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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #100 on: September 12, 2009, 12:38:51 pm »
YAY! FINALLY updated, I wish $able would post here of what he did, but he prob won't since it could lead to a bypass. I just wonder how many of the hacks are detected now, I hope that one big public one is detected, I can finally stop worrying about hackers in my server.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #101 on: September 12, 2009, 12:42:39 pm »
We should at least keep hacks from spreading like wildfire!

And the best way of doing that is to not draw attention to them. :P
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #102 on: September 12, 2009, 12:44:53 pm »
Dude, why do you keep changing your avar and sig, lol. I like the avatar, not the sig. Your PM is dirty O.o




Meh, I don't think that small post will make more hackers :/
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #103 on: September 12, 2009, 01:07:25 pm »
ok... there is something wrong with my computer when the BE messages come up. It starts my Dell Webcam Center all the time...

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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #104 on: September 12, 2009, 01:27:43 pm »
I won't go into a flame of BattlEye, but any spam is bad spam and even if it's just leftover de-bugging material (which it doesn't seem to be...), it's still spam and that's bad. Get my drift?

It's no spam, it's a regular information about the player that joined. For example it contains the player ID that can be used to kick the player via BE later. In other games it also includes the BE GUID.

That's not quite true, is it. For example, a player 12 joined the server, thus filling it, with a BattlEye player ID of 1. Then someone leaves and someone else joins and fills the server with an ID of 2. Then a few people leave and someone else joins and oh look, he has an ID of 1.

Secondly, how is something that is meaningless to anything but BattlEye (in fact, seemingly meaningless to it too) not spamming the console?

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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #105 on: September 12, 2009, 08:30:55 pm »
You can probably script it to remove it...

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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #106 on: September 12, 2009, 08:42:44 pm »
You can probably script it to remove it...

I did... BattlEye_Anti_Cheat=0 :P

But in all seriousness, it shouldn't be there to begin with, so there shouldn't have to be a dedicated script to remove it.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #107 on: September 12, 2009, 08:49:17 pm »
Sable, did this BE update actually change any cheat detection. From what I can tell all cheats still worked and the only change is the extra console messages

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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #108 on: September 12, 2009, 09:01:06 pm »
Sable, did this BE update actually change any cheat detection. From what I can tell all cheats still worked and the only change is the extra console messages

Yeah, and it seemed to work fine for me. Strange how it broke several installations, or so I heard.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #109 on: September 15, 2009, 04:46:09 pm »
Hmm indeed.
It has been upgraded to v.1.049 now!?

I wonder if it actually worked out..

I only want to know if actually more anti hack protection has been added.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #110 on: September 15, 2009, 05:23:18 pm »
Me too. That would be great.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #111 on: September 15, 2009, 05:38:16 pm »
Afaik there was a bug in BE which was the reason for corrupted demo files and $able fixed that.
Dunno what else has been fixed but I read that some people had problems after the first update which he fixed once he knew about them.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #112 on: September 15, 2009, 06:01:25 pm »
I haven't noticed a difference! Did it auto update?
I thought I saw a message in the server.

But all the same hackers are using the exact same hacks.
Last time I checked, pressing demo kicks you from the game!
hmmm!

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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #113 on: September 15, 2009, 09:13:33 pm »
Son of a bitch, I warned EnEsCe or jrgp about this happening few months ago! It's just sad that I didn't have the proof  -_-

So damn, it really did happen huh....
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #114 on: September 15, 2009, 09:20:29 pm »
Son of a b***h, I warned EnEsCe or jrgp about this happening few months ago! It's just sad that I didn't have the proof 
Wait, what?
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #115 on: September 15, 2009, 09:24:57 pm »
Don't you remember the PM I sent you?

I don't know FLAB or EnEsCe that well, so I decided to tell you.

I'm not positive, but there is something wrong, really wrong in 1.5. I saw a player spawning where ever he wants in a CTF map. We kept killing him, but he spawns back close to our base. It didn't seem like a bug, because that would only happen once. It actually looked more like a hack.

I'm sensing that some people passed through the Battle Eye; and it will be wise to get a new version of anti-hack detector(?).

I know I'm not allowed to make a thread about this, so I decided to PM a moderator. You were close to FLAB and an understanding person.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #116 on: September 15, 2009, 09:29:28 pm »
Oh, my Spidey sense is tingling! 

Wait, no...just my obvious sense.

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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #117 on: September 15, 2009, 09:36:20 pm »
tehsnipah, oh, right, yeah.

Thing is, the soldat hacking "community" always seems to have programs out that pretty much zeroes out BE's effectiveness, and that's *possibly* because of sable's absence. Maybe now that he's back he'll change stuff around and make it harder for them to get around it.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #118 on: September 15, 2009, 11:52:40 pm »
@ tehsnipah- Well, if you have once 3 lvl 50 really good hexer players (in one of the best hexer clans) spawning at a single point in 1.4.2, you ask yourself...

Iirc, it was linked to a bug in aetherwalk/body double, as it started when one of them used one of those powers, killed the flagger and simultaneously returned their flag and got our flag.
Then they started just popping out at the point where he used the power.
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Re: Is BE alive ?
« Reply #119 on: September 16, 2009, 02:55:59 am »
Bug or no bug, the current BE is still un-reliable to kick hackers. I need to start learning how to make anti-hack systems and maybe help $able out :D.

What language would you use to make an anti-hack? I'm totally confused now that I think about it...
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