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Greetings, how good to see Soldat had such a flourishing development... This is such a great game indeed. Let me introduce myself, I been playing Soldat at it's early versions, but since then, I haven't touched it until now. After some moments of trying other's mods, I am now putting my hands in making a mod myself.

-=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
The DEV Mod (Currently Frozen)
This is a mod based on Espadon's (Which happens to be our mod here.) artworks on the DA gallery. So far, I had created these weapons:
Sorentam SG-66A2

ERiS Taktisch A3

Weapons Menu

Sprites made by ChaoticEnvoy, with GIMP.
Concept and original artwork courtesy Espadon.

Soldat 2095: Combat on Mars (In development)
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2009, 07:20:23 am »
I think this belongs to 'general discussions'

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2009, 08:06:37 am »
The forum guidelines said that WiPs mods are able to be posted here, seeing I have a download, and a screenshot here. I do believe that this thread belongs to here.

By the way, any comments on them?
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2009, 08:42:42 am »
Espadon was already making some weapons...
IMO Espadon's work should be done by Espadon.

About those weapons, too much black lines try to make them in another colour, they might look better

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2009, 09:02:05 am »
Espadon was already making some weapons...
IMO Espadon's work should be done by Espadon.

About those weapons, too much black lines try to make them in another colour, they might look better

I have the green light from Espadon, so I think it's alright.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2009, 09:24:37 am »
Looks good, but Espadons...?

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2009, 09:39:22 am »
Um did you ask Espadon if you could use his weapons?? :-\

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2009, 09:40:45 am »
Um did you ask Espadon if you could use his weapons?? :-\

I did, and he sees no trouble with it.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2009, 09:45:57 am »
Fair enough, though it'd be nice to see something more original.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2009, 09:56:23 am »
Fair enough, though it'd be nice to see something more original.

You might see me in making real-life weapons or something creative sooner or later =]

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2009, 09:58:28 am »
Fair enough, though it'd be nice to see something more original.
Go to make your mods and leave him alone 'original' -man

ChaoticEnvoy are you planning of making gosteks or more weapons?

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2009, 10:00:28 am »
I think I will do more guns first... gosteks are hard to figure out... at least for me.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 02:49:22 pm »
Well as far as the guns look I like your style and I think it works good with Espadons weapons.The problem is that I don't think Espadon has made enough weapons to make a soldat mod with so are you planing to make some of your own designs?

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2009, 07:09:37 pm »
Well as far as the guns look I like your style and I think it works good with Espadons weapons.The problem is that I don't think Espadon has made enough weapons to make a soldat mod with so are you planing to make some of your own designs?

It is very true. But I think I will NOT make weapons of my own in this mod... As Espadon told me that he will release more stuff about his DEV project... so I will have to wait for now...
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2009, 11:57:26 am »
Bump. Added some new stuffs in the first post.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2009, 12:01:20 pm »
Wow Soviet Martians?
So Mars is the new USSR. Wait are you following Espadon's storyline?

As I see the weapons are nowdays ones based, maybe they should be a bit more futuristic if not upgrade a bit the shapes, shading is great, take a look to those stocks and handles

For now looks good but could be better, keep working

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2009, 12:03:59 pm »
Wow Soviet Martians?
So Mars is the new USSR. Wait are you following Espadon's storyline?

As I see the weapons are nowdays ones based, maybe they should be a bit more futuristic if not upgrade a bit the shapes, shading is great, take a look to those stocks and handles

For now looks good but could be better, keep working

Yep, I was following on Espadon's storyline... but in fact, there's aren't much stuff I can do with it now... Thus I decided to do something else in the time being. I consider the DEV mod now frozen.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2009, 12:21:44 pm »
Oh sorry I havent readed the title Soldat 2095, my bad.

Can we know about gosteks and weapons, I mean how they are gonna be

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2009, 12:29:51 pm »
Oh sorry I havent readed the title Soldat 2095, my bad.

Can we know about gosteks and weapons, I mean how they are gonna be

Oh sure. I would like to tell.
In my storyline, military technogies are somewhat a little advanced than our present day. Some hi-tech military hardwares today are commonplace within my storyline. (Say like powered infantry suits.) Most weapons are still propelled by conventional means, while there are some prototype weapons, testing out some mass-driver/railgun technologies.
tl:dr, The weapons will be a mix of "upgraded" present-day weapons and prototype hi-tech guns.


As for the gosteks... I think they will be looking like this (Sorry for my bad art skillz.):



Those will be the references for my gosteks.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2009, 12:36:12 pm »
Wow those drawings are great, are they yours?

I would like to see those weapons that the soldiers are holding specially the ones from the top image

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2009, 12:37:53 pm »
Wow those drawings are great, are they yours?

