

that crap is better than soldat? well, it's your opinion...

AntiHero · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2009, 07:48:17 pm »

Pshh! Soldat Is My Fav still also the other game looks shty

LtKillroy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2009, 08:02:55 pm »

Quote from: Kagesha on March 06, 2009, 06:10:13 pm

Quote from: JFizzle on March 06, 2009, 05:24:23 pm
Though it's only on Xbox Community Games, no PC version.

Well there's your problem.

STM1993 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2009, 09:06:45 pm »

That game's much slower, aiming looks pretty limited, I don't like its graphics, far less violent as well. Seems like the typical "new game" to me - has newer graphics but with crappy substance.

Nothing like Soldat.

Fireman · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2009, 10:23:13 pm »

Not even close to soldat LOL

Slow gameplay as well. It's not better, it's crap.

Xxypher · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2009, 11:07:33 pm »

Graphics don't make a game. Gameplay does.

Grimbad · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2009, 11:10:21 pm »

Quote from: JFizzle on March 06, 2009, 05:24:23 pm

So who's played ZP2K9? It's quite similar to Soldat, except better. Though it's only on Xbox Community Games, no PC version. It was made by James Silva, the dude who's making Dishwasher: Dead Samurai.

What do you think?

I think your screen name is eerily similar to the moniker of my hometown's local rapper* (J Fizz).
As to this game*, from the video it looks like soldat but boring and annoying style-wise in visuals, audio, and gameplay.
Also, posts like this on forums like this sure seem like biting the hand that feeds...

*Terms used loosely.

Sir Jeremy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2009, 11:22:52 pm »

Looool, how is that at all familiar to soldat? I don't even see no jets, no nade kits, no CTF. It looks nothing like Soldat in my opinion. Im'a stick to soldat for now.

STM1993 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2009, 11:58:58 pm »

Quote from: Sir Jeremy on March 06, 2009, 11:22:52 pm

Looool, how is that at all familiar to soldat? I don't even see no jets, no nade kits, no CTF. It looks nothing like Soldat in my opinion. Im'a stick to soldat for now.

The jets is that "bee suit" thingy in the video.

Whatever it is, that game can't be compared to Soldat - Soldat is way superior.

JFizzle · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:57:22 am »

Has anyone actually played it? Any of you have an xbox?

Quote from: Sir Jeremy on March 06, 2009, 11:22:52 pm

Looool, how is that at all familiar to soldat? I don't even see no jets, no nade kits, no CTF.

Yeah it has the bee suit, and 6 types of grenades, and CTF. And KOTH. I don't know another game out there that's more similar to Soldat than this game.

But, I really shouldn't be saying which one is better, because I've only played a handful of rounds on both games. But from what I've played, ZP2k9 is more fun. Maybe that just means it's more accessible though.

Sir Jeremy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:59:16 am »

Sorry about that. I didn't get to finish watching the whole video.

Mind if I ask what KOTH is?

And no, I don't have an XBOX, just a PS2.

JFizzle · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2009, 01:01:36 am »

King of the hill.

croat1gamer · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2009, 07:42:56 am »

well, koth would be an interesting addon to soldat

graphics are horrible (when going soldat vs *that*)

its much, much, MUCH slower

dam, it seems like there are soldat wannabes on the consoles

seems like they are desperate to get soldat on them, even if its just a crappy copy of it

*sniff*
this thought made my day lucky

scarface09 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2009, 08:36:39 am »

Soldat beats this shit seriously...wth how can you compare that game with Soldat. Really...it's out of soldat's league.

Lord Frunkamunch · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2009, 09:37:28 am »

Quote from: JFizzle on March 07, 2009, 12:57:22 am

But, I really shouldn't be saying which one is better, because I've only played a handful of rounds on both games. But from what I've played, ZP2k9 is more fun. Maybe that just means it's more accessible though.

That's probably it. Soldat's controls take a bit of getting used to, and that game looks more pick-up-and-play. Just judging from the video I don't think there's any contest-soldat blows it out of the water in my opinion.

tehsnipah · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2009, 10:33:58 am »

I am not going to pay for shitty game. That's the final for me.

Furai · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2009, 01:16:17 pm »

Quote from: JFizzle on March 07, 2009, 12:57:22 am

Any of you have an xbox?

Yeah, I have xBox and I wish there was Soldat platform for it (would be funny). Even casted vote for it in forums poll.

Quote from: JFizzle on March 07, 2009, 12:57:22 am

Has anyone actually played it?

Nope, I haven't played it.

Quote from: JFizzle on March 06, 2009, 05:24:23 pm

What do you think?

I think the only advantage of this game over soldat is its GUI. Gameplay here is much more slower, at least it looks so.
Furthermore, what I don't like about this game is that you have to pick up your weapons. It's like some single player 2D shooter.

Next disadventage is people don't like playing games with joypads (I don't see anything wrong about that, have played many games using pad. Probably I'm just used to it.)

All in all, Soldat > ZP2K9.

Bjarne Betjent · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2009, 03:25:29 pm »

Your walking all the time = Ur opponents will face you from the same hight = no aim skills required = Soldat is better.

zyxstand · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2009, 03:43:16 pm »

This should be blocked for heresy!

croat1gamer · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2009, 04:18:44 pm »

anyone realized that the thing when he goes up is actually pretty same as the prince of perisa climbing?

Kerrazyeye · « **Reply #24 on:** March 07, 2009, 07:06:46 pm »

It looks like Super Mario with guns...

They gotta make a game thats like both Soldat and N..... SNoldat....

Luke Strife · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2009, 07:53:21 pm »

Quote from: Kerrazyeye on March 07, 2009, 07:06:46 pm

They gotta make a game thats like both Soldat and N..... SNoldat....

