Just an honest question about the Law...

[Murska]

Why not? They're both secondaries.

[-Major-]

Why not? They're both secondaries.

Knife is more offensive, and law more defensive. it's not really that good to compare them.

[Centurion]

Give law range, single shot (then you have to throw it away) and heat seeking missile.

[Furai]

There's old soldat bug wich allows you to fire multiple times. Anyone who knows it, know what I am talking about.

[Dusty]

It doesn't work anymore

[-Major-]

Give law range, single shot (then you have to throw it away) and heat seeking missile.

wouldn't that overpower the nade?

[Baoden]

Not if grenades are heatseeking too.

Oops, looks like someone just fixed balance issues.

[demoniac93]

Heat seeking? No way, that would allow you to kill someone 300 meters away on abel without aiming

[-Major-]

Heat seeking? No way, that would allow you to kill someone 300 meters away on abel without aiming

as far as I know, a grenades explosion is warmer than the human body. who knows?... maybe I'm wrong...

[Centurion]

It's not completely heat seeking. It helps to guide a missile but players can dodge it easily if they do a quick sudden maneuver.

[Clawbug]

Why not? They're both secondaries.

Knife is more offensive, and law more defensive. it's not really that good to compare them.

Defensive play doesn't work in CTF that well.

[-Major-]

Why not? They're both secondaries.

Knife is more offensive, and law more defensive. it's not really that good to compare them.

Defensive play doesn't work in CTF that well.

says a noob -.-. apperently you don't know what is seen as defensive and offensive. you cannot fly around and kill with law. you need to crouch down and fire. THEREFORE Law is more defensive and knife more offensive.

mebe try to figure out who I am before you come with stupid comments?

[Clawbug]

Why not? They're both secondaries.

Knife is more offensive, and law more defensive. it's not really that good to compare them.

Defensive play doesn't work in CTF that well.

says a noob -.-. apperently you don't know what is seen as defensive and offensive. you cannot fly around and kill with law. you need to crouch down and fire. THEREFORE Law is more defensive and knife more offensive.

mebe try to figure out who I am before you come with stupid comments?

Call me a noob all you want, sir. Guess it just proves your arrogance fed by ignorance.

What you just said just proves what I said. In CTF people spend great majority of their time mid-air, hence your "defensive play" doesn't really work. If it did, why on earth would 80 % of secondary kills in SCTFL be made by knife?

Just curious, tell me who you are sir.

[demoniac93]

And just for the sake of logic, what does his knowledge about you have anything to do with the comparison between the knife and the M72 LAW?

[Dusty]

Just curious, tell me who you are sir.

Major aka Maid aka Banana-San aka the one who is banned pretty much everywhere (except here) because he's an idiot.

[-Major-]

Just curious, tell me who you are sir.

Major aka Maid aka Banana-San aka the one who is banned pretty much everywhere (except here) because he's an idiot.

lol aus.gather was actually because I pwned them and then they didn't want to add anymore. and aka ChuChu aka Pyon aka mAjOrS_`NinE` aka Highway aka Hackerii... should I continue?

anyway, Law works well for ctf, just that Knife is easier. If you weren't another 13 year old like all in the soldat community. you would be able to see my quote above where I say Law is defensive and knife offensive.
But ofc you had to try to put it into your own retarded perspective.

if we got 2 knifers and 1 lawer in a team we got a 33% law users and 66% knife users. but that still doesn't work, since Law got 13% of the kills. just because it's not that overused doesn't mean it doesn't work well for ctf. AND, what on earth does that have to do with how one should not compare Knife to Law? Maybe you should learn to not go offtopic all the time, kiddo.

[Clawbug]

Just curious, tell me who you are sir.

Major aka Maid aka Banana-San aka the one who is banned pretty much everywhere (except here) because he's an idiot.

lol aus.gather was actually because I pwned them and then they didn't want to add anymore. and aka ChuChu aka Pyon aka mAjOrS_`NinE` aka Highway aka Hackerii... should I continue?

anyway, Law works well for ctf, just that Knife is easier. If you weren't another 13 year old like all in the soldat community. you would be able to see my quote above where I say Law is defensive and knife offensive.
But ofc you had to try to put it into your own retarded perspective.

if we got 2 knifers and 1 lawer in a team we got a 33% law users and 66% knife users. but that still doesn't work, since Law got 13% of the kills. just because it's not that overused doesn't mean it doesn't work well for ctf. AND, what on earth does that have to do with how one should not compare Knife to Law? Maybe you should learn to not go offtopic all the time, kiddo.

What is your problem really? Personal insults over personal insults towards anyone who does not agree with you.

IIRC you also got banned from soldat.gather and sna.gather aswell, because of the childish attitude you have.

What are you trying to argue against? That 80 % of secondary kills for knife does not mean that LAW is underpowered and would need a buff? Doesn't really matter whether or not one plays offensively or defensively if the weapon doesn't get used. And that's the main issue here, people prefer knife over LAW too much.

[-Major-]

Just curious, tell me who you are sir.

Major aka Maid aka Banana-San aka the one who is banned pretty much everywhere (except here) because he's an idiot.

lol aus.gather was actually because I pwned them and then they didn't want to add anymore. and aka ChuChu aka Pyon aka mAjOrS_`NinE` aka Highway aka Hackerii... should I continue?

anyway, Law works well for ctf, just that Knife is easier. If you weren't another 13 year old like all in the soldat community. you would be able to see my quote above where I say Law is defensive and knife offensive.
But ofc you had to try to put it into your own retarded perspective.

if we got 2 knifers and 1 lawer in a team we got a 33% law users and 66% knife users. but that still doesn't work, since Law got 13% of the kills. just because it's not that overused doesn't mean it doesn't work well for ctf. AND, what on earth does that have to do with how one should not compare Knife to Law? Maybe you should learn to not go offtopic all the time, kiddo.

What is your problem really? Personal insults over personal insults towards anyone who does not agree with you.

IIRC you also got banned from soldat.gather and sna.gather aswell, because of the childish attitude you have.

What are you trying to argue against? That 80 % of secondary kills for knife does not mean that LAW is underpowered and would need a buff? Doesn't really matter whether or not one plays offensively or defensively if the weapon doesn't get used. And that's the main issue here, people prefer knife over LAW too much.

Law is fine. just that Soldat is more offensive doesn't mean you should boost all the defensive weapons.

you should learn to quote~

[Clawbug]

Law is fine. just that Soldat is more offensive doesn't mean you should boost all the defensive weapons.

you should learn to quote~

So in your opinion that the way Soldat is, practically there is no place for LAW? What kind of reasoning is that? If the startup time was removed and knife's delay made a tad longer, I'm sure it would have positive effect on the secondary balance. How would this be a bad thing?

I should learn many things which are out of the context of this thread.

[ElGato]

Why not? They're both secondaries.

Knife is more offensive, and law more defensive. it's not really that good to compare them.

Defensive play doesn't work in CTF that well.

says a noob -.-. apperently you don't know what is seen as defensive and offensive. you cannot fly around and kill with law. you need to crouch down and fire. THEREFORE Law is more defensive and knife more offensive.

mebe try to figure out who I am before you come with stupid comments?

He agrees with you, but states it differently, and you call him a noob?

Balance(look up the definition) should not be discarded because of the way the game is played. If the balance were different and this were a much more defensive game would you simply ignore the knife because that's just how the game goes?