Author Topic: Server Idea: Realistic Mountain Climbing. (Read 9059 times)

_Why · « **on:** July 02, 2009, 11:17:56 pm »

Here's an idea I've wanted to see for a long time. A climbing server with its own custom climbing maps that revolve around "mountain climbing". Of course, to retain realism, there would not be any death polies, but rather we'd make it a realistic server, so if you fall from a height you hurt yourself. It'd be the same as all climbing servers except for mountain climbing maps based around vertical climbing and what not, and a realistic server. A few other perks could be added, like attaining a bullet proof vest for climbing up half the map, so if you fall you won't be hurt as much. Of course, there'd be no save points, and health packs would be minimal.

~Niko~ · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2009, 02:00:51 pm »

The damage could easily be exaggerated with an script. Get some maps of that kind and then we'll see.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #2 on:** July 03, 2009, 10:54:15 pm »

ctf_LaaF-Park2 and 3 are great for it

_Why · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2009, 12:34:27 am »

I'm not really into parkour in this server. What I mean by mountain climbing was scaling rocks and stuff. I'm working on a demo map right now to give you guys an idea (although it's going to suck, since I'm by no means a mapper).

Of course, if I could script, damage would be multiplied by 2, so if you fell from a high enough height, you'd die upon impact.

_Why · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2009, 01:43:32 am »

The server is up if you want to try the map: ctf_m_brun.

outcry.u13.net / 30121

That's just to give you an idea. It really sucks, and you should be able to get through it in a few minutes (if you don't die, of course).

All maps made for this should have the _m_ tag. ctf_m_name

Really hoping to see some nice, well though out, and detailed climbing maps. :p

Chariot · « **Reply #5 on:** July 04, 2009, 10:41:54 pm »

Could you post the map here? I keep getting wrong map version when I join.

Avarax · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2009, 05:13:55 am »

You could also increase gravity scriptwise to make it more realistic or code bullets coming from the side at random to emulate wind with a pushing effect.

Polifen · « **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2009, 05:53:36 am »

Problem is that he can't add scripts, he has no access to FTP. Maybe someone would host server when there will be more maps

. I will upload one map here today or tommorow.

JFK · « **Reply #8 on:** July 05, 2009, 08:11:03 am »

Quote from: Polifen on July 05, 2009, 05:53:36 am

Problem is that he can't add scripts, he has no access to FTP.

Email FLAB or jrgp, u13 offers FTP access on request.

~Niko~ · « **Reply #9 on:** July 05, 2009, 08:20:07 am »

I maybe make some kind of script for this. Seems like a good idea, instead of all the cheap climbing maps we've played before. this seems like a quite good change. The script will feature:
-You can't join Bravo, only Alpha
-Medical kits on /heal
-Maybe even a medic? Who knows...
-You automatically regenerate your wounds.
-What else...

*making*

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2009, 09:41:17 am »

Also add:

-Position saving
-Group climbing (you can create a group and invite your friends, a group should have a maximum of 4 slots and you can type /warp x (x is the # of the slot your groupmember fills)). A group caps together --> One member caps, all die and start from the beginning + they all become points.
-Highscorelists (for each map, counting in seconds) for solo climbers and groups

Vermithrax · « **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2009, 09:50:24 am »

I like the hole idea.

-But the script... If there should be rly one, it shouldn't be possible to do /heal as often as you want (only 1-2times).
-Only Alpha? And than teams !? Let's do a race, Alpha vs Bravo, like the race on the "Mount Everest" !?
-Save is for noobs and bugged

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~Niko~ · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2009, 09:55:18 am »

ok. the group idea is something that I can not do with the knowledge I have with pascal, so I'd leave some other one do that. I'll do all the other stuff you suggested. /save could be easily enabled or disabled, you can do races, yeah, but make maps of that kind, and /heal will only be possible to do a limited number of times since you spawn, I guess, and it wouldn't heal you completely, just... let's say... 60%?

Vermithrax · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2009, 10:04:32 am »

Youre Idea with the heal is okay, but i still don't like the save :x...

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2009, 10:14:46 am »

Well, if you have a group you don´t need to save (disabled in groups, just for solo climbers): one player stays on one spot, the rest trys to get the next gap. If somebody gets it all warp to that guy and somebody else stays

Save should be optional, if it works the players will be happy so enable it. Also do it like you can use only 15 times /save and 200 times /load.

