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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2009, 07:43:38 pm »
I just bought myself a new computer, which has an E5200, dual core at 2,5GHz. It cost me about 60 euros and I've done pretty well so far! Also 4 gigs of RAM, as you've picked already.

I'm pretty sure you'd do just fine with any modern dual core processor, starting from dual core pentium (E5200) and Athlon 64 X2.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2009, 07:45:02 pm »
@jrgp: I must have very good luck with hard drives, I have a 20 gb hard drive that is now almost 10 years old, still working fine (ribbon cables w00t). Same with my 5-year-old 60gb hard drive.
Will take into account though.

Right, old drives are amazingly indestructible. Stuff from the 80s/90s lives forever. Like for my v6 tunnel/ssh access point Gish (http://jrgp.us/health) is a dell from 1998 with two 20GB hard drives, each from no later than 2003/4.

The oldies always work, but unfortunately stuff made now is shit and dies after a year. At least from my personal experience(s).
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2009, 07:54:47 pm »
@jrgp: I must have very good luck with hard drives, I have a 20 gb hard drive that is now almost 10 years old, still working fine (ribbon cables w00t). Same with my 5-year-old 60gb hard drive.
Will take into account though.

Right, old drives are amazingly indestructible. Stuff from the 80s/90s lives forever. Like for my v6 tunnel/ssh access point Gish (http://jrgp.us/health) is a dell from 1998 with two 20GB hard drives, each from no later than 2003/4.

The oldies always work, but unfortunately stuff made now is shit and dies after a year. At least from my personal experience(s).

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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2009, 05:10:14 pm »
I'd prefer Intel's E8500 over the Phenom you got there. (Because Tom's Hardware says so)
Toms hardware is the crap when it comes to hardware comparisons. Basically they are Intel biased at times. Besides, dual code CPU's are becoming obsolete in near future and hence there is no point getting a dual core over a quad.

AMD(former ATI) are launching new graphics cards in before Windows 7 launches, so good 2 months to go. This means that unless there is an urgent need for new hardware, it could wise to wait until then at least to see what the graphics cards cost. Might be that for the same money one could get twice as fast card in just 2 months. At least the current line up will see price cuts.

Bad situation for Nvidia fanboys, there won't be anything interesting coming out this year. GT300(GTX 300 series) will launch Q1(Jan-Apr) next year at best.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2009, 05:51:10 pm »
I'd prefer Intel's E8500 over the Phenom you got there. (Because Tom's Hardware says so)
Toms hardware is the crap when it comes to hardware comparisons. Basically they are Intel biased at times.

Since I'm an Intel fanboy I find Tom's hardware to be one of the best there is.

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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2009, 03:14:56 pm »
Hmm quick question, do most processors (the one xmRipper suggested in particular) come with their own thermal grease stuff or should I buy it separately?

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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2009, 05:29:55 pm »
Separately. No clue if there's a different preference for desktops but in the laptop forums I frequent Arctic Silver 5 or MX7 [I think] is the preferred stuff.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2009, 08:27:35 pm »
Separately. No clue if there's a different preference for desktops but in the laptop forums I frequent Arctic Silver 5 or MX7 [I think] is the preferred stuff.
If the CPUs come with a heatsink, it'll have thermal material on the sink itself.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2009, 09:11:04 pm »
Separately. No clue if there's a different preference for desktops but in the laptop forums I frequent Arctic Silver 5 or MX7 [I think] is the preferred stuff.
If the CPUs come with a heatsink, it'll have thermal material on the sink itself.

I used to read a lot of hardware reviews back in the day, and they all said that stock thermal paste is no where near as good as arctic silver.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2009, 09:13:30 pm »
Yeah, aftermarket thermal grease is always preferable over the stock stuff.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2009, 12:57:27 pm »
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2009, 03:38:15 pm »
Separately. No clue if there's a different preference for desktops but in the laptop forums I frequent Arctic Silver 5 or MX7 [I think] is the preferred stuff.
If the CPUs come with a heatsink, it'll have thermal material on the sink itself.

I used to read a lot of hardware reviews back in the day, and they all said that stock thermal paste is no where near as good as arctic silver.
That's really only important if you're overclocking.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2009, 09:10:30 pm »
Separately. No clue if there's a different preference for desktops but in the laptop forums I frequent Arctic Silver 5 or MX7 [I think] is the preferred stuff.
If the CPUs come with a heatsink, it'll have thermal material on the sink itself.

I used to read a lot of hardware reviews back in the day, and they all said that stock thermal paste is no where near as good as arctic silver.
That's really only important if you're overclocking.
lower heat means longer life. You're right though, stock is sufficient.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2009, 09:31:43 pm »
From what I've been reading about lately the stock should be good. I'm not overclocking or anything.

Here's my list for now, I'll be finalizing within a week or so.
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104073

CD/DVD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144

Case/PS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.215740

Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1155-TR GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130469

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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2009, 09:43:09 pm »
Been putting games, media, work, and all sorts of things on this PC since I bough it a year and a half back, and out of my 160 gigs, I have a staggering 119 gigs left...
Do you run a porn archive on your PC? O_O
Jk...But really, 990 gigs sounds like a lot of space to me.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2009, 12:44:52 am »
You can never have enough of disk space.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2009, 08:37:31 am »
Don't buy a Seagate. Some are made in Taiwan and are good. Some are made in former Maxtor factories in china and they fail all the time. The quality is so sketchy that you're safer to go to Western Digital.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2009, 10:15:43 am »
Get an 4850 or 4870 for your video card.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2009, 03:03:32 pm »
Don't buy a Seagate. Some are made in Taiwan and are good. Some are made in former Maxtor factories in china and they fail all the time. The quality is so sketchy that you're safer to go to Western Digital.

I can second this due to years of experience with failing Seagates and all of my current rock solid, fast, dependable, drives being WD.
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Re: Building a new computer
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2009, 03:08:39 pm »
Well I just ordered it, swapping out the Seagate HDD for the one in my first post.

So that's done, thanks everyone for the suggestions :)