Author Topic: Mapping Contest #3 VOTE! (Read 8559 times)

Wraithlike · « **on:** August 05, 2009, 04:51:58 pm »

The Contest:

Quote from: Suowarrior on June 17, 2009, 12:08:43 pm

Idea of Contest:
The most of default maps have been the same from day they were selected into Soldat. There's need for developing default maps: some of the maps aren't played much, some might look boring and some might have bugs. It's not a promise, but I believe upcoming Soldat versions have use for remakes.

Special Info:
Only ctf maps are recognized for contest. You are allowed to use original default map as a base but you can also make full remake (which is preferable if you are going to remake map in different size). You can consider only develop looks or fixing gameplay issues. Remember that we don't want to ruin basic structure of maps. I wish you name the map related default name, for example, ctf_Laosremix ctf_Laos3, etc (remember check that mapname is not already on use).

I highly recommend that you select a map that isn't popular, especially when you aim for full remake. So don't try find new gameplays in ctf_Ash (opening new routes, adding polyislands), it won't be so likely that it could get into official version. Check out this link to see which maps are popular and which aren't: http://stats.sctfl.net/index.php?map=ctf_Steel .

I also recommend replying into this topic which default map you are going to remake, so that we would get as many remakes as possible from different default maps.

Deadline: 31.7.2009

The Maps
download mappack

Ash remakes:
AshZ by Zakath

B2b remakes:
B2bZ by Zakath
B2bprime by Boxo

Crashed remakes:
Booted by Boxo
CrashedB by As de Espada

Chernobyl remakes:
Chernobyl2 by As de Espada

Death2 remakes:
DeathZ by Zakath

Division remakes:
Divisionrmx by Darkcrusade

Dropdown2 remakes:
Dropfugly by jrgp
Stardrop by p0ppin

Equinox remakes:
Equinaxe by Wraithlike

Kampf remakes:
Kampfprime by Boxo
Kampf ][ by Maverick/Pat0!
Conflict by Eagles Arrows

Lanuyba remakes:
Laboa by Boxo
Labuya remake by Niko
Lantu by Wraithlike

Laos remakes:
LaosZ by Zakath
Dormant by Smiluu

Maya remakes:
Maija by Boxo
MayaRevamp by The Geologist
Mayaercum by Biggles

Maya2 remakes:
Maija2 by Boxo

Nuubia remakes:
SMW_NUUBIA by Dr Thrax

Raspberry remakes:
Berry by Boxo

Rotten remakes:
Rotten1 by Biggles
Mold by Boxo

Ruins remakes:
RuinZ by Zakath
JungleRuins by Dark Crusade

Run remakes:
RunS by SuoWarrior
Runprime by Boxo

Snakebite remakes:
SnakebiteZ by Zakath
Snakeprime by Boxo

Viet remakes:
VietZ by Zakath
VietMaya by As De Espada

Voland remakes:
VolandZ by Zakath
Volandprime by Boxo

zakath · « **Reply #1 on:** August 05, 2009, 04:56:42 pm »

Quote from: smiluu on August 05, 2009, 04:54:11 pm

Where's Virtual TT's Nuubia? I was looking forward to it.
And poll?

afaik its not finished.

Wraithlike · « **Reply #2 on:** August 05, 2009, 04:59:30 pm »

Poll Up, sorry, took a while to put them in, and thank so much Zakath for the list, you're a god.

zakath · « **Reply #3 on:** August 05, 2009, 05:02:35 pm »

Quote from: Wraithlike on August 05, 2009, 04:59:30 pm

Poll Up, sorry, took a while to put them in, and thank so much Zakath for the list, you're a god.

hehe np I figured you would take it after I posted it in the beta forum

zakath · « **Reply #4 on:** August 05, 2009, 05:48:32 pm »

I voted Lantu, Conflict, Runs, Volandprime and Stardrop

~Niko~ · « **Reply #5 on:** August 05, 2009, 05:49:22 pm »

Too bad I didn't submit the last version of my map.

pic

I don't care about it any longer anyways.

