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What is the best weapon in soldat

DE's
12 (6.1%)
MP5
7 (3.6%)
AK
15 (7.7%)
Steyer
24 (12.2%)
Spas
21 (10.7%)
Rugar
13 (6.6%)
M79
8 (4.1%)
Barret
30 (15.3%)
Minimi
25 (12.8%)
Minigun
4 (2%)
Socom
3 (1.5%)
Knife
9 (4.6%)
Saw
6 (3.1%)
LAW
4 (2%)
Fists lol
15 (7.7%)

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Offline tehsnipah

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2010, 11:37:03 pm »
Best weapon? There isn't one. How ''good'' the weapon is depends on how you use it.
(even the minigun :P)



God I hate this Soldat cliche
cuz it isn't true. Minimi is soldats current best weapon. the 2nd lamest too.
It's not really lame, because it's a little rare players using Minimi. And I'm still gonna disagree to Minimi as the best weapon.
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2010, 05:54:30 am »
It's not really lame, because it's a little rare players using Minimi. And I'm still gonna disagree to Minimi as the best weapon.

Not familiar with the competitive scene? Minimi ruled the SCTFL.

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2010, 07:00:25 am »
Any long-ranged auto with at least decent accuracy and high damage per second is very powerful and easy to use. Add in a large ammo capacity and you get an overpowered weapon - that's the FN Minimi.

Hell, it needs only 8 shots to kill, fireinterval 9 which is actually pretty fast, 270 bullet speed which is incredibly high, 50 ammo, and its bink/movementacc is nothing. The reload time doesn't make up for any of these at all. Not to mention the Minimi is essentially a super AK.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 07:05:08 am by STM1993 »

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2010, 08:36:28 am »
Any long-ranged auto with at least decent accuracy and high damage per second is very powerful and easy to use. Add in a large ammo capacity and you get an overpowered weapon - that's the FN Minimi.

Hell, it needs only 8 shots to kill, fireinterval 9 which is actually pretty fast, 270 bullet speed which is incredibly high, 50 ammo, and its bink/movementacc is nothing. The reload time doesn't make up for any of these at all. Not to mention the Minimi is essentially a super AK.

Yeah, not to mention that at close range it can beat both the mp5 and the spas if you have even half decent dodging skills.
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2010, 11:16:18 am »
I still think to be as good as you say it needs skill to use. At close range the mp5 is hard tp beat, same with spass. M79 within its arc is a pain.but back off and the minimi can take all of them.

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2010, 11:58:43 am »
Minimi is the queen of autos, just easy to figure out.

Deagles are close range(but lose to m79/spas/mp5/nade/all guns+punch). Almost the same DPS as socon, reload twice slower and fire rate twice slower(to bink against barretards) shot 2 hits where 1 of them may not hit and dont register lots of hits due Soldat stupid netcode... and DO NOT PUSH. In 1.5.1 all s**ts got no movacc and bink, so oficially Deagles are the worstest weapon, even socon is better.
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2010, 04:56:11 pm »
What's worstest? And what's a socon?
And I don't think a Minimi should be called a she.
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2010, 04:58:23 pm »
What's worstest? And what's a socon?
...

And I don't think a Minimi should be called a she.
People do so in real life aswell. Same thing with boats, cars and other important items.

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2010, 05:06:32 pm »
What's worstest? And what's a socon?
And I don't think a Minimi should be called a she.

Just emphasizing how worst it is actually. Socom whatever.
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2010, 05:42:13 pm »
well i'm casting my vote on the mp5.
because i know for a fact it has fast reload, and its seriously deadly if u can aim real well with it,
one clip, with the controlled bink and fast shots, can kill about 3 players on one clip if you're good with aim
the ruger is good too tho...
but i mostly go for the socom and mp5...
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2010, 06:49:29 pm »
What's worstest? And what's a socon?
...

And I don't think a Minimi should be called a she.
People do so in real life aswell. Same thing with boats, cars and other important items.

But calling a gun a she is just plain weird...
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #71 on: January 05, 2010, 09:13:08 pm »
What's worstest? And what's a socon?
...

And I don't think a Minimi should be called a she.
People do so in real life aswell. Same thing with boats, cars and other important items.

But calling a gun a she is just plain weird...
@Bio: Who you calling young? :O
no... it's just as much used...

either way, the fireinterval makes mp5 highly in accurate (one bullet go high the other low) unless you prone or crouch, and it's still hard to adjust your aim between standing and prone, so it's fairly hard to use.

while minimi is easy as shit to aim with and use, there's absolutely nothing to master in it... except the basic... to actually beable to follow a target with your crosshair....
« Last Edit: January 05, 2010, 09:15:09 pm by -Major- »

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2010, 03:17:06 am »
What's worstest? And what's a socon?
...

