Author Topic: Most Unbalanced Weapon (for version 1.5) (Read 54224 times)

STM1993 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 23, 2009, 06:15:36 am »

Okay, I get what you mean now. I admit I am wrong.

Anyway, I just have one question, what is your method of ensuring that you are accurate when firing the Minimi? Afterall, the Minimi suffers from movementacc, you'd have to either stop moving in one spot or cancel it in the same manner as the Barrett, or let its low self-bink override its movementacc after the 4th shot, or use the same "tap-fire" method as seen in the Steyr Aug video.

The AK's bullets go pretty consistently in that manner.

Jaedong · « **Reply #61 on:** July 23, 2009, 07:06:02 am »

Movementacc for autos does not exist.

STM1993 · « **Reply #62 on:** July 23, 2009, 08:46:18 am »

Quote from: Jaedong on July 23, 2009, 07:06:02 am

Movementacc for autos does not exist.

The other autos' movementacc is negligible, but it exists at least for the Minimi, though you can't really see it unless you're shooting relatively far away while moving. The 1.5 update made this value for the Minimi even smaller.

Quote from: Jaedong on July 22, 2009, 05:10:49 am

But with this new update, I think it's a bit too easy with 50 bullets and the best bullets (compared to the other autos).

Minimi got the buff of having a lower self-bink (from -12 to -7) and movementacc from 4 to 3.
MP5 no longer had any bink and had +1 damage.
AK was -1 damage and had -7 bink instead of -16.
Aug had -5 ammo, +1 damage and -19 bink instead of -22.

No doubt the Minimi has become easier to use if you compare with the autos now, since the autos are basically nerfed (except MP5) and the Minimi did become even more easy to hit with from a long distance.

Nubism · « **Reply #63 on:** August 13, 2009, 07:08:41 pm »

every weapon is too bad or too good.

CrayAB · « **Reply #64 on:** August 27, 2009, 06:54:38 pm »

Definitely the Spaz-12. Any decent Spaz-12 user is a killing machine in competitive matches.

8 bullets, with a full hit taking about half the person's HP. You can spray like crazy with it, constantly reload (enemy being pushed back the whole time), and unless the person wants to hide in their base the whole game, you aren't getting past him. No weapon can stand up to it in close range, besides the M79, and possibly the MP5 if you worm. Since you're constantly getting pushed back when shot, you have to be VERY good with M79 to continue to beat it.

A lot of people think you can just out range it. Well, that's true, but there are two problems to that. One, a person can just duck down, wait for you to move in, then you can jump up and shoot. Your opponent just lost half their HP without having a chance to do much of anything.

The second problem is that most of the maps are predominantly close range. ctf_Cobra, ctf_Division, top on ctf_Voland, ctf_Blade, ctf_Guardian, mid and low on ctf_Ash, ctf_Nuubia, top and mid on ctf_Death2, ctf_Hormone, low on ctf_IceBeam, mid on ctf_Kampf. The list goes on where the Spaz-12 can pick apart any other gun.

"Oh, but what about other gamemodes where you CAN just run away?" All the other gamemodes besides CTF and DM are practically dead. DM, yeah, I suppose you can run away the whole time, but once again, a lot of the DM maps are close range, allowing the Spaz-12 to once again shine.

I'm not whining or complaining. I'm a Spaz-12 user myself. I find it pretty funny when people try to rush me with a M79, only to be pushed back, have their aim all messed up, and miss. Or a Ruger, which most people hover and fire. I can just rush right up to them, and spray away, pushing them, messing up their aim, and killing them/forcing them back to their base.

This beast of a weapon needs a nerf.

Anicsin · « **Reply #65 on:** September 30, 2009, 03:33:51 pm »

i think the most unballanced is FN minimi, you just have to tap the shoot button and aim good, and you can't die.
it has a lot of ammo, good acc and too much dmg

tehsnipah · « **Reply #66 on:** September 30, 2009, 08:10:40 pm »

Wow, spas is more frustrating than m79 now. Since there is an extra round, push, and damage, it's very useful for even beginners....

Crimson Goth · « **Reply #67 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:13:59 pm »

I'm fine with the Spaz. It's a shotgun ffs. It's suppose to own up close lol

CatGirl · « **Reply #68 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:51:14 am »

Why people hate spas now?
I mean its the most balanced weapon.
"Don't get hit by the spas" <-- my tactic

tehsnipah · « **Reply #69 on:** October 01, 2009, 09:48:57 am »

Quote from: Crimson Goth on September 30, 2009, 11:13:59 pm

I'm fine with the Spaz. It's a shotgun ffs. It's suppose to own up close lol

In long range, it is still frustrating, because it can still push people off.