Now that I would like to see.

scarface09 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2009, 08:32:08 pm »

I bet that game gets like 50 ppl online...not even lol

JFizzle · « **Reply #27 on:** March 08, 2009, 05:33:29 am »

I'm curious to see the opinion of someone who's put in an adequate amount of playtime into both games, just to see a real compare and contrast.

Oh, and James Silva has responded to this thread. (I don't think he's happy with me

)
Ha, I should make another thread: JAMES SILVA VS. MICHAL MARCINKOWSKI - Who's the better developer?! (surely you guys will give Dishwasher some props, eh?)

Also, here's that video review he put up there which shows some better gameplay footage, directly linked to the ZP segment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp5abt1RU1c#t=2m19s (it's a lot better than that video I linked to in my original post, should give you a better impression of the game)

HOLLA!

SpiltCoffee · « **Reply #28 on:** March 08, 2009, 06:38:22 am »

My problem with it is that it's on Xbox. Bleh.

Dusty · « **Reply #29 on:** March 08, 2009, 08:36:49 am »

It's funny how he picked only the comments which didn't include any real comments about the game, except for 'Your walking all the time...'.

I can't deny that Soldat looks a bit crappy if you take a look at a video where someone is playing for the first time. You can't really say it's gameplay is super fast'n flowing, but that's what Soldat becomes when you've got used to it and learned to play even somehow.

Judging by the two videos (yes I haven't even touched the real game) this ZPKFJ#)82 game cannot achieve the same speed and flow as Soldat.

boer · « **Reply #30 on:** March 08, 2009, 03:43:00 pm »

This actually compares better to ol' liero. ~~But gfx wise I think its fine~~, actually after watching the youtube vid it looks really nice.

The Geologist · « **Reply #31 on:** March 08, 2009, 06:19:35 pm »

Quote

Anyway, I’m off to go post this in that thread and continue the war! MUWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Planning on making this topic fodder for some fanboys, JFizzle? Let's keep that whole "war" notion on hold, if one could even call it that.

When someone rolls along who's actually tried it, I'm sure they'll post. But from what I've read so far, it doesn't look like many people are willing to shell out anything for a game of that caliber.

Twistkill · « **Reply #32 on:** March 08, 2009, 06:20:44 pm »

Quote from: Kerrazyeye on March 07, 2009, 07:06:46 pm

They gotta make a game thats like both Soldat and N..... SNoldat....

Speaking of that...

The developers of N, who are Mare and Raigan of Metanet Software, credit Soldat for some of the sound effects used in their game.

SpiltCoffee · « **Reply #33 on:** March 08, 2009, 08:02:05 pm »

They even used a map, ctf_Death, for one of the levels.

Fujifabric · « **Reply #34 on:** March 08, 2009, 09:13:16 pm »

For ZP2K9 It's hard to say since the gameplay is key... i would like to see more, specially the aiming part. About Dishwasher: Dead Samurai, i really hope to see something like that in one of the next Michal's game!

CheeSeMan. · « **Reply #35 on:** March 08, 2009, 09:21:36 pm »

lol what a nub on his blog hahahahahah he posted some ridiculous youtube thing of soldat... watch soldat veterans! Game looks kind of slow...

amb2010 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 08, 2009, 09:57:56 pm »

Well, I think that game is nothing even close to Soldat, seems to be more like tee-wars than soldat. The gameplay looks a lot slower and I'm not a big fan of how the gameplay looks(I do not own a 360 so I can't comment on how it actually plays). Also I find it funny how he compared his game to a crappy video of Soldat after just stating that it was wrong to use a crappy video of ZP2K9 to compare with Soldat....I doubt any console based 2D shooter game with ever be better than Soldat, it will always lack the customization Soldat has.

L[0ne]R · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2009, 10:22:27 pm »

From what I can see on the vid, the game's nice both visually and in terms of gameplay, has some nice features and a good potential of becoming very popular among other XBox games.
Comparing to soldat though, it's just.. different. Gameplay seems more simple, just running around and shooting enemies, while Soldat is a bit more tactical and lot less forgiving to unexperienced players.
I'd say Soldat is for hardcore gamers who expect more depth from gameplay, while ZP2K9 is more suitable for people who just want to relax and have fun. Though again, i cant really judge since i haven't played ZP2K9..

But of course, saying that ZP2K9 game's better than Soldat on SOLDAT forums wasn't a good idea..
because people here are not the type that ZP2K9 was made for.

James Silva... after reading your post, all I can say is.. take it easy. ;|

croat1gamer · « **Reply #38 on:** March 09, 2009, 09:33:34 am »

well, noone can judge the game since it isnt done yet

Furai · « **Reply #39 on:** March 09, 2009, 09:55:36 am »

What's like this game mentioned? I mean here this one called "N".

Illuminatus · « **Reply #40 on:** March 12, 2009, 08:33:50 pm »

ZP2K9:
+ particle effects
+ moving particles
+ maybe some weapons
- rest is shit in comparison to soldat

adam01526 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 21, 2009, 04:20:02 pm »

Quote from: Kagesha on March 06, 2009, 06:10:13 pm

Quote from: JFizzle on March 06, 2009, 05:24:23 pm
Though it's only on Xbox Community Games, no PC version.

Well there's your problem.

i do not have an xbox so this is a definate no because you cannot really compare a game on the xbox to a game on the computer because the controls are different it would be like comparing crisis with halo 3.

Quote from: Sir Jeremy on March 06, 2009, 11:22:52 pm

Looool, how is that at all familiar to soldat? I don't even see no jets, no nade kits, no CTF. It looks nothing like Soldat in my opinion. Im'a stick to soldat for now.

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Author Topic: Soldat vs ZP2K9 (Read 14100 times)