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Offline Marc~UK~

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Flame God Bots and Grenades
« on: April 09, 2009, 06:43:02 pm »
I know that bots will back away from any grenade that lands before them, but what I've noticed recently is that if they pick up the flame god bonus and they become immortal for 10 seconds, they will still back away from grenades. :(

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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2009, 07:30:01 pm »
I guess they really fear Grenades ;).
Yeah they really move away, but shouldn't do that.
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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 09:42:12 pm »
I've seen servers whereby the zombie bots do not fear grenades at all.

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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 05:35:55 am »
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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 05:46:22 am »
So what exactly is your point Marc? And what do you want us to discuss?
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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 05:58:18 am »
The bots should not fear grenades when they're in flame god, since they are invincible

But they can still be blown backwards from the explosion, and running over them is stupid, so my argument is that it should not be changed.

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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 07:01:41 am »
Just a question out of the blue: Can bots bunny hop? Because if they can't, its quite obvious that by simply avoiding grenades, bots can survive more easily.
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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 08:06:24 am »
Just a question out of the blue: Can bots bunny hop? Because if they can't, its quite obvious that by simply avoiding grenades, bots can survive more easily.
They can only bunny-hop if they are waypointed to do so, like when you try to make a bot backflip.

On their own, bots are too stupid to do any of these.

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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 05:19:03 pm »
So what exactly is your point Marc? And what do you want us to discuss?

I thought it might have been a glitch, that a bot, when immortal, wouldn't back away from anything and would simply jet into Mordor without fear. :)

I'm talking default settings, not scripting.

Just seems odd to me that they would back away and not just jet over any grenades.

Would an option to set a bot's fear level be useful?

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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 05:46:35 pm »
If bots are smart enough to figure out where a grenade is, it shouldnt be much trouble for them to jump over it.

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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2009, 05:39:20 am »

Just seems odd to me that they would back away and not just jet over any grenades.

Would an option to set a bot's fear level be useful?

That would be completely unnecessary and bots are already weak enough. It is unlikely that anymore work will be put into bots because Soldat is a MULTIPLAYER GAME. If you want a challenge play online where the only job for bots are to be zombies. Also, most people play online where the Flamer is completely... well simply crap.

If bots are smart enough to figure out where a grenade is, it shouldnt be much trouble for them to jump over it.

Its not that simple, bots use watpoints to bunnyhop, backflip etc., and they work out the players and nades positions using a X and Y graph limited to a certain region (determined by where they are looking). So what would happen if the player spammed 5 grenades in front of the bot:

The bot charges towards the player and jumps over a grenade. Not being able to jump again in the air, the bot lands on a grenade. Death.

Once again, bots don't need much work. Just play online or LAN (if you have the patience).

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Re: Flame God Bots and Grenades
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2009, 04:55:29 am »
Well it is true some of these kind of bugs in bots just have to be fixed, i mean it'd idiotically lame...Bots ARE stupid.
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