Author Topic: Something's... Just... Odd... (Read 7271 times)

tehsnipah · « **on:** April 17, 2009, 11:25:53 pm »

All this time, the weapons were keep getting balanced. But here's the thing, don't you guys think the weapons are getting stronger and stronger, that you die in a split second?

Don't you think that instead of boosting all weapons to make it all deadly-one-second-kill, it should try to be balanced in a bit weaker way?

I found out that it is so much easier to kill players in 1.5 now. I'm not saying that the guns are overpowered, but shouldn't it be a bit weakened, I mean, there is a Realastic Mode...

m00` · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2009, 11:39:39 pm »

The same thing was said a few versions ago, if anyone remembers?

Platehead · « **Reply #2 on:** April 18, 2009, 04:06:34 am »

If you look at it that way, they all either get stronger or they all get weaker. If it takes too long to kill, I guess soldat would lose its fast pace...

-Major- · « **Reply #3 on:** April 18, 2009, 08:07:58 am »

well, in earlier versions the weapons were stronger, then they got weaker, now they're getting stronger again.

Poop · « **Reply #4 on:** April 18, 2009, 09:11:33 am »

If you take a look at the 1.2.1 balance, you will notice that almost every weapon is way stronger in that than it is now. So maybe they are getting stronger, but that is nothing new. The weapons had gotten too weak over the last few versions and the game was becoming more and more defensive.

Crimson Goth · « **Reply #5 on:** April 18, 2009, 12:29:25 pm »

It sucks dying so quickly though. I see a change, but it isn't THAT bad.

Ragnaros · « **Reply #6 on:** April 18, 2009, 12:44:52 pm »

hah you dont like that teh barret is becoming more useless?

btw minigun is now Real Heavy Assault Machine (Heavy machine gun? hell yes now)
try to use it in big matches (5vs5, 6vs6 or more)
hehe im happy xD

Farah · « **Reply #7 on:** April 18, 2009, 01:07:53 pm »

yeah imo this balance is pretty good compared to the last few versions tbh

AntiHero · « **Reply #8 on:** April 18, 2009, 01:50:34 pm »

Agreed dosent any find the autos more stronger...

tehsnipah · « **Reply #9 on:** April 18, 2009, 03:53:14 pm »

Quote from: Ragnaros on April 18, 2009, 12:44:52 pm

hah you dont like that teh barret is becoming more useless?

btw minigun is now Real Heavy Assault Machine (Heavy machine gun? hell yes now)
try to use it in big matches (5vs5, 6vs6 or more)
hehe im happy xD

Not really, I'm still capable of killing them with ease if I can scope.

And if I just create a mind chart, then this time if people says the weapons are too overpowerd, then they'll extremely underpower I'm predicting... Ugh, whatever, I was just wondering if it was just me.

Well, thank you for opinions people.

Thinkto urself · « **Reply #10 on:** April 18, 2009, 06:04:04 pm »

I'm just gonna throw it out, this is what it's like with all actively updating multiplayer games out there. The community can never settle on one thing; after you've balanced it once, they'll start complaining about something again, the cycle repeats and what you eventually end up with is a continually random change in weapon and general game balance.

tehsnipah · « **Reply #11 on:** April 18, 2009, 07:26:53 pm »

Quote from: Thinkto urself on April 18, 2009, 06:04:04 pm

I'm just gonna throw it out, this is what it's like with all actively updating multiplayer games out there. The community can never settle on one thing; after you've balanced it once, they'll start complaining about something again, the cycle repeats and what you eventually end up with is a continually random change in weapon and general game balance.

That is actually true.

Platehead · « **Reply #12 on:** April 19, 2009, 11:37:22 pm »

Yeah.
Above, I saw a comment on barrett. Is it just me, or is the bink much weaker now?
I was using minigun yesterday, it can now kill quite quick.
I prefer it like this, soldat is a fast game, so imo the update was good.

Geoffrey · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2009, 01:03:56 pm »

Skoskav does indeed look to strengthen the weapons in the new balances. I agree with poop in that it should help move away from the more defensive play in league play. I haven't played with this balance myself (unless it is the one from gathers before the release a while back) but it seems to have found a nice place if it can just remove some of the defensive play. In saying that I agree with tehsnipah in that there is a game mode designed for quick kills and that is realistic mode where the balance is great because the power is countered by the recoil. It should always stay fast paced.

Gnoblar · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2009, 06:01:57 am »

I like high damage. I've always been a fan. I like the ability to, if you're skilled enough, being able to kill more than one opponent in a very short time. That's why I liked COD4 so much. It was so fun, you can aim, kill three bad guys, duck, reload and run away, but it can happen right back to you. I like high damage, high accuracy and instant respawns. It's fast, intense and fun, and I think it suits soldat. Killing one person per clip is bad, it should be a moshpit of bullets and gore. My thoughts anyway.

STM1993 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 24, 2009, 11:02:39 am »

I just downloaded 1.5 in my free time tonight and tried it out (I'm extremely tired btw). Its pace is much faster.

Quote from: Geoffrey on April 20, 2009, 01:03:56 pm

Skoskav does indeed look to strengthen the weapons in the new balances. I agree with poop in that it should help move away from the more defensive play in league play. I haven't played with this balance myself (unless it is the one from gathers before the release a while back) but it seems to have found a nice place if it can just remove some of the defensive play. In saying that I agree with tehsnipah in that there is a game mode designed for quick kills and that is realistic mode where the balance is great because the power is countered by the recoil. It should always stay fast paced.

I'd have to be a bit critical of this idea. If Soldat was moving towards an offensive gameplay, then what would be the use of the defensive weapons being placed in Soldat since everyone is just going to play offensively and would therefore pick the offensive weapons? Isn't one of the goals to also balance the usage of each weapon?

A goal of Soldat is to make the game fast-paced, but is it going so fast-paced that it is beginning to unbalance the weapons by driving players to playing only offensively and forgetting defense?

Geoffrey · « **Reply #16 on:** April 24, 2009, 11:14:38 am »

Well that's why I hope it doesn't go any further since it edges towards the power of realistic mode without the recoil etc to balance it.

8th_account · « **Reply #17 on:** April 24, 2009, 12:51:19 pm »

The pace can go noticeably faster. Realistic mode means nothing to vanilla mode.

poodleinacan · « **Reply #18 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:46:13 pm »

Yea, the weapons are geting stronger and stronger.
Now what's next? The big machine-gun will reload in a blink of a eye and have a 1000 bullet clips and a fire rate of 50 f/s ?
The weapons should be weaker. Because for exemple when there's a guy that play's 24 hours a day, and does 20 kill without dying....well it boring.

So, GO FOR WEAKER WEAPONS!

pavliko · « **Reply #19 on:** April 29, 2009, 01:47:16 pm »

yep in realistic usually i do 3 shots in the head and the enemy dies

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