Vermithrax · « **Reply #15 on:** July 05, 2009, 10:35:40 am »

Okay that's nice

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I made a map, it's just a idea, for the start we could use it i think...

p0ppin · « **Reply #16 on:** July 05, 2009, 12:00:03 pm »

Saving is for PANSIES

But I like the mountain-climbing idea

~Niko~ · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2009, 12:05:29 pm »

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Save would be another function in the script that could be disabled/enabled in certain maps, per example, if a map is very long you will want to save on it, otherwise get to the top would be almost impossible.

Polifen · « **Reply #18 on:** July 05, 2009, 01:15:58 pm »

What doesn't change that save is lame

. I asked friends that make maps, tomorrow i will post a few.

EDIT : About healing, it's mountain climbing, there could be camps with healing polys.

~Niko~ · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2009, 02:08:32 pm »

Or medics and that stuff. Self-healing as the time passes, too.

_Why · « **Reply #20 on:** July 05, 2009, 04:21:55 pm »

I'll be honest, I don't want any medics or "healing" polygons, but occasional camps on long ass mountain trails would be great. Of course medic packs in these camps would be sparse, with only 4 med kits spread along the entire map. It'd be okay to have ONE /heal, since if you're going to climb a mountain irl, you're probably going to bring something to fix your wounds. But I'm thinking it should only fix half health instead of magically repair you to full fitness.

I don't think there should be any scripts that enforce teams or anything. I believe we should leave it up to the mapper to design either a pit that bravo is stuck in, or if they want a race map with teams spawned on other sides. Scripts should only add to realism, let the mappers decide the game type.

Save is not an option in my opinion. I mean, the only thing that can kill you is falling from a height. Besides, mountain climbing in real life is usually a big feat, so this should at least virtually recreate the sensation of accomplishment. This would be added to the fact that I would rather have only 10 well detailed, well crafted maps than 50 half-assed ones, and if there's only 10 massive summits people have to climb, then they should be long and fairly complicated to climb. Then people can add to their list of mountains they've climbed. "Have you climbed _____?" "Hell no, that place is insane, I've only scaled Brun's Summit". People would be building portfolios of mountains they've climbed if they're respectable, but if it's just 100 easy maps, map names will easily be forgotten and no one would care if you scaled this rock or that rock or respect the effort it takes to climb this or that mountain.

There could be a "group" mode, where you all have to reach the summit to be able to score. I've seen something like this in a mission soldat thing where you all had to be by the flag for someone to score.

Another thing I wanted to add: if you're going to make a map or edit a map, don't do any fruity trick jumps, like you have to run for a mile then do 20 backflips over death spikes or something. The fanciest this is going to get it backflipping up sides of mountains, which replaces "scaling with ropes", and jumping over massive crevices with little room to run. This isn't meant to be high speed as there's an element of caution added to this.

Shinobars · « **Reply #21 on:** July 05, 2009, 04:34:02 pm »

Sounds amazing, actually. It's like a tougher version of Climbing, and with more thought out moves than tricky ones.

I pretty much agree with everything Why said. o:

~Niko~ · « **Reply #22 on:** July 06, 2009, 02:32:47 am »

Quote from: _Why on July 05, 2009, 04:21:55 pm

it should only fix half health instead of magically repair you to full fitness.

/heal will only be usable once per respawn and will only heal 60% of the life. I'll set up an exxagerate damage script, too, I just need some more time, i'm still a noob with scripts after all.

_Why · « **Reply #23 on:** July 06, 2009, 03:25:13 am »

Quote from: ~Niko~ on July 06, 2009, 02:32:47 am

Quote from: _Why on July 05, 2009, 04:21:55 pm
it should only fix half health instead of magically repair you to full fitness.
/heal will only be usable once per respawn and will only heal 60% of the life. I'll set up an exxagerate damage script, too, I just need some more time, i'm still a noob with scripts after all.

Right on.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #24 on:** July 06, 2009, 04:59:16 am »

What about groups now, you could do it with a buddy system, too and just 2 slots.

_Why · « **Reply #25 on:** July 06, 2009, 05:12:22 am »

Quote from: DarkCrusade on July 06, 2009, 04:59:16 am

What about groups now, you could do it with a buddy system, too and just 2 slots.