Suowarrior · « **Reply #6 on:** August 05, 2009, 06:00:22 pm »

Gogo CrashedB! Equinaxe! Lanubyas! VietZ! Chernobyl!

xmRipper · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2009, 07:00:07 pm »

Chernobyl2, Equinaxe, AshZ, VietZ, DeathZ.

The Geologist · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2009, 07:27:47 pm »

Thanks for the pack. So much more convenient that way.

Looks like I'm pretty much on the level with most of the votes thus far.

Map Artist · « **Reply #9 on:** August 05, 2009, 10:50:59 pm »

Equinaxe was the best remake, it improved the map in every aspect. I vote it to replace the current.

Fubister · « **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2009, 01:54:03 am »

AshZ looks really good

Biggles · « **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2009, 04:46:59 am »

Go RuniZ, RunS, b2bZ, VolandZ, I love them all

numgun · « **Reply #12 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:19:43 am »

I voted RunS and Chernobyl2, very good maps.

Most of boxo's maps were flawed in gameplay and looks, as well as some other maps were a bit too dark or unbalanced like smiluu's Dormant. Some maps might have looked good, but could have used some more stuff like colliders or cave backgrounds or they had removed some aspects of the original which were really good like the camo nets in the top route of lanubya for example.

F4||3N · « **Reply #13 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:45:45 am »

There's a few good ones there.
But I dunno if I would want any of them replacing the originals.

jerich · « **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:58:56 am »

The one's that should be replaced would be the ones least played at SCTFL. Although it's a sample size, it's a good amount of players to determine that those aren't popular maps and need some revamping.

Also take in account that the ones that are last, are usually last in consecutive seasons and seems to be an ongoing trend. Lanubya, Ruins and Equinox are ones that should definitely be in consideration for replacement.

F4||3N · « **Reply #15 on:** August 06, 2009, 08:53:08 am »

I think they all need graphical updates, and certain poly bug fixes.
On top of that, there's only a few that need reconstruction!

Poppin's remake is probably my fav!

The remakes don't look as smooth as the originals.
Most of them have lost certain curves that were really fun.

Graphical update, poly bug fixes and keeping the entire maps the same with maybe an extra tunnel here and there, or a poly island, and colliders to prevent spraying and better spawn points would have went further, rather then messing with curves and such!

Edit: And they've tried to open the maps up to much. Might be faster game play for auto weapons, but servers like snipe and slice and realistic are less playable if areas are to open!

Still, nice maps. I wish I could map!

numgun · « **Reply #16 on:** August 06, 2009, 09:40:14 am »

Chernobyl2 would make a good comeback as an ex official map.

MaVeRiCk/PaT0! · « **Reply #17 on:** August 06, 2009, 02:21:39 pm »

Chernobyl2, AshZ, CrashedB, Equinauxe, MayaRevamp, Stardrop.

Quote from: F4||3N on August 06, 2009, 06:45:45 am

There's a few good ones there.
But I dunno if I would want any of them replacing the originals.

I don't think that was the idea. Even if some of them would be added as official, in some cases the new one not necessarily has to replace the older, I think. Just thinking like dust and dust2 coexist on CS, for example, or maya and maya2 on soldat.

But, yeah, it was hard to choose even with six options. It's a lot of really good maps.

Bye!
sorry, bad English...

VirtualTT · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2009, 03:08:39 pm »

I'm kinda dissapointed with the contest results. Most of the maps are made in "Roundy PW" style or just some chopped-off old ones... mediocrity in a word...

Dormant could be great if not that blurry overstretched texturing and balance issues.

DeathZ also could be nice, if only zakath didn't screw all the top...

Stardrop... too bad that poppin didn't make any more updates...

Mold, Maija, Conflict are ok.

