Barrett is underpowered.

[Ziem]

Anicsin I was talking about normal mode :q

As for folks who like to complain about the barrett not being able to compete with other guns...well, why not just choose another gun for the situation?  Pretty logical choice really.  Kinda like bringing a knife to a gun fight if you're up against heavy auto users.  Nature of the beast, just pick a more suitable weapon for the time.

The point of weapon balance is having all weapons equally useful, and now barret isn't a weapon which is worth using - apart from pubs people rarely use it. It sucks on small maps compared to spas/mp5/m79, and sucks on bigger maps because gay minimi spray>all.

How is the current bink system flawed?  Simply curious and looking for a good reason.

There's always 1/3 chance of getting perfect shot no matter how binked you are, it's a bit dumb.

[xurich]

There's always 1/3 chance of getting perfect shot no matter how binked you are, it's a bit dumb.

If you're close enough there may be a 1/3rd chance. Smart players aren't going to let you get right up next to them with a barret though, so that 1/3rd chance goes down significantly the farther away you are.

[8th_account]

I'm affraid you're wrong, xurich. There's always a 1 in 3 chance of firing exactly where you're aiming, despite how much much you're binked. It sounds so insane that it's hard to grasp, but that's how bink and selfbink in Soldat works.

[xurich]

Oh, my bad then. I had no idea. Is it a bug or is it intended?

[croat1gamer]

He asked if it is flawed, not mentioned it:

How is the current bink system flawed?  Simply curious and looking for a good reason.

[D4NG3R NL]

Speed should increase a little so should the damage.

[biohazard]

nowadasy Barret has delay even in scope (duck/prone). In early versions it used to own, and i think it used to got more range on scope and work instatly right when u crouch.

[-Major-]

only diffrence was the start up time. and there's no diffrence between crouching zoom, nor was it ever delay while standing but no delay while crouching.

also... yes, little less bink, less start up time and more dmg.

[biohazard]

there is difference on early version zoom to this one and i am not meaning the delay based on weapon.ini startup, its something hardcoded. I mean when all used to play even DM with barret, idk if you played that oldest version anyway, i dont remember the number, the one which we got no trail on bullet and nades.  Btw, even the 1.2.1 is new to my brain and i barely played the 1.3.xit, so i am not that expert to confirm it.

[lorinser]

Well well, to me, the barret is pretty balanced now, if you aim good, you kill it for good =)
Anyways, I've been a sniper player in all FPS games I've played, and the barret stay on the rule!
ONE SHOT ONE KILL!

[Shard]

I still see loads of people using the barret, and doing quite well with it. I think, that removing startup while in scope would be a good move though. It would make it better for long range shots. I'd say just lower the start up time marginally, and give it enough damage to one shot kill on matter what.

[-Major-]

Well well, to me, the barret is pretty balanced now, if you aim good, you kill it for good =)
Anyways, I've been a sniper player in all FPS games I've played, and the barret stay on the rule!
ONE SHOT ONE KILL!

sniper is ussualy 2 shot 1 kill tho ;o

[The Bone Collector]

I'm going to input my opinions on the Barrett. I've only just come back to the fold in the last few months and began playing Soldat again. It's changed heaps since my days in 1.4, and I'm liking a few of the changes, not liking others. Changes like the Steyr only having 25 bullets in a clip (Who's bright idea was that?), The M79 having start-up time and seemingly no bink (or is that just me?). I don't often use more than the Mp5, The AK and The ruger, but I feel that the autos are the weapons that need work in the balancing area.

You Barrettards need to stop whining about how underpowered everything is, and work on your skills. To prove a point, I used to Barrett all the time in my clanning days, and back then, the only problems I ran into... was not being able to compensate for bink when firing. Barretts obviously don't belong in small maps, and only a skilled player will be able to assault using one (and I've seen it done!). Learn to compensate for bink (i.e, aim a few centimetres below the target when they're unloading on you) and you will hit them everytime. Or, when you go into close quarters, whip out your knife/Saw/Socom and deal it that way. Most Barrett users don't realise that the Socom is the best weapon to accompany you as a sniper. It's well powered, and can stand up to any M79 and auto user when in the right hands.

Suck it up. If you keep whining, the weapons balance team will make this game unplayable. As it stands, the game has lost popularity because of WAY TOO MUCH modifying of the original simple game. We need to take it back to the days of simplicity... then we'll get the players back

[10th_account]

[...] The M79 having start-up time and seemingly no bink (or is that just me?). [...]

I'm guessing you were playing on a 1.5 server running the 1.5.1 beta balance for whatever reason. In the beta version of Soldat aim lag replaces startup for evaluation purposes.

Thanks for the input though, TBC.

[lorinser]

Well well, to me, the barret is pretty balanced now, if you aim good, you kill it for good =)
Anyways, I've been a sniper player in all FPS games I've played, and the barret stay on the rule!
ONE SHOT ONE KILL!

sniper is ussualy 2 shot 1 kill tho ;o

No, I dont think you'd survive with a shot on your chest, or head

[darDar]

let me answer quickly: NO its not.

[kzya]

yes it is. people barely use barret in ctf(especially in leagues) because its useless as f**k

[-Major-]

Well well, to me, the barret is pretty balanced now, if you aim good, you kill it for good =)
Anyways, I've been a sniper player in all FPS games I've played, and the barret stay on the rule!
ONE SHOT ONE KILL!

sniper is ussualy 2 shot 1 kill tho ;o

No, I dont think you'd survive with a shot on your chest, or head

in games it's ussualy 1 headshot or 2 body shots to kill... why the hell would you compare real life to a game?
I don't think you would survive 8 minimi shots to the head either...

[demoniac93]

Well well, to me, the barret is pretty balanced now, if you aim good, you kill it for good =)
Anyways, I've been a sniper player in all FPS games I've played, and the barret stay on the rule!
ONE SHOT ONE KILL!

sniper is ussualy 2 shot 1 kill tho ;o

No, I dont think you'd survive with a shot on your chest, or head

in games it's ussualy 1 headshot or 2 body shots to kill... why the hell would you compare real life to a game?
I don't think you would survive 8 minimi shots to the head either...

Socom takes what? 5 bullets to the head to kill at close range?
In real life a bullet fired from a Socom at minimum distance will blow half of your brain mass out your head.

[The Bone Collector]

What the hell... are you guys playing on laggy servers or something? Barrett snaps any soldat in half in one shot. I've only had problems with the Barrett and not being a one hitter during lag spikes.
And the Socom used to be great as a standalone weapon (PWNing noobs with just the socom was fun) but now its a peashooter, only good for binking the hell out of a barretard while your backup comes to mow him down...