Define "spray"

[Sigglez]

It is effective, for instance a map like division, all routes are based on spray,

* Spraying Nades
* Spraying off screen, while aiming for enemies etc.

Now im thinking like, gathers etc. The first thing you do when you go middle is throwing a nade. And for the top route, spraying with guns.

[demoniac93]

Eh....I'll finish my part of it by just adding:
For me spraying is taking an automatic, fast ones are preferred (Steyr\Minigun\Minimi) and shooting at the direction an important or weakened target went, so off screen...Just to make it easy for some people.

[STM1993]

Unseen - So shooting at a predator is spraying?

I'd say so.  You don't know where exactly they are, you're basically shooting blind apart from maybe a general idea of where they are.

Shooting at a predator is only considered spraying if you can't see them clearly. However, there are cases whereby you can clearly see the predator (who is just transparent, not completely invisible) and never lose sight of him. Then in that case, it won't be spraying, you'd be aiming the same way as you would a non-predator.

P.S. STM1993, being the pro player he is, is quite correct.

Blah =.=

[LtKillroy]

Shooting without aiming. However it is you accomplished that (I voted randomly). I am of the opinion who cares if they spray.

[Chariot]

Even if it's off screen, I don't consider it spray if you are shooting where you saw your enemy run off to. Or in Jeremy's EFC situation on Ash, I wouldn't call that Spray either because you know where they are (generally).

[Sir Jeremy]

So, Chariot what do you consider spray then? 

That's the question of this thread.

[Twistkill]

The only thing I hate is when people who use the Barrett consistently (and little else, or other weapons to lesser degrees of effectiveness) begin to complain about being binked by calling me a sprayer because I'm using an auto while they're on screen. I kinda know where my bullets are going to end up when I'm firing my Minimi at Shadow_Ninja58, who is only ~40 metres away.

Demonic says whining doesn't deal damage. He's right.

Spraying, to me, is firing any weapon off screen in the hopes of hitting an enemy if they're more than 2 screens away. Even if you might have a little idea of where they might be, you're now basing your shots on luck and less skill becomes involved the farther away they get because of this.

[Keldorn]

Oh, and don't take my quote edit thingy personally, just having some fun with ya, like the way you pull apart my sentence word for word and argue every word I use :]

I could have done a lot more but I had a clan war...

Also, in the poll, what's the difference between shooting wildly and randomly?

Also, I guess spraying is only spraying when you miss. Because if you quickly shot all four ruger bullets at the general direction of an enemy the moment you spawn, and you hit, it wouldn't be called spraying. But if you kept missing, it would be spraying.

[The Epic Guy]

Also, in the poll, what's the difference between shooting wildly and randomly?

Randomly is when you dont really have a clear target in mind. Wildly is when you do, but it still looks like youre shooting randomly (bad aim?).

[Vos]

spraying is shooting randomly, since i just play knife only tehre is no such thing as an ''auto'' so thats clears my point i guess?

[8th_account]

The topic is WRONG.

Spraying is based on several situations and factors. I cba to explain it, but it can generally be distinguished by to what degree someone attempts to use the advantage of range and pushback of the bullets to combat their opponent.

[Vos]

Dont even bother posting this if you cba to explain^^ IMO ofcourse

[echo_trail]

Spraying is based on several situations and factors. I cba to explain it, but it can generally be distinguished by to what degree someone attempts to use the advantage of range and pushback of the bullets to combat their opponent.

100% agreed upon from my side.

[xurich]

In game-terms, spraying is: "Shooting in the general estimated direction of a target, usually off-screen or when firing against an unseen enemy".

I think that's the best definition of spray this topic has seen so far. The only thing that I would alter is changing "usually" to "always." I simply don't consider firing at an on-screen enemy as spray in any sense of the word.

I also agree that the definition is not limited to autos. I know too many people who kill me with ruger spray to suggest that the same definition shouldn't apply.

[SDFilm]

IMO spraying means shooting wildly with little accuracy. Though some people think that spraying (and thus, being lame) is simply the use of an auto :\


Spraying randomly, or wildly? Hmm, I think you should add 'furiously', 'extrovertly' and 'with abandon' to the poll choices.

[Espadon]

Eh, people who use autos to suppress or deny an area or passage usually get whined for spray too.

[Gortaak]

Spray is fun, and a good tactic. For example, you are playing laos on blue side, you are coming up to red base, and you know that most times the enemy will go mid, you cant see him, but chances are he is there or will be there. So while you have a height advantage, you blindly fire your gun into the mid route into red base, usually weakening/killing said player/players on mid route while minimizing damage to yourself, giving you a better chance to grab the flag and get away. Auto users that dont spray, imo, are not smart auto users.

On topic: I define spray as blinding firing in the general direction of where your enemy usually is, based on experience of playing the map.
I also dont really consider blind firing the law and barrett as spray, I just consider it blind fire. And I dont think that you can spray nades, thats more or less spamming them. Tomato, Tomato, ;P

[Ulio]

I'd say spray is when you shoot, with any gun but mostly autos, in a direction where you either know or think an opponent is, usually off-screen.

The key difference I think is whether you aim on a specific target or just a general direction, where "just a general direction" is my definition of spray.

[The Epic Guy]

Smart auto user.

I agree.

[Shady]

To me, spraying is the firing of a gun in the general direction of an incoming opponent before encountering them at least once.

I don't consider killing a fleeing EFC who is off-screen spraying because you have already seen them once (as have they to you, so both parties are even in the amount of information one knows about the other) and it takes skill to predict where the EFC is to adjust your shots accordingly.

I DO, however, consider spraying when you have the knowledge that your opponent is incoming on your route and you shoot in their general direction to inflict damage on them. It requires no skill whatsoever (although it could potentially require a good sense of intuition as some players tend to stay low to the ground and rush while others play airborne). You could argue that it's fair because the other side has the ability to spray, but anyone can agree that spray battles are incredibly boring and really take the fun out of Soldat.

I don't mind when EFCs spray because honestly I don't think they have much else to do in maximizing their safety.