Quote from: smiluu on August 05, 2009, 04:58:19 pm

Im gonna nail VTT's dick into a brikwall for making me wait so long. GRRRH >: [[

hmm... since my mapping creativity level is quite unstable i usually prefer not to announce anything...
dunno when i'm gonna finish this Noobia... polystructure is mostly ready (over 3k of polygons) but there is still a lot of work to be done...

Suowarrior · « **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2009, 03:58:54 pm »

We were a bit suprised about number of maps made for the contest. As we can notice the level of remake is different in maps. Imo, some of the maps are overmade and some undermade.

To me the main goal of contest was to find alternatives for unpopular default maps, which have serious gameplay issues. So in my view, if map is popular, there's nothing wrong at it.

Wraithlike · « **Reply #20 on:** August 06, 2009, 10:31:51 pm »

Stardrop by p0ppin
Conflict by Eagles Arrows
MayaRevamp by The Geologist
Rotten1 by Biggles
RunS by SuoWarrior
VietZ by Zakath

As de Espada · « **Reply #21 on:** August 06, 2009, 11:28:55 pm »

the only map that it's not new on 1.5 that wasn't remake was ctf_Cobra
maybe it's because cobra is a remake of snakebyte xD

ctf_Steel wasn't remade, but that was explained already

jrgp · « **Reply #22 on:** August 07, 2009, 01:09:38 am »

I just love how my map has one vote. (it isn't mine)

But yeah, I voted for Wraithlike's and Zakath's as I like them the most.

F4||3N · « **Reply #23 on:** August 07, 2009, 02:09:10 am »

Now that I've play tested some of them (against bots)

B2bZ by Zakath is probably my favorite.
It's been the most improved so far. And I tested most of them!

Dr.Thrax · « **Reply #24 on:** August 07, 2009, 08:43:25 am »

I don't want my map to replace Nuubia anyway

It was just kind of fun! But still it has at least 3 Votes

-Bendarr- · « **Reply #25 on:** August 07, 2009, 09:17:45 am »

In order of preference...

Lantu
MayaRevamp
AshZ

The #1 voted is apparently Equinaxe.. It's only decent I think; everything is rounded too much. If there were boxes the left of left flag and right of right flag like on Equinox it would be better.

Also... WHY AREN'T SCREENSHOTS OF THE MAPS WITHOUT TEXTURES REQUIRED?!?

Where ice is or death poly's, shows what it would be like to play the map in real matches. "Well I don't think it would be very balanced if you get stuck on that wall immediately after getting the flag.." etc etc.

As de Espada · « **Reply #26 on:** August 08, 2009, 06:04:10 pm »

Quote from: -Bendarr- on August 07, 2009, 09:17:45 am

Also... WHY AREN'T SCREENSHOTS OF THE MAPS WITHOUT TEXTURES REQUIRED?!?

peopple usualy say it, when something's different than normal
most of the times it's pretty obvious

also, try downl the map xD

Biggles · « **Reply #27 on:** August 09, 2009, 06:51:57 am »

Just a small notice MayaRevamp by The Geologist is a remake of Maya2 not Maya.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #28 on:** August 10, 2009, 06:37:22 am »

Where is my B5B in the list of remakes?

The Geologist · « **Reply #29 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:21:46 pm »

Quote from: Biggles on August 09, 2009, 06:51:57 am

Just a small notice MayaRevamp by The Geologist is a remake of Maya2 not Maya.

I noticed that as well, but figured it wasn't worth mentioning. Thanks for speakin' up.

With that point in mind, try out that map out people! [/shameless self promotion]

Biggles · « **Reply #30 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:59:42 pm »

Well I thought you'd figured out what im trying to do, ofc I want my maya to be alone

:D

Suowarrior · « **Reply #31 on:** August 10, 2009, 05:09:06 pm »

Quote from: DarkCrusade on August 10, 2009, 06:37:22 am

Where is my B5B in the list of remakes?