Quote from: CatGirl on October 01, 2009, 03:51:14 am

Why people hate spas now?
I mean its the most balanced weapon.
"Don't get hit by the spas" <-- my tactic

Yeah, very smooth there my friend. Play with professionals or crowded pub -_-

CatGirl · « **Reply #70 on:** October 01, 2009, 12:29:34 pm »

Quote from: tehsnipah link=topic=34505.msg438127#msg438127
[quote author=CatGirl link=topic=34505.msg438077#msg438077 date=1254387074

Why people hate spas now?
I mean its the most balanced weapon.
"Don't get hit by the spas" <-- my tactic

Yeah, very smooth there my friend. Play with professionals or crowded pub -_-
[/quote]
Easy! ctf,r/s spas is only needed on short maps but try spas in ttw where you have no jets and you fight in close range battles(unlike tw).
So spas is easy to fight againts

tehsnipah · « **Reply #71 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:02:23 pm »

Quote from: CatGirl on October 01, 2009, 12:29:34 pm

Quote from: tehsnipah link=topic=34505.msg438127#msg438127
[quote author=CatGirl link=topic=34505.msg438077#msg438077 date=1254387074
Why people hate spas now?
I mean its the most balanced weapon.
"Don't get hit by the spas" <-- my tactic
Yeah, very smooth there my friend. Play with professionals or crowded pub -_-

Quote

Easy! ctf,r/s spas is only needed on short maps but try spas in ttw where you have no jets and you fight in close range battles(unlike tw).
So spas is easy to fight againts

I play unrealastic. Besies, Spas's damage is HUGE in realastic.

Anicsin · « **Reply #72 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:55:16 pm »

yup instant death if you are close enough.
best thing is when you go, and a guy with spas jumps out from nowhere and owns you

Xxypher · « **Reply #73 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:00:05 am »

The spas is fine for me, I love it. Except for the Leg-shots doing absolutely nothing. I use it all of the time.

tehsnipah · « **Reply #74 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:13:50 am »

Obviously many love it because it is easy to use.

demoniac93 · « **Reply #75 on:** October 03, 2009, 04:07:51 pm »

Quote from: tehsnipah on October 03, 2009, 11:13:50 am

Obviously many love it because it is easy to use.

Yeah, the Spas is easy to use and my name is Elvis.

F4||3N · « **Reply #76 on:** October 03, 2009, 08:53:19 pm »

Ruger is my least fav weapon. You get all these dicks with aimbot getting one hit kills, it becomes 3 times more powerful then the Baz!

I have to admit, spas is quite overpowered. I absolutely poon with it far more than I do with any other weapon. But at the same time, it's perfect. Maybe the range should be shortened. And have it's bullets similar to the STAT gun! How they disappear after a while.

If it were completely close range, than it would be perfect. Once you hit 0 ammo, you cant keep firing until it reloads. and if you shoot while its reloading it shoots up or whatever.... (its the only weapon I use, and I still dont know how it works -.-)

As for nades and minigun, they should be completely removed, or revamped. Minigun should just been changed into a new weapon. Most servers don't even use it. And the server that do use it, are sh_t.

Remove the mini... Revamp the nades. Have it so it doesnt explode on impact, instead you can hold nade, for up to 3-5 seconds than throw it.

Xxypher · « **Reply #77 on:** October 04, 2009, 01:11:09 am »

People, I still say the AK is very unbalanced compared to the other three autos. I can rush through, and take out everyone with the styer or the HK, but with the AK, I just get gunned down, even when I begin shooting first.

Nixer · « **Reply #78 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:36:59 am »

I just think the AK works fine for me, although I spray a lot and I only really use it on TW/TTW.

tehsnipah · « **Reply #79 on:** October 04, 2009, 09:41:19 pm »

Quote from: Xxypher on October 04, 2009, 01:11:09 am

People, I still say the AK is very unbalanced compared to the other three autos. I can rush through, and take out everyone with the styer or the HK, but with the AK, I just get gunned down, even when I begin shooting first.

No way dude, Ak has plenty of ammo and great damage to take down at least two enemies.

Both HK and AUG have fast firing speed, but Ak has both the power and accuracy. (Except MP5 maybe)

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