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Offline koolaidman

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May I have some help with aiming?
« on: March 20, 2009, 06:04:23 pm »
Hi, I'm a new player to soldat, and off the bat, let me say that this game has me addicted. Although, I find sometimes this game is too hard for me.

My favorite weapon is a Barrett, I love it's one hit kill and sniping capabilities, but I find that it's so hard aiming with that weapon. Sometimes it's the "bink", but mostly I find that I always aim just beside the other players, I find this very annoying.

So what I'm trying to say is, how can I practice and get better with this weapon? I have my mouse sensitivity at 30% and I find that I still often over aim. Is there any way I can train with the Barrett? Thank you for your time, and if you guys wouldn't mind helping me, I'd appreciate it a lot.

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 06:23:58 pm »
When firing in midair and moving, simply let go of all movement keys including jets, and fire. If you can, go prone too. This gets rid of the movebink.

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2009, 06:34:29 pm »
Yeah I prone pretty much every time I fire my barret, and it seems to help.  Also, I have 50 sensitivity and that seems to be just right.  I guess the best way to get better is to keep practicing against good players.  Sometimes it helps when I auto for a bit, it seems to improve my barret too at times.  Give it a try. ;)

Also barret used to be my favourite weapon also and I wouldn't use anyting else, but now I know that autos are more usefull. ;)
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2009, 06:39:08 pm »
A couple of ways to practice with barret;
1. Go into a TW(TrenchWars) server, usually there is little to no jet-pack allowed on the maps, so the enemy must run straight to you, and hide in bunkers and such. It'll help you get started...
2. If you are very new, make a private game with a bunch of chainsaw zombies and snipe them from different areas of several maps, until your aiming is well enough so you can kill them in midair.
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2009, 06:43:15 pm »
first of all. DO NOT PRONE IN MID AIR. It's stupid and you lose time. It's better to learn where the bullet will go (not a straight line) than having to do that each time you want to shot anyone down.

But yes, it's true that getting almost stopped in mid-air compensating the gravity with the jets and only pressing the fire button is always needed.

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 06:50:06 pm »
Yeah I prone pretty much every time I fire my barret, and it seems to help.  Also, I have 50 sensitivity and that seems to be just right.  I guess the best way to get better is to keep practicing against good players.  Sometimes it helps when I auto for a bit, it seems to improve my barret too at times.  Give it a try. ;)

Also barret used to be my favourite weapon also and I wouldn't use anyting else, but now I know that autos are more usefull. ;)

It depends on your mouse.  I use 200 sensitivity and I love it.  Just use what's right for you.  Pick one, and stick to it.  Never be like "oh I'm aiming bad so I need to change my sensitivity".. that will screw you up.  If you wanna do online practice do teammatch against like 3 'impossible' bots and camp them.  Use your scope.  The thing is, if you miss, then you get binked.  So it trains you to hit every shot you can with your scope.  Oh, and use a pistol if you can't aim that well.
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2009, 10:23:53 pm »
Ducking while on the ground is much faster than prone, and very accurate. Just duck, put your mouse directly on the enemy, (and a little ahead if they're moving fast) fire, and jump before someone throws a grenade at you.
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2009, 10:55:07 pm »
Aaah, a nice one for me.

1)  Try not to prone. It might avoid some shots, but it kills way too much time. You lose the precious 1 second if you prone.

2) Like others say, when in midair, let go of jet button, and movement button, then shoot

3) Lower sensitivity isn't that great for snipers. You need a quick shot, because if you miss, you either have to run away, or think of something else quick.

3) Higher sensitivity is usually recommended in my opinion, because you can aim faster even when scoping, so you don't lose those precious times.

4) If possible, time your shots well. It takes .5 seconds to fire a shot with Barrett. So it's not as easy to kill other players with it. But use those timings well, and you'll be able to take them down with no trouble. But don't get fooled by their back flip tricks and etc. If they hesitate or stay near by you and don't chase you. Use that opportunity to time the shot and kill him, so he can't bink you first.

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2009, 10:56:23 pm »
I would use whatever weapon your having the hardest time dueling against a barret, and learn when it is hard to kill a barret, then you know how to apply that to your sniping skills.

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2009, 11:17:32 pm »
Barrett M82A1 notes:
  • Barrett can kill in one hit when hit anywhere as long as the user does not wear a bulletproof vest.
  • The Barrett's bullet is not 100% straight, it will curve a bit over long distances.
  • Bullets take time to travel, so don't expect that where you aim is where you'd hit instantly.
  • The Barrett has high movementacc, high enough to slightly affect accuracy even when in mid-air (but won't affect if you are crouched/prone/standing still ON THE GROUND.
  • It takes 25 ticks (almost half a second) to startup and fire a Barrett.
  • Barrett has a scope usable when crouched or proned. When proned, your scope can magnify slightly further.
  • Unlike the M79, delay between shots is determined by fireinterval, so performing backflips etc won't affect the delay between shots. This only applies before you run out of ammo.
  • The Barrett has high bink - if you get shot you'd go inaccurate.
  • If you have scoped and fire, your view will follow the bullet, allowing you to scout the location a bit better as well. If you wish to cancel out of this view, simply move.
  • Bullets can ricochet. If you can't aim directly, aim at a wall at a certain angle, and it would reflect away and may hit your opponent.

