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Do not jump on the bandwagon too quickly. Stay away from drama and gossip. That's the realm of women. As Men we should concentrate on Truth, Respect of one another and making good Work. Learn to separate those that work hard on creating something and those that just talk. EnEsCe is making a fine job with the new version, so if you really care about the game, wait for Soldat 1.5.1.
well, I don't see why you leave as an admin just because shoozza is going to take over... or what's actually going to happen.
He is. A good one among the many assholes in the world.
I bet this will have bigger consequences by the time...
Quote from: miketh2005 on July 10, 2009, 07:31:20 pmDonate to enesceHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Donate to enesce
"Soldat belongs to MM, not the community"Soldat is only where it is today because of this community and if we go the game is worthless. Thus continues the lack of understanding by artists that once you create something it becomes the worlds.
While I understand the reasons that you're proffering your resignation, EH, I must say that losing you as part of the administrative team may only add insult to injury after this entire unfortunate dilemma. You're clearly a valuable member of our community, and remaining in a position of leverage may help to influence things the right way.
Elephant Hunter...don't get sucked in. You're giving in too easily bro. Maybe Soldat Forums should have a poll: "Who do you think should be currently developing Soldat?" Options: EnEsCe or Shoozza.What you guys reckon?
Quote from: Michal Marcinkowski on July 02, 2009, 06:35:56 amDo not jump on the bandwagon too quickly. Stay away from drama and gossip. That's the realm of women. As Men we should concentrate on Truth, Respect of one another and making good Work. Learn to separate those that work hard on creating something and those that just talk. EnEsCe is making a fine job with the new version, so if you really care about the game, wait for Soldat 1.5.1.The TRUTH is that Shoozza has the source to Soldat. MM gave it to him.Why didn't Michal mention this before? Because Michal doesn't trust Enesce to know. Enesce wants to be the sole developer, and won't have any other developers working on Soldat.The TRUTH is, none of us trust Enesce.FliesLikeABrick. MM. The people who put him where he is.The TRUTH is, Enesce threatens other developersjrgp last week. Shoozza. Probably more. Nice choice, MM. Viva la Soldat.The TRUTH is, MM is legally required to open-source Soldat serverMM was legally bound to open-source Soldat server because he was compiling it with GPL Kylix. I brought this up to him, and he told me that he just hadn't got around to open-sourcing Soldat yet.He quickly started using commercial Kylix and now he completely denies he ever said this. He lied to me and to everybody.The TRUTH is, MM ignored the people who matter. And I am resigning.Unless MM can make good on his promises, trust the people who matter, and BE A MAN. The people wanted swift action. They were yours, Michal, and you let them all down. It is my hope that you right your wrongs and show us that you care.
And NSC and MM are secret gay lovers.... Just a theory.
(Sorry if I am unintelligent, since the knowledge I have only comes from a school text book...)
i hope this issue will not ruin the game esp. in IRC
This is a kids community, and the main whiz behind the scenes is a kid
Quote from: F4||3N on July 05, 2009, 03:51:47 amAnd NSC and MM are secret gay lovers.... Just a theory.Don't disrespect MM - he (still) is our lord and master and made this all possible.MM > Chuck Norris, Gsus, Pedobear, Michael J., Rambo, ...
I sense Soldat going down.
We NEED a team of dev's not one single coder on top of all of soldat. He CANNOT handle it all by himself, I wish I could just go back to 1.4.2...
He can. He's a fine and passionate coder. He just shouldn't have access to forum administration. Really, what did he do? Censor and insult people. Does this have anything to do with coding? No.
have you even read about what he did?
Quote from: homerofgods on July 05, 2009, 04:26:18 pmQuote from: Mittsu on July 05, 2009, 04:16:10 pmhave you even read about what he did?No, I just know he has done alot of good work on soldat. I can see there are some tings you are angry about, I just don't want you all to forget the good work, and try to resolve the matters in a good way, and not yell murder. He is not a demonIs there some huge things outside this topic I don't know? Found it: http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=35184.0;topicseenDid you at least the OP's post? You dumb f**k...This isn't about EnEsCe's work on soldat it's about a problem between him and shoozza you waste...READ THE EFING TOPICS BEFORE YOU POST.
Quote from: Mittsu on July 05, 2009, 04:16:10 pmhave you even read about what he did?No, I just know he has done alot of good work on soldat. I can see there are some tings you are angry about, I just don't want you all to forget the good work, and try to resolve the matters in a good way, and not yell murder. He is not a demonIs there some huge things outside this topic I don't know? Found it: http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=35184.0;topicseen
xurich, I do trust EnEsCe and the statement of MM that this was added for debug purposes ages ago (Hell, I think it even was me who reported this bug on the beta forums back then)
Last year, I dreamt I was pissing at a restroom, but I missed the urinal and my penis exploded.
Mittsu, you don't know if EnEsCe purposely "forgot" the line of code. Only EnEsCe does.
Look on the f*cking bright side, people.Not many people get to say, "Hey man, I play a game called soldat, where one of the devs is a maniac planning to take over the game."Yeah man, that's soldat.
Hahaha... you could turn that into a banner or some shit."Dude, Soldat's so awesome, we've got people fighting to be the developer!"
Because he didnt even knew that that line even existed.
