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Offline ElephantHunter

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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #80 on: July 07, 2009, 12:30:07 pm »
From Snow's comment on Enesce's Blog:

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I had a nice post written up but comment submission got screwed up and it all got delorted.

Anyway. I also would like to say Enesce, I appreciate all the hard work you’ve put into Soldat. Also, please don’t ever ever conider again to resign, just because a bunch of pissy demanding NON-REGISTERED NON-PAYING, PLAYING SOLDAT FOR FREE noobs get angry at you. Let them b***h till they’re blue in the face and die from b***hing. They know not and cannot appreciate your dedication.

Enesce is a dedicated developer. I agree; he's done more than anybody else to help Soldat. Nobody is denying that. I'm glad that Soldat has server scripting and a dozen other awesome features. It's actually pretty cool compared to the old days.

It's just, well... I'm tired of waiting for Soldat to open up GPL-style. Maybe I've been working this entire time under the impression that open-source was MM's end goal for Soldat, and barking up the wrong tree. Maybe I need to take a different route. What's that famous line? "If you want something done right, do it yourself."

And I'll have you know that I registered Soldat twice :P
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #81 on: July 07, 2009, 01:38:08 pm »
Well, again, as you know, you were never the target of my rants or comments. I do relate to how you feel about waiting for Soldat to open up, but as Enesce once said, the code is still so messy that fixing one bug usually causes another bug to pop up. So even as much as Enesce has been improving and adding to the code, it may still be such a large mess that would take a good while to explain to new developers and then organize a plan and organize everyone to be able to work on the source and continually test new revisions.

Though, that is as much as I know. As in terms of who feels what about who and what, it's not my business. I just get upset with a good chunk of the community who decide to crap on NSC and either do not know what he has contributed so far or do not care. As in terms of personal decisions on behalf of NSC, chat with him some more. Try and get a "round table" going on the future of Soldat development with him, Shoozza, MM and whoever else. I cannot see that not being possible.

Anyhow that's as much as I can say.
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #82 on: July 07, 2009, 01:42:51 pm »
You said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.
ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat :P
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #83 on: July 07, 2009, 02:34:14 pm »
If he can provide a legitimate excuse as to why he raged, that may change my opinion. Am I not allowed to seek answers anymore?
He has provided a reason as to why he did that (although it does not excuse his actions from being bad).

Show me? I haven't seen it, and I think I'm up to date on the NSC threads.

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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #84 on: July 07, 2009, 05:38:11 pm »
You said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.
ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat :P

Explain...Cause I lost you at "rewrote"...
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #85 on: July 07, 2009, 05:49:23 pm »
To start writing the code (game) again from the beginning.
Or homer meant something else?
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #86 on: July 07, 2009, 05:50:55 pm »
yea but still, what does it have to do with anything here  :P
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2009, 05:55:48 pm »
You said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.
ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat :P

Explain...Cause I lost you at "rewrote"...
demoniac93 is just out to get me. If you don't understand the word use a dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rewrote
Yes I mean the code (game). 
If he had written soldat again he would have done it in a much better way and we would have a much better game, and less bugs. It's theoretically possible for him to do it, but he won't be like writing a whole new game, since it's so messy that he can't just fix some small parts of it.

@topic:
There is a lot of frustration because of long time between updates, bugs, and the situation as a whole. It sounds like you want a revolution and replace Enesce with someone else or something, but I think doing something like that is much more likely to kill soldat. I'd say we just have to put up with Enesce's careface and be patient. Good that you bring up important issues as this though, they must be resolved to keep the trust up between developers and players.
When 1.5.1 comes we will probably be saved for a while.
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #88 on: July 07, 2009, 06:07:53 pm »
You said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.
ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat :P

Explain...Cause I lost you at "rewrote"...
demoniac93 is just out to get me. If you don't understand the word use a dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rewrote
Yes I mean the code (game). 
If he had written soldat again he would have done it in a much better way and we would have a much better game, and less bugs. It's theoretically possible for him to do it, but he won't be like writing a whole new game, since it's so messy that he can't just fix some small parts of it.
@topic:
There is a lot of frustration because of long time between updates, bugs, and the situation as a whole. It sounds like you want a revolution and replace Enesce with someone else or something, but I think doing something like that is much more likely to kill soldat. I'd say we just have to put up with Enesce's careface and be patient. Good that you bring up important issues as this though, they must be resolved to keep the trust up between developers and players.
When 1.5.1 comes we will probably be saved for a while.


so you think this situation is caused by bugs in soldat ? This is pure ignorance...
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #89 on: July 07, 2009, 06:39:40 pm »
You said exactly what I feel about the case Snow.
ah man, how awsum would it be if MM returned and rewrote soldat :P

Explain...Cause I lost you at "rewrote"...
demoniac93 is just out to get me....


I know what the word means, it's called sarcasm, boy.
And he wouldn't rewrite it all from scratch cause he'd never find the time for that, not now that he's sunk in Link Dead anyways...
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2009, 04:01:31 am »
Amen to that.
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #91 on: July 09, 2009, 01:14:07 am »
This topic has just about reached the beginning of it's uselessness.

And if EH was really "resigning," he would have already.

edit: eC should burn in cyber hell for the crimes he has committed.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2009, 01:43:09 am by jrgp »
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #92 on: July 11, 2009, 02:04:05 pm »
Maybe I thought somebody else would man up and do it. Anyway, I've taken the step of changing my status to "Retired Administrator".
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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #93 on: July 11, 2009, 05:39:00 pm »
I hope you're simply retiring rather than leaving us indefinitely. You are one of the few members of this forum for which I have an immense amount of respect.

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Re: The Last Straw, and my Resignation
« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2009, 08:42:09 pm »
Ffs, you kidding me lee? Anyway, good luck on the other side. I hope you continue contributing to soldat official stuff. I hate to see you leave too.
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