Using a Barrett M82A1:
  • Although the movementacc is very high, always try to stop moving actively before shooting since it is far more accurate than if you did not let go at all. If possible, stay on the ground, don't move too much.
  • Never try to prone before you shoot if you are moving or in mid-air. It wastes time (easily 1 second) and will NOT improve your accuracy. You can argue that you have the scope, but trust me on the fact that you have no time to use the scope in mid-air. Plus, although you may avoid a couple of shots, your enemy is likely to adjust their aim quickly, so that prone move is more of a quick maneuver against other 1-hitters.
  • When you are in position (on the ground), it is usually best to be crouched. This generally makes you more difficult to hit, yet able to move fast when necessary and have a basic scoping range.
  • Only go prone if you are very sure of your position or you need to make an extremely long-ranged shot. Proning would disable your movement greatly, so you'd be an easy target if you are detected.
  • You are a sniper - you're supposed to take out enemies BEFORE they even realize you're there. So use your scope when you are in position. Never miss. Make use of the scenery to hide yourself if you must - it doesn't matter if you're "camping" because that's what a sniper's supposed to do.
  • Avoid heated battles, because not only will you be killed easily, but you will be so heavily binked that you cannot retaliate.
  • A good sniper would avoid camping in the same spot twice, even if it is a very good sniping spot, this is because your enemy would know where you are and would be likely to devise ways to counter you.
  • When aiming your Barrett, remember that wherever you hit = kill (unless they are wearing bulletproof vest, where you'd NEVER get a 1-hit kill if they have maximum health and vest). It is highly recommended that you aim for the chest. The head is too small and the legs, although wide, may be easily missed if the enemy were to go prone in mid-air. Therefore, aim the chest.
  • REMEMBER! You have 10 bullets before you need to reload, and reloading takes extremely long! Watch your ammo very closely.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2009, 11:33:58 pm by STM1993 »

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2009, 11:33:34 pm »
-If they flip a lot, wait till they're at the peak of their jump, then fire. They'll have a split second of hanging vulnerably in the air, and that's when you nail them.
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2009, 11:56:18 pm »
-If they flip a lot, wait till they're at the peak of their jump, then fire. They'll have a split second of hanging vulnerably in the air, and that's when you nail them.
Nice, a great tip if you're a beginner.

As you play longer, you'll get used to those flips. More efficient shots.
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2009, 02:45:19 am »
iDante's one is classic.  Do it xD
And maybe, learn another gun (I'd say aug if you're used to baz) for reliability.  Baz is often not that good if you're not dead accurate with scope.  Happy soldating!
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2009, 08:27:36 am »
Wanna become a "Barrettard" ?! One simple advice: Practice...practice, PRACTICE!!! If you will obey this one simple rule you'll become master very fast. ;d

EDIT: I use default sensitivity. Sometimes a bit higher. [I've got Razer's Deathadder - It's mouse. (When I'm home of course. Lately I'm at dromitory where comps are "a bit" slow and out of date.)]
« Last Edit: March 21, 2009, 09:47:15 am by Wookash »
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2009, 09:01:32 am »
Don't touch your sens, and play play play.

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2009, 10:36:30 am »
Predict the movement of your target and head you target over him!

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2009, 10:45:19 am »
well i play Barret like 70-80% Barret besides my Deagles and knife training, and i know a couple of "barretards" (i hate that word) with which i play 7 days a week, and when it comes down to it (i know this kinda stuff cause INF=sniper haven) DON'T prone, never, just play 5-6 impossible bots with say, ruger, for about a week till you get used to your mouse settings adapting to the game, then do it with the barret, simply know that if you're binked you're doomed hat's why i don't exactly like camping at any situation, 1-makes you immobile, so basically a sitting duck, 2-has no real "practice" to it, since you shoot out of cover, 3-doesn't help at all in learning how to dodge and further upgrade your over all battling skills...that's why i always move as fast as possible.. if this can't help you i don't know what can, if you want to be a soldat-sniper...
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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2009, 05:09:51 pm »
Also, just to mention, there's nothing wrong in shooting mid air while proning. Also also also bink shots are possible if you know how to ;;; )

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Re: May I have some help with aiming?
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2009, 12:04:38 am »
There's a trick to it?
I'd like to know :P
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