From http://pastebin.com/f7fd0f04aSession Start: Thu Feb 12 22:25:32 2009[...]<Beanjo> i wonder if he uses that different version of soldat server on his US servers to make europants seem like they have lower ping :x<mafioza> probably[...]<Beanjo> :S<Beanjo> what kind of business practice is making it seem like you have a lower ping than you actually do<Beanjo> unethical, that's what![...]<mafioza> people complaint that servers are not showing real ping<EnEsCe> the problems never end on this server do they<mafioza> they think you did something to the soldatserver file<EnEsCe> pings are clientside, not serverside<mafioza> alright<mafioza> just saying what i heard<EnEsCe> who said that?<mafioza> some random people[...]<mafioza> i did test it tho<mafioza> i ran a server straight from ssh<mafioza> my ping was 100<mafioza> from php commander<mafioza> 50<EnEsCe> yep<EnEsCe> soldatmonitor?<mafioza> what about it<EnEsCe> I mean were you running with soldatmonitor<mafioza> no<mafioza> just regular<EnEsCe> mk[...]<Beanjo> i see enesce is using the same host with the same fake ping servers :]]]]]<mafioza> yeap<mafioza> :D[...]<Beanjo> have you tried running a server with it?<mafioza> yea<mafioza> it worked<Beanjo> was the ping lower?<mafioza> yes
According to his deleting and banning: forget about it, he raged out, that's all...
Even if EnEsCe is making a mistake or two, I'm still defending him for all his hard work. Nobody's perfect. I think if I was in his shoes and suddenly expected to share what I put thousands of hours into, I might be hesitant doing so right away as well. I'm also going to point out that he's released 3 f**king betas for the community to test and help fix bugs and barely anyone contributed. No one I've seen has taken that into account. However a lot have contributed in the b***hing and whining department, when 1.5.0 had new bugs. Then, everyone could contribute all of a sudden... with anger, whining, b***hing, flaming, etc.
I feel like an old man waiting around helplessly as all of his veteran buddies get picked off by cancer. All I can do is sit around and remember the good ol' days.
WHY did he rage out? There hasn't been an acceptable excuse for his raging. There was no reason for him to act in a "blind rage."
If he can provide a legitimate excuse as to why he raged, that may change my opinion. Am I not allowed to seek answers anymore?
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yeah. remember when we used to photoshop pictures of enesce because he was the hacker scourge of so-oh wait, not helping, am I.(btw that's totally irrelevant right now, but THOSE where the good ol' days indeed.)
Quote from: Demonic on July 06, 2009, 06:47:23 pmyeah. remember when we used to photoshop pictures of enesce because he was the hacker scourge of so-oh wait, not helping, am I.(btw that's totally irrelevant right now, but THOSE where the good ol' days indeed.)Let's see them. Now seems like a more appropriate time than ever.
Quote from: ds dude on July 05, 2009, 06:31:53 pmLook on the f*cking bright side, people.Not many people get to say, "Hey man, I play a game called soldat, where one of the devs is a maniac planning to take over the game."Yeah man, that's soldat.Quote from: SpiltCoffee on July 05, 2009, 07:53:42 pmHahaha... you could turn that into a banner or some s**t."Dude, Soldat's so awesome, we've got people fighting to be the developer!"We shall rename "Rambomatch" to "Developermatch"!Disclaimer: This image is not intended to offend anyone, only for entertainment and as an idea on what a game mode of people fighting for a position would be like. Take it down if it hurts anyone.EDIT:Forgot to say this, but while some of the characters are made to resemble certain people, others are not. The developer in the middle of the picture, the blue man with a chainsaw (is just a bot called Boogie Man), the guy being zapped - these guys are NOT made to resemble any real people, it's entirely coincidental if they are.
Hahaha... you could turn that into a banner or some s**t."Dude, Soldat's so awesome, we've got people fighting to be the developer!"
I had a nice post written up but comment submission got screwed up and it all got delorted.Anyway. I also would like to say Enesce, I appreciate all the hard work you’ve put into Soldat. Also, please don’t ever ever conider again to resign, just because a bunch of pissy demanding NON-REGISTERED NON-PAYING, PLAYING SOLDAT FOR FREE noobs get angry at you. Let them b***h till they’re blue in the face and die from b***hing. They know not and cannot appreciate your dedication.
Quote from: Shinobars on July 06, 2009, 08:39:06 pmIf he can provide a legitimate excuse as to why he raged, that may change my opinion. Am I not allowed to seek answers anymore?He has provided a reason as to why he did that (although it does not excuse his actions from being bad).
You said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat
Quote from: homerofgods on July 07, 2009, 01:42:51 pmYou said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat Explain...Cause I lost you at "rewrote"...
Quote from: demoniac93 on July 07, 2009, 05:38:11 pmQuote from: homerofgods on July 07, 2009, 01:42:51 pmYou said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat Explain...Cause I lost you at "rewrote"...demoniac93 is just out to get me. If you don't understand the word use a dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rewroteYes I mean the code (game). If he had written soldat again he would have done it in a much better way and we would have a much better game, and less bugs. It's theoretically possible for him to do it, but he won't be like writing a whole new game, since it's so messy that he can't just fix some small parts of it.@topic:There is a lot of frustration because of long time between updates, bugs, and the situation as a whole. It sounds like you want a revolution and replace Enesce with someone else or something, but I think doing something like that is much more likely to kill soldat. I'd say we just have to put up with Enesce's careface and be patient. Good that you bring up important issues as this though, they must be resolved to keep the trust up between developers and players. When 1.5.1 comes we will probably be saved for a while.
Quote from: demoniac93 on July 07, 2009, 05:38:11 pmQuote from: homerofgods on July 07, 2009, 01:42:51 pmYou said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat Explain...Cause I lost you at "rewrote"...demoniac93 is just out to get me....