Author Topic: Barrett is underpowered. (Read 31701 times)

Neosano · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2009, 02:32:22 pm »

I'm not saying that the delay must be deleted. Sorry for disappointing. I just have to inform that Barrett must be improved somehow!

~Niko~ · « **Reply #21 on:** July 09, 2009, 03:19:58 pm »

You HAVEN'T GOT TO PUT THE CURSOR WHERE THE ENEMIES ARE TO HIT THEM.

Maybe is that why you fail so much.

homerofgods · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:38:10 pm »

Barret is useful in for example Nuubia and in 1 vs 1's. You can predict where enemies come and get them as sitting ducks, you can even learn to kill even when binked, and it's good for some situations.
Maybe you should re-think how you use sniper and realise you can't use it all the time and whine about underpower. It's hard to master so if you don't like it, pick another gun.

Neosano · « **Reply #23 on:** July 09, 2009, 05:15:09 pm »

Playing with it for 6 years, I know where I should put the cursor and I can kill even binked. And I still think that it is underpowered, at least a bit.

~Niko~ · « **Reply #24 on:** July 09, 2009, 06:02:17 pm »

If you can kill even being binked, why this:

Quote from: Neosano on July 08, 2009, 05:01:17 pm

BUT NOT THAT F***ING HARD!

Anyways, I also admit that it's hard to handle. of course it is, but it would be even harder if we got it changed, because though it may suck a bit, we know how to use it now.

Neosano · « **Reply #25 on:** July 09, 2009, 08:30:20 pm »

Quote from: ~Niko~ on July 09, 2009, 06:02:17 pm

If you can kill even being binked, why this:
Quote from: Neosano on July 08, 2009, 05:01:17 pm
BUT NOT THAT F***ING HARD!

Anyways, I also admit that it's hard to handle. of course it is, but it would be even harder if we got it changed, because though it may suck a bit, we know how to use it now.

We will relearn! We did it already when start time was added... it wasn't that hard.

8th_account · « **Reply #26 on:** July 09, 2009, 10:57:48 pm »

Fear not, Neosano. The Barret will likely get buffed for 1.5.1.

Dusty · « **Reply #27 on:** July 10, 2009, 04:39:41 am »

Ja sounds good. I didn't find it underpowered at all.

STM1993 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 10, 2009, 05:04:02 am »

Quote from: 8th_account on July 09, 2009, 10:57:48 pm

Fear not, Neosano. The Barret will likely get buffed for 1.5.1.

Hurray!

Though the question is, how will the Barrett be buffed?

~Niko~ · « **Reply #29 on:** July 10, 2009, 05:14:00 am »

less delay between shots? that would be nice

demoniac93 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 10, 2009, 06:11:59 am »

Quote from: STM1993 on July 10, 2009, 05:04:02 am

Quote from: 8th_account on July 09, 2009, 10:57:48 pm
Fear not, Neosano. The Barret will likely get buffed for 1.5.1.
Hurray!

Though the question is, how will the Barrett be buffed?

My hopes are the same as yours STM, less start up an higher interval...

8th_account · « **Reply #31 on:** July 10, 2009, 08:18:09 am »

I'm gonna get totally flamed but whatever.

// Barrett reload -220, bink -20

STM1993 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 10, 2009, 08:30:54 am »

Quote from: 8th_account on July 10, 2009, 08:18:09 am

I'm gonna get totally flamed but whatever.

// Barrett reload -220, bink -20

Whoa. You're thinking of removing almost all of the reload time and reducing the bink? That'd mean:

[Barret M82A1]
Damage=495
FireInterval=225
Ammo=10
ReloadTime=80
Speed=550
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=25
Bink=80
MovementAcc=7
Recoil=0

Aye, not a bad solution for the reload because once the Barrett has fired 10 shots, you're as good as dead, that limits the Barrett. Plus, total reload time is 225 + 80 = 305. Originally it would have been 225 + 300 = 525.

I'm not so sure about the bink though. As for the fireinterval and startup, maybe 10 ticks faster so that the minimum total delay between two shots is 240 like it was in older versions. Currently the minimum total delay is 250.

8th_account · « **Reply #33 on:** July 10, 2009, 08:48:37 am »

Quote

As for the fireinterval and startup, maybe 10 ticks faster so that the minimum total delay between two shots is 240 like it was in older versions. Currently the minimum total delay is 250.

Hmm? The minimum total interval was 240 + 25 in older versions. In 1.5 this was lowered to 225 + 25.

STM1993 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 10, 2009, 09:21:27 am »

Quote from: 8th_account on July 10, 2009, 08:48:37 am

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As for the fireinterval and startup, maybe 10 ticks faster so that the minimum total delay between two shots is 240 like it was in older versions. Currently the minimum total delay is 250.

Hmm? The minimum total interval was 240 + 25 in older versions. In 1.5 this was lowered to 225 + 25.

I mean:

Before there was startup, it was 240 only.
When there was startup, it was 240+25=265
Currently, it is 225+25=250

Why not make the minimum total fireinterval back to 240 by tweaking the fireinterval/startup time (such as 215+25=240)? The minimum total delay of the Barrett being 240 was good then, it's just that the startup time wasn't there before. Besides, the pace is getting really fast and there would be a need to speed up the firing rate.

~Niko~ · « **Reply #35 on:** July 10, 2009, 09:34:20 am »

Who does ever reload the barrett? You are dead at that time already.

MetsuriTossavainen · « **Reply #36 on:** July 10, 2009, 09:37:17 am »

Quote from: ~Niko~ on July 10, 2009, 09:34:20 am

Who does ever reload the barrett? You are dead at that time already.

That's true. I use Barrett a lot and I have noticed that there is 1/10 chance that you'll survive so long that you are able to reload the gun.

STM1993 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 10, 2009, 09:37:37 am »

Quote from: ~Niko~ on July 10, 2009, 09:34:20 am

Who does ever reload the barrett? You are dead at that time already.

True, sadly true. Then again, for those who actually survive (very few ever do), this is a reason why you would reload your Barrett and doesn't limit the Barrett to strictly 10 shots and die.

The reload buff is not enough but should be implemented. I'm stressing on the fireinterval and startup time in particular.

~Niko~ · « **Reply #38 on:** July 10, 2009, 10:11:17 am »

Startup time could be lowered, bink too, but don't touch again the MovAcc, it took so long to get used to it...

STM1993 · « **Reply #39 on:** July 10, 2009, 10:44:38 am »

Quote from: ~Niko~ on July 10, 2009, 10:11:17 am

Startup time could be lowered, bink too, but don't touch again the MovAcc, it took so long to get used to it...

Movementacc will never again be touched, that's for sure.

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Author Topic: Barrett is underpowered. (Read 31701 times)