Accidently we missed it, sorry for it :S. We'll recommend mappers to check that their maps are in polls at beginning in future.

Voting will be closed in 24 hours.
It's been 24hrs, voting lock'd. -Wraithlike

The Geologist · « **Reply #32 on:** August 11, 2009, 05:54:04 pm »

Aww...bumped from third to seventh.

numgun · « **Reply #33 on:** August 11, 2009, 06:08:05 pm »

Yeah! Chernobyl2 is tied with the 3 first maps, I'm loving this! : 3

Map Artist · « **Reply #34 on:** August 11, 2009, 06:40:15 pm »

If Wraithlike's map is beaten, then whoever voted has no sense of what's a good remake. Seriously.

As de Espada · « **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:56:04 pm »

that will hardly happen
there are 6 votes and a lot of great remakes

RatBoy · « **Reply #36 on:** August 12, 2009, 12:29:38 am »

Gasp, I'm too late to vote. That's what I get for going AWOL.

Anyhow, my vote WOULD have gone to Dormant by Smiluu =D

numgun · « **Reply #37 on:** August 12, 2009, 06:25:45 am »

Quote from: Map Artist on August 11, 2009, 06:40:15 pm

If Wraithlike's map is beaten, then whoever voted has no sense of what's a good remake. Seriously.

Thats just personal opinions.

For example for me, Wraithlike's map is no good, atleast if compared to the original one. He rounded alot of the parts and streched out the areas way too much and cramped up the whole map to a smaller size. Then he removed some good things from the original like the bends in the low route and he basically changed the low route that its just a boring route as same as the top one. The cave in the original gave it some depth that there were varied areas in the map as in where this one is just monotonic. And the whole visual style is just too plain imo.

Map Artist · « **Reply #38 on:** August 12, 2009, 07:11:04 am »

The original was difficult to move through and has tons of gameplay issues.

One being the size of the way, it was too large. There was always spray and boosting issues with the upper route. The lower route also has problems with camping.

The polygon structure is awkward in the remake and doesn't allow fully smooth movement. With the remake, he curved many areas, allowing for bunny-hopping and quicker movement.

And with the additional of the spawns and several other adjustments, spawn killing and flag staling is also fixed.

The original never had good gameplay and I always found it to be one of the worst default maps. The remake doesn't make it one of the best, it's still far from it, but it's a definite improvement.

numgun · « **Reply #39 on:** August 12, 2009, 07:59:43 am »

Funny, you just listed all the stuff I love about the map. : )

The camping in the low routes was nicely moderated by the collider boxes and it was both fun camping and taking out the campers in that area.

The top route was really fun due to the open space that allowed you to fly pretty freely in that area and m79/nade boosting also was fun there. The fact the map was large was another favorite point of it. It sort of had a semi-slow gameplay on it with a good atmosphere and special areas with their own gimmicks. I really like this map and compared to the very first version, the updated one in 1.5.0 is very good, well improved and it works.

As I said, its all about personal opinion in the end.

Biggles · « **Reply #40 on:** August 12, 2009, 09:12:59 am »

Gotta agree I don't really like the new Equi either, Atleast not the looks, they are way to light. Atually the looks of Equi atm are quite awesome, It's just that the map is too big

zakath · « **Reply #41 on:** August 12, 2009, 09:45:14 am »

the new equinox actually stays true to its original name as an equinox is when the sun is directly above the equator and the original map had a moon? I mean whats up with that.

XerXeS · « **Reply #42 on:** September 07, 2009, 04:09:33 pm »

Pick Your Top 6!

*AshZ by Zakath, *RunS by SuoWarrior, *VietZ by Zakath, *Equinaxe by Wraithlike, *Labuya remake by Niko, *Maija by Boxo.

done.

Xxypher · « **Reply #43 on:** September 07, 2009, 05:22:39 pm »

When did this get here and why didn't I know about it?

News:

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Author Topic: Mapping Contest #3 VOTE! (Read 8559 times)

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