If it's possible, there could be a mIRC buddy match up. You say !groupclimb, and an IRC bot adds you to a slot. You and one other person join a private climbing server and climb up together.

_Why · « **Reply #26 on:** July 06, 2009, 05:24:17 am »

PST: New demo map up @ Mountain Climber's Demo Server. Watch your step...

~Niko~ · « **Reply #27 on:** July 06, 2009, 06:41:32 am »

That map is a hell of a challenging one... You still need a volcano and a iceberg themed one.

Give me ideas about the script, mostly /slash commands for the player. /heal command already works properly. I'd expect another idea, at least.

-Zombie- · « **Reply #28 on:** July 06, 2009, 07:05:48 am »

Quote from: ~Niko~ on July 06, 2009, 06:41:32 am

That map is a hell of a challenging one...

Indeed, but that's what makes it so good. You really gotta fix those poly bugs, they were the things that made the map so hard.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #29 on:** July 06, 2009, 07:32:18 am »

I am currently fixing the whole map

~Niko~ · « **Reply #30 on:** July 06, 2009, 07:52:06 am »

Stick with the current layout, it's simply awesome. And there are jumps that look like they can't be done without luck.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #31 on:** July 06, 2009, 12:59:45 pm »

Well, I made a sketch of the map and I am working currently on a good polygon structure (I am making EVERYTHING new, I deleted the buggy old polygons).

~Niko~ · « **Reply #32 on:** July 06, 2009, 01:46:10 pm »

Scripted Climbing server, with Medic, AutoHealing, Healing Kit, /save and /load, and luckily some more stuff. We'll see by the time what features are good/bad and we'll remove/add them as the time goes on.

81.44.181.242:23073 <- This is a home server, and I have dynamic IP, so tomorrow it won't be the same IP, however, I'll try to set it up in another computer I have, so it can be, more or less, 24/7.

Vermithrax · « **Reply #33 on:** July 06, 2009, 02:41:47 pm »

212.83.42.59 : 23075

I host now the scripted server 24/7/365 so go on with mapping

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And if there any bug's tell it Niko, i think he will fix it

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[EDIT] I think the auto heal should be only for 60% of youre health, for one time, and you have to standt still for 10seconds...[/EDIT]

Polifen · « **Reply #34 on:** July 06, 2009, 03:23:52 pm »

I set a server too

. Maybe Niko will upload these script on my server.

IP : 94.23.48.10
Port : 23080

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #35 on:** July 07, 2009, 12:15:20 am »

There are, wait, let me count, 4 SERVERS for this gamemode right now? Amazing speed

I won´t be able to finish this map today, but I guess it will be tommorow or the day after tommorow to do all the polygons I need for this map. Should there be a safe spot maybe?

_Why · « **Reply #36 on:** July 07, 2009, 12:39:23 am »

Quote from: DarkCrusade on July 07, 2009, 12:15:20 am

There are, wait, let me count, 4 SERVERS for this gamemode right now? Amazing speed

I won´t be able to finish this map today, but I guess it will be tommorow or the day after tommorow to do all the polygons I need for this map. Should there be a safe spot maybe?

Are you making a new map or working on The Devil's Cleft?

Also, game footage :x

http://vimeo.com/5485739

The Geologist · « **Reply #37 on:** July 07, 2009, 12:40:20 am »

Gotta get an account to see the video? :/

_Why · « **Reply #38 on:** July 07, 2009, 12:42:34 am »

Quote from: The Geologist on July 07, 2009, 12:40:20 am

Gotta get an account to see the video? :/

Augh, I took off privacy. It shouldn't be doing that. Hold on.

The Geologist · « **Reply #39 on:** July 07, 2009, 12:47:35 am »

Much better, and a much clearer idea of the general idea

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #40 on:** July 07, 2009, 01:30:40 am »

Video looks good

_Why · « **Reply #41 on:** July 07, 2009, 01:43:24 am »

Can someone set up an mIRC channel?
#mountaineers @ Quakenet

p0ppin · « **Reply #42 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:15:38 am »

Here's another game-play video, by yours truly

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m13Y0km1TaI

sorry for the crappy quality, not really sure how to get it any better for youtube...lol

_Why · « **Reply #43 on:** July 07, 2009, 05:56:48 am »

Quote from: p0ppin on July 07, 2009, 02:15:38 am

Here's another game-play video, by yours truly .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m13Y0km1TaI

sorry for the crappy quality, not really sure how to get it any better for youtube...lol

Enable embedding so I can put it on the WABSITE

Vermithrax · « **Reply #44 on:** July 07, 2009, 06:23:24 am »

3Servers with dynamic ip's !? Great!