I would like to see those weapons that the soldiers are holding specially the ones from the top image

Yep, I drew them. And infact, that weapon held by the Earth Coalition marines is the IWB AR-90, sans the underbarrel grenade launcher.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2009, 12:42:23 pm »
Oh good...
But I think that AR-90 if it's like the one from the drawing should go:
==\--
1  2 3

1. Body of the weapon (the front part)
2. The ending of the body and that will unite the barrel with the body, to simulate some weapons like Tavor could be a line like that \ and with some holes to decrease the muzzle, and in weapon-gfx you could modify the fire so the muzzle will go by those holes
3. The barrel

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2009, 12:46:24 pm »
Oh good...
But I think that AR-90 if it's like the one from the drawing should go:
==\--
1  2 3

1. Body of the weapon (the front part)
2. The ending of the body and that will unite the barrel with the body, to simulate some weapons like Tavor could be a line like that \ and with some holes to decrease the muzzle, and in weapon-gfx you could modify the fire so the muzzle will go by those holes
3. The barrel

You mean... to add a flash-hider/muzzle brake?

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2009, 02:00:59 pm »
Yeah, why not? Just try it and if you don't like it take the other version

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2009, 03:15:59 pm »
Do you have any appetizers for the weapons or gosteks? Would make things interesting, and worth waiting for :)
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2009, 08:37:07 pm »
@SkyKanden: I will have a go on that.

@demoniac93: In fact, I had some on the first page... Added the "Inspirational Art" on the first post.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2009, 09:58:29 pm »
Now, after i realized this is based on espadons artworks, i must say i just love you.
Finally someone is making it.
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=-
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2009, 02:20:25 am »
That's not DEV storyline. Allow me to clarify that while I allow permission to base the weapons off my DEV artwork, but I am not endorsing this mod as DEV canon in any way.
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2009, 02:27:37 am »
@Espadon: Got it. By the way, the DEV mod's development is currently frozen, as I have insufficient information on it by now.

Updates on the first page, added several new weapons, and added some texts to each weapon, for those who wonder what they do.

Also, I need some ideas and inspriations on the remaining weapons, my brain is running out of juice now...
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2009, 06:32:13 am »
The first 3 weapons I don't like ( they look a bit cartoony ) the rest look really nice (btw by the first 3 I don't mean Espadons guns).

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2009, 06:51:27 am »
I really like the last 2 weapons
The update to ar-90 looks great.
Wait does the railgun has what all Tau (W40k) weapons has? (at the back part of the weapon)

Saiga is so small

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2009, 07:00:05 am »
I really like the last 2 weapons
The update to ar-90 looks great.
Wait does the railgun has what all Tau (W40k) weapons has? (at the back part of the weapon)

Saiga is so small

I think it's some sort of capacitor or cartiage delievery mechanism. Caseless weapons use that kind of thing.

And yes, I will make the Saiga a little bigger... it looks too small to be a shotgun.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2009, 08:26:17 am »
The 3rd, 4th, and 5th weapons look too raw and paper-ish, the last two are too alike :/
But the gostek material seems quite amazing, I must say espadon, you're ideas are epic :O
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2009, 11:21:12 am »
Try adding some light to your weapons I think that would make them look much better. :)

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2009, 11:38:27 am »
Try adding some light to your weapons I think that would make them look much better. :)

Mind teaching me how to?

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2009, 12:31:44 pm »
Try adding some light to your weapons I think that would make them look much better. :)

Mind teaching me how to?

Just add more contrast but IMO your shading looks good

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2009, 12:56:30 pm »
Shading is very easy just take a light color and a darker sample of that same color.


|LIGHT color|DARK color|LIGHT color|

then take the blur tool (its the little pointing hand in GIMP) and mix them together.

sorry for the poor description but the best way to learn is to try.

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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2009, 03:01:54 am »



^Looking good, however the contrast is too high in general, try tweaking it a bit.

If that's a laser beam on the ERIS A3, i'd remove it since they never make the weapon look any better.

Edit:  or are these Espadon's work?
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Re: -=The Chaotic Arsenal=- (Update:12/5/09: New weapons)
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2009, 03:31:39 am »



^Looking good, however the contrast is too high in general, try tweaking it a bit.

If that's a laser beam on the ERIS A3, i'd remove it since they never make the weapon look any better.

Edit:  or are these Espadon's work?

These weapons are direct rip-offs from Espadon's artwork. However, I added the laser beam on ERiS A3 for "artistic liberty"... I might be removing it soon. Yet the DEV mod is currently frozen, what do you think about my other weapons on the Soldat 2095 mod?

Edit: I have moved the CoM mod to General Discussion to avoid clutter, this thread will contain my assorted stuffs in the future.
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The first drawing is too dwarvish, but the second is great!!!

I'm posting concept art soon for 2057.

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Q: Will this thread replace the current one in Partial forum?

I had moved the whole Soldat 2095 section to here, so the "Chaotic Arsenal" thread becomes my assorted stuff.

Anyway, thoughts on this thing?

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