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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2009, 02:58:39 pm »
Just because you are a clone doesn't mean you will solve it the exact same way.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2009, 03:07:49 pm »
For the purposes of the conversation, the clones are all the same, EXACTLY the same.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2009, 04:59:40 pm »
For the purposes of the conversation, the clones are all the same, EXACTLY the same.
Clone might be same, but environment might be different.(one doing puzzle in the park one in a bar)
So I guess they might solve it differently.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2009, 05:12:43 pm »
Just because they are clones does not mean their brains will work the same through the entire puzzle.

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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2009, 05:19:21 pm »
They were brought up exactly the same as well, don't think too much on this though.
to explain this
they are all 100% same clones
their lives are 100% the same NO EXCEPTIONS

if it would be so, and their lives are "cloned" also, they would come to the same answer, although there is always a really REALLY minor possibility that it wouldnt be the same
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2009, 05:48:53 pm »
Just because they are clones does not mean their brains will work the same through the entire puzzle.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2009, 07:16:46 pm »
The words "clone" is just a placeholder word for the fact that they are, for all intents and purposes, the same person. Their minds are identical and will come to the same conclusion, period. The human brain is a machine. Given the exact same situation, there is no reason for it to react differently any given time.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2009, 07:27:39 pm »
The words "clone" is just a placeholder word for the fact that they are, for all intents and purposes, the same person. Their minds are identical and will come to the same conclusion, period. The human brain is a machine. Given the exact same situation, there is no reason for it to react differently any given time.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2009, 10:27:38 am »
I still stand at my opinion as the question giver himself stated only biologically the same, not in terms of experiences and gained knowledge.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2009, 10:41:19 am »
If they are given the exact same time and environment etc, then they will solve in the same way. The slightest difference would make their solving different or only similar.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2009, 10:50:35 am »
But only with the EXACT same experiences, however feelings, emotions, points ofview at the time of a happening can all change those experiences if even just in a slight way. So it would be hard to do, unless as i mentioned it someone would be able to cpoy and paste memory. WITHOUT file loss.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2009, 11:02:39 am »
But only with the EXACT same experiences, however feelings, emotions, points ofview at the time of a happening can all change those experiences if even just in a slight way. So it would be hard to do, unless as i mentioned it someone would be able to cpoy and paste memory. WITHOUT file loss.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2009, 12:16:25 pm »
Thanks for finishing out my post :D
It does, the answer has been found, and it is clear, it can happen but only under VERY highly and locked conditions that are to be given directly into the experiment for it to work.
So i say there is no more to be said.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2009, 11:11:24 pm »
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I meant they are biologically exactly the same. They were brought up exactly the same as well, don't think too much on this though.

Then please tell me, how, at the same time and place these clones are given the same environment and settings to solve this puzzle, as well as living the EXACT same life.

If these are met, then please answer the question of what makes them act any differently then they have in the past?

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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2009, 11:17:05 pm »
Are the clones all made at the same time and kept in the same living conditions?
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2009, 03:37:06 am »
Are the clones all made at the same time and kept in the same living conditions?

Yes. If you've seen "The Island". That's where I got the idea off. They are born as adults and not as children, they are simply an exaclt replica of the orignal host who isn't doing the puzzle.

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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2009, 04:03:24 am »
In practice it isn't possible at all to give the exact same condition, time and environment, hence even if cloned freshly like from The Island, they won't solve the same way.

In theory, then they should work the same way.

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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2009, 05:27:28 am »
In theory, then they should work the same way.

I am assuming everyone is thinking about this IN THEORY.

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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2009, 06:47:36 am »
Because first of all cloning is facing moral issues...
And it's impossible to clone experience.
So it's all theoretical, because these conditions can't be met in practical science.
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Re: 10 Clones Solve A puzzle. (Thought Topic)
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2009, 08:38:15 am »
Let's not ponder on that.