I'm working on my nextmap all guys which made one, pls upload... Would be rly cool

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DarkCrusade · « **Reply #45 on:** July 07, 2009, 07:54:33 am »

Well, I am working on an ice-racing-mountain-über-super-duper-climbing-map

p0ppin · « **Reply #46 on:** July 07, 2009, 11:26:39 am »

Embedding IS enabled

MetsuriTossavainen · « **Reply #47 on:** July 07, 2009, 03:52:33 pm »

That video is well-made and the map looks challencing. Good job!

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #48 on:** July 08, 2009, 06:19:28 am »

-Why, I saw you made another mountain map (Devil, or not?) and I played it on Polifens mountain climbing server. It is very buggy and such things, but I think I can handle that and make it more beautiful

~Niko~ · « **Reply #49 on:** July 08, 2009, 07:12:22 am »

Redo it if you like, but remove the bugs. I played the v2 of your map and it had bugs where there weren't before.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #50 on:** July 08, 2009, 07:34:40 am »

Yes, that´s why there is a v3

_Why · « **Reply #51 on:** July 30, 2009, 08:17:59 pm »

Just an update for you guys, I've been really busy working with my business lately so it may have seemed like I gave up on this project, but I haven't. I updated the server with the AWESOME maps DarkCrusader and p0ppin made.

Vermithrax · « **Reply #52 on:** July 30, 2009, 08:41:30 pm »

Mountainclimb got no visitors anymore

... Polifen is on holidays, and i think he gave up like me.
Its useless to host the servers when no one join anymore, maybe there are 1or2 players all over the day.

If we dont get a good Idea how to get again such full servers i dunno what to do...

_Why · « **Reply #53 on:** July 30, 2009, 09:01:31 pm »

All we need is exciting maps that the majority of people can do, but still take a long time.

I think our focus for mountain climbing is to make jumps that everyone can make, but not everyone will take.

Jumps that'll make you doubt your jumping distance, or ability, etc. No fast climbing!

Vermithrax · « **Reply #54 on:** July 31, 2009, 08:35:48 am »

Yeah, i think thats right, but im no good mapper and i dunno where is darkcrusade :d... He's away for 1 1/2 weeks :d... And to poopin i dont get any contact

...

My mapping skills are rly worse, so dunno who can make maps which we need... (He/she should also know how to mountain climb =/...)

_Why · « **Reply #55 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:01:37 pm »

Well, like I did before, I can make the base map, but I need someone like DarkCrusader to rework it.

zakath · « **Reply #56 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:14:39 pm »

well you can find p0ppin at least hanging around in #soldat.mapping at quakenet if you need to get a hold of him or you can just pm him here at the forums.

Chariot · « **Reply #57 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:39:26 pm »

I think the missing element which drives most people away after one try is fun.

_Why · « **Reply #58 on:** July 31, 2009, 07:34:48 pm »

Quote from: Chariot on July 31, 2009, 05:39:26 pm

I think the missing element which drives most people away after one try is fun.

That's a subjective element.

Also, added scripts via A.R.S.S.E.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #59 on:** August 17, 2009, 10:36:59 am »

I have a good idea. Since I am no climbmapper and never will be one someone should do a first draft of polygons and I remake the map then without polybugs and with new looks. It is much work since I need to sketch it and redo all polygons and stuff but I´ll do it.

Polifen · « **Reply #60 on:** August 29, 2009, 07:32:25 am »

Hey guys

Last few days quite much ppl play mountain climbing ( on my server ), seems that mode is getting more popular like on the beginning. Dark, could you remake Tribal's map ( attached )?

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #61 on:** August 29, 2009, 09:50:51 am »

Well, I saw this very late, you should have sent this to me in a PM $:-\$ I will redo it if gameplay is good and it´s not only an icetower straight upside

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