And I don't think a Minimi should be called a she.
People do so in real life aswell. Same thing with boats, cars and other important items.

But calling a gun a she is just plain weird...
@Bio: Who you calling young? :O
no... it's just as much used...

either way, the fireinterval makes mp5 highly in accurate (one bullet go high the other low) unless you prone or crouch, and it's still hard to adjust your aim between standing and prone, so it's fairly hard to use.

while minimi is easy as s**t to aim with and use, there's absolutely nothing to master in it... except the basic... to actually beable to follow a target with your crosshair....

I've found leading someone to be the easiest with the Minimi, then came the AK, then the Steyr, Barrett, Deagles, then Mp5...
The weapon balance sucks.
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2010, 04:58:00 am »
Let's make every single weapon in Soldat f**king overpowered!

Deagles killing in 2 shots.
An MP5 that kills in 7 shots and has a reload of 95.
A 40-ammo AK that kills in 6 shots at a fireinterval of 10.
An Aug with 30 ammo that kills in 8 shots.
Spas killing in 1 shot.
M79 dealing almost no self-damage.
Ruger always killing in 2 shots.
Barrett that has no startup.
FN Minimi that doesn't need to reload.
Socom killing in 5 shots.
Knife always killing as long as it hits.
LAW that has no startup and a very short reload.

That's (in an exaggerated manner) pretty much how to solve the weapons balance problem.

Otherwise...
just dump in the original 1.2.1 weapons balance into 1.5.1 - no modifications to it. Then we'll see. Besides, not everyone actually played 1.2.1 before and those who haven't always wondered why people felt 1.2.1 was the best.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 05:36:26 am by STM1993 »

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2010, 05:44:56 am »
1.2.1 wm is lacking of inaccuracy, its sux, but with a nice DMG output. Its simple to balance, 1.2.1 DMG output, 1.5 other attributes with minor balances.

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2010, 06:00:40 am »
Forgive me for my previous post, was a little frustrated then.

Anyway...
1.2.1 wm is lacking of inaccuracy, its sux, but with a nice DMG output. Its simple to balance, 1.2.1 DMG output, 1.5 other attributes with minor balances.
That's pretty much it though. Autos should have a bit of inaccuracy, not be completely free from them.

Deagles should be like in 1.2.1 except without any bink or movementacc.
MP5 deserves more damage.
AK might be fine, just boost the damage.
No comments for Aug.
Beta's Spas looks fine.
Beta M79 looks fine.
Ruger, I'm suggesting to keep it as it is; it's actually very good right now.
Beta Barrett is fine.

I'm more concerned about Minimi.

Minimi's got a good rate of fire, good damage (8 shots), high bullet speed (270), accurate and a large ammo capacity of 50 ammo - that makes it overpowered. Reload isn't enough to make up. Somehow the Minimi is like an Aug with double the ammo, and the beta version of the gun makes that even more apparent. You can also say it's a terrible hybrid of Aug and AK.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 06:10:48 am by STM1993 »

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2010, 05:18:16 pm »
Minigun and HK.
Id also throw in the spas cuz i love shotguns and the USsocom. the USsocom actually saved my butt quite a few times ;D

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #77 on: January 17, 2010, 06:23:44 pm »
It's rather funny that when I use Minimi, it just doesn't feel right as when I use Ak....

I also do better with Ak then Minimi.... I wonder why...
But best weapon also depends on maps, so I'm still not deciding.
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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #78 on: January 18, 2010, 04:16:54 pm »
I think the Dealges are awesome, good ammo, range fire rate and kills in 3-2 shots.

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Re: Best Weapon In Soldat
« Reply #79 on: January 18, 2010, 05:02:04 pm »
I think the Dealges are awesome, good ammo, range fire rate and kills in 3-2 shots.

No them arent, socom is better. Almost same DPS as us socom, 50% slower fire rate(no bink at all), 50% slower reload, almost the same range. Do not push, do not boost, do not  shake screen(rly annoying). Shoot two bullet, which means it eat alots of hits due the poor netcode(better if shot 1 bullet as old versions).

The only purpose on playing semi is the killing aspect. Ranges:
Ruger = long
Deagle = mid
Spas = close
But deagles fail at her gameplay due low DPS nowadays s**t WM and the prolly next one which will fail even more due the lost of all inacuracy on autos.
Please, who ever played a FPS game or similar where autos got that monstruous accuracy like the beta WM?
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