Author Topic: Most Unbalanced Weapon (for version 1.5) (Read 54223 times)

STM1993 · « **Reply #100 on:** November 15, 2009, 12:34:34 am »

Mini-14 =/= 77. They're two different guns, though by the same manufacturer.

I doubt it is underpowered at all. Ruger is a weapon that deals so much damage per shot that if your health were not more than half, it will become like a super-Barrett to you. It's a very difficult weapon to use, but it is damned rewarding when you use it well. Plus, don't forget this is a team game. Imagine if 2 people in a team use Ruger. That'd be crazy.

Anicsin · « **Reply #101 on:** November 15, 2009, 09:37:56 am »

well, you are right, 2 rugerers can kick ass

T-Bone · « **Reply #102 on:** November 19, 2009, 01:27:57 am »

i think in general the balance of the game is pretty even. I would like to see a little damage buff for mp5s (however im extremely biased towards them) and i do think the spas is a tad overpowered.

granted the spas is more of a situational gun (really coming into its own on the close quarters maps....duh), but the extra shell, the great speed boost, and the solid damage make it a formidable gun on any mid/close range map

JayX4 · « **Reply #103 on:** December 01, 2009, 05:54:58 pm »

I'm going with the Spaz or the Minigun.

card_game · « **Reply #104 on:** January 27, 2010, 06:02:48 pm »

Minigun works *very* well in single-player against bots; but in internet games it's pretty tough to get kills with it if the other team isn't completely newb.

Baoden · « **Reply #105 on:** February 09, 2010, 11:47:13 pm »

Soldat can be easily summed up as a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Barret is Paper.

Autos are Scissors.

Spas is Rock.

Ruger 77 is Jesus.

M79 is ~~Moses~~ Allah.

Deagles is Israel.

Paper beats rock.
Scissors also happens to beat rock.
Then rock meets Scissors and Paper in a tunnel and beats them both.
Spas goes back out into the open where he is struck down by Jesus.
Allah, not to be outdone, blows Jesus into fiery bits.
Rock, Paper, Scissors, and Jesus all respawn and take advantage of Allah's downtime.
Allah is booted for "L0L M79 NUB"
Israel wins.

And that is called "Weapon Balance."

No but seriously, I feel everything's pretty evened out, and changing the balance much more will cause more problems. Balance is one damn hard thing to achieve.

Now I'm leaving before I'm flamed hard for my obviously inaccurate comparison.

demoniac93 · « **Reply #106 on:** February 10, 2010, 08:53:10 am »

You mean, offensive comparison...
And no, Spas right now has so much in it right now I can beat Steyr's with it on inf_Invasion...
That having been said, the best weapon balance I've known so far is that from 1.4.1...
Heck, even .2 was good, at least better than the current "balance"...

tehsnipah · « **Reply #107 on:** February 10, 2010, 12:48:53 pm »

Quote from: Baoden on February 09, 2010, 11:47:13 pm

Soldat can be easily summed up as a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Barret is Paper.

Autos are Scissors.

Spas is Rock.

Ruger 77 is Jesus.

M79 is ~~Moses~~ Allah.

Deagles is Israel.

Paper beats rock.
Scissors also happens to beat rock.
Then rock meets Scissors and Paper in a tunnel and beats them both.
Spas goes back out into the open where he is struck down by Jesus.
Allah, not to be outdone, blows Jesus into fiery bits.
Rock, Paper, Scissors, and Jesus all respawn and take advantage of Allah's downtime.
Allah is booted for "L0L M79 NUB"
Israel wins.

And that is called "Weapon Balance."

No but seriously, I feel everything's pretty evened out, and changing the balance much more will cause more problems. Balance is one damn hard thing to achieve.

Now I'm leaving before I'm flamed hard for my obviously inaccurate comparison.

This can be debunked very, very bad.... This whole rock paper scissors depends on the range of targets first of all. (Example) If a player using a barret sees a player with spas in half a screen range, then yeah, the sniper is dead.

But nice try organizing.

-Major- · « **Reply #108 on:** February 11, 2010, 04:26:24 am »

barrett is strong in close combat, especially if it's a map with a lot of polygons all around (ctf_Nuubia) and ofc it must be ready to fire. it's good in long range, due to the range, you can fire a bullet before you get binked. the downsides is the movement acc,causing difficulties to aim, bink and the rather slow fire interval.

in general, all the autos (especially Minimi and AK) are way greater than the semi autos. thus the autos should be nerfed with damage removal and semis boosted with damage, and remove mostly of barretts movement acc and some start up time.

tehsnipah · « **Reply #109 on:** February 11, 2010, 04:48:56 pm »

Quote from: -Major- on February 11, 2010, 04:26:24 am

barrett is strong in close combat, especially if it's a map with a lot of polygons all around (ctf_Nuubia) and ofc it must be ready to fire. it's good in long range, due to the range, you can fire a bullet before you get binked. the downsides is the movement acc,causing difficulties to aim, bink and the rather slow fire interval.

in general, all the autos (especially Minimi and AK) are way greater than the semi autos. thus the autos should be nerfed with damage removal and semis boosted with damage, and remove mostly of barretts movement acc and some start up time.

Removing barrett movement acc is like rambo walking around with a freakin nuke. No, even though I am a strong advocate of barret users, I have to disagree with removing the movement acc. Barrett will be extremely overpowered.

biohazard · « **Reply #110 on:** February 11, 2010, 05:09:03 pm »

since autos got no selfbink anymore, barret must be buffed somehow.

Datiz0 · « **Reply #111 on:** February 11, 2010, 09:56:35 pm »

id say spas too.
if you're just close enough 1 shot can kill you.
if you're just too far away, nothing happens to you.

Madow · « **Reply #112 on:** February 14, 2010, 05:01:33 am »

The top 3 voted are probably spot on.

Spas-12 for it's devastating power in a questionable range. Minigun (if it regs perfectly) and the FN Minimi, for it's very stable control and bullet count.

-Major- · « **Reply #113 on:** February 14, 2010, 11:15:52 am »

minimigun is there for being underpowered.

biohazard · « **Reply #114 on:** February 14, 2010, 11:36:54 am »

Quote from: -Major- on February 14, 2010, 11:15:52 am

minimigun is there for being underpowered.

As like some bugs MM never fixed intentionaly, minigun is supposed to make ppl laugh. You got the point. But, its somewhat usefull and trying the last breath desesperate cap.

tehsnipah · « **Reply #115 on:** February 14, 2010, 12:06:40 pm »

Minigun needs extreme buff. Nuff' said, but now to think about it, we're only talking about overpowered weapon. I think AUG should be buffed a little; I mean, 25 rounds? Come on!

zakath · « **Reply #116 on:** February 14, 2010, 12:08:39 pm »

Quote from: tehsnipah on February 14, 2010, 12:06:40 pm

Minigun needs extreme buff. Nuff' said, but now to think about it, we're only talking about overpowered weapon. I think AUG should be buffed a little; I mean, 25 rounds? Come on!

minigun fails at netcode other then that its quite powerful.

tehsnipah · « **Reply #117 on:** February 14, 2010, 12:09:26 pm »

So if I play with just bots, it's perfectly fine?

demoniac93 · « **Reply #118 on:** February 14, 2010, 12:18:14 pm »

Quote from: tehsnipah on February 14, 2010, 12:09:26 pm

So if I play with just bots, it's perfectly fine?

You never had a one on one with Blain offline, eh?

tehsnipah · « **Reply #119 on:** February 14, 2010, 01:25:55 pm »

Yeah.

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