Eurabia - We have less than 40 years

[Twistkill]

rather, I focus on my relationship with God. Wonderful things happened in my life since I got reconnected with him and he has plans for you, too.

Avoiding the parts you don't like of it doesn't make christianity less bad, it makes you less christian.

I... never said that I do. It's not nice to assume things.

[Espadon]

I've posted my response on the religious debate thread to avoid OTing this any further.

[xurich]

I've moved UnknownSniper's post there as well for the same reason. Let's try to keep this topic in line with its original subject (regarding Islamic immigration to Europe, and its potential perils) as much as possible, as I'd hate to see it degrade to the same tired debate.

[demoniac93]

You know that this is some racist attempt at disturbing peace right? I live with thousands of these Muslims right next door, I befriend them, heck I can even freely discuss religion with them without any form of aggression on either sides.

Just so you know it, it's those American and Euro soldiers that made them move out of their countries in the first place, you've demolished their universities, so they go to study in Europe and the U.S.A.
You've caused the ruin of health care centers and hospitals by engaging FREE and PATRIOTIC people on their rightful ground.
You've bombarded their houses, so they fled them and searched for a life outside of their burned down countries.

I went with them to school and still do, I've worked with them and still work with them, I share their celebrations and they share mine. I carry the same nationality as they do. I'm with the minority here, a Catholic Christian among Muslims, yet they allow me to worship the God I believe in, even if anyone in the world says it's a different one. They give me full freedom to celebrate and cherish my believes, and demand NOTHING in exchange, other than mutual respect, and friendship.

So you see, the way I look at it, your likes might be better off living under their rule, cause even after all you people did to them, they wouldn't seek revenge, and let you live in peace.

I know this post will be quoted and someone will say "they're bombing themselves", and "they attack civilians", "they harbor terrorists", "they bomb U.N soldiers"...Etc bla bla bla...
Well guess what? The Muslims religion is AGAINST ALL acts of terrorism, racism, and killing, the terrorist simply use "religion" as an excuse for what they're doing. As did the great Crusaders when they invaded the holy land of Palestine. Yes you read it write, I don't acknowledge Israel, I call it Palestine, cause it belongs to the Palestinians. And no one can deprive them of that. You come see what I've seen, on the faces of the refugees, the orphans, the parents who lost their sons and daughters. And yet they long to go back, to a place they can call HOME, but the Israeli border guard doesn't allow them, and threaten to kill in they try to trespass.

They go bare chested and armed with STONES, against soldiers carrying automatic weaponry, armored vehicles including tanks, and jet fighters equpied with bombs capable of wiping out entire cities.

And you know you can't argue me about that.
 
Edit: Just took a stronger notice of one of the first posts, and wanted to say that Turks follow a separate way of bended Islamic laws, their not part of the true Muslim culture.

Oh and did I forget to mention that nowadays there's rarely any Muslim familly in the entire world that has more than 3-4 kids? Just about as much as an average horny European.

Also, true Christians are taught to forgive, and look over differences.

[Espadon]

Just a note though, it seems a majority of middle eastern people tend to be extremely short-fused and hold grudges with a passion, even more so than far eastern people do. Both Jews and Arabs alike have difficulty compromising they way Europeans can and that's a fundamental problem -- it's not really the religion, although it can most definitely exacerbate the issue.

Stubborn pride gets you nowhere.

[Dascoo]

Just so you know it, it's those American and Euro soldiers that made them move out of their countries in the first place, you've demolished their universities, so they go to study in Europe and the U.S.A.
You've caused the ruin of health care centers and hospitals by engaging FREE and PATRIOTIC people on their rightful ground.
You've bombarded their houses, so they fled them and searched for a life outside of their burned down countries.

HOLY s**t AMERICA AND ITS EUROPEAN ALLIES HAS INVADED THE ENTIRE ISLAMIC WORLD? I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN! THEY'VE EVEN ATTACKED TURKEY, A NATO MEMBER AND PAKISTAN AS WELL, ALSO AN AMERICAN ALLY! When did this happen?

Also students from the islamic countries don't attend our universities because theirs have been destroyed by the IMPERIALIST AMERICANS. They do it because their parents are rich and they know the universites in there native countries are s**t.



 

[Espadon]

Where the fuck is Bin Laden anyhow?

[pavliko]

BTW hardcore religious Jews have a very big chance in being gay lol...
they grow in a family that doesn't allow them to meet girls until the age 18..
And they wont actually meet them,the parents bring them...

so there are some loosers below or +18 years old that don't have a gf , they become gay ;_;

Is there such a thing in any other religion?
if yes that i will get a good laugh and the religion problem for me is solved.

[croat1gamer]

I still havent heard saurons final solution for the problem. Q_Q

[STM1993]

What's wrong with other races or religion in the first place? They are not a problem at all unless someone tries to push their views aggressively rather than tolerate, respect and understand or decide to go uber-extreme like mixing politics with religion. Hell, we're all different, but the problem is people not wanting to respect and accept differences or to look at ourselves as human beings rather than separate groups. And people hold grudges too rather than open up.

Take a look at Singapore for that matter.

[Biggles]

Man I hate racists..

Like two years ago when I was going in the ninth grade a girl in my class said she thought we should kill all Africans otherwise we wouldn't enough food or something, that's totally stupid and she had probably also just watched some shit.
People are easily effected, they can believe almost anything they see at TV. Just because it's on TV.
And if the group/person is popular the people will only trust it even more. Just look how people trusted Adolf Hitler.

imo I think someone will probably invent some good kind of energy but nevertheless we can't really stop earth from going under in the long way. But what does it matter for you people anyway if the earth go under or not, you might die now or in 80 years perhaps.
I don't want make you think you cant do anything to help the earth though. Just saying, care less.

[demoniac93]

Just so you know it, it's those American and Euro soldiers that made them move out of their countries in the first place, you've demolished their universities, so they go to study in Europe and the U.S.A.
You've caused the ruin of health care centers and hospitals by engaging FREE and PATRIOTIC people on their rightful ground.
You've bombarded their houses, so they fled them and searched for a life outside of their burned down countries.

HOLY s**t AMERICA AND ITS EUROPEAN ALLIES HAS INVADED THE ENTIRE ISLAMIC WORLD? I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN! THEY'VE EVEN ATTACKED TURKEY, A NATO MEMBER AND PAKISTAN AS WELL, ALSO AN AMERICAN ALLY! When did this happen?

Also students from the islamic countries don't attend our universities because theirs have been destroyed by the IMPERIALIST AMERICANS. They do it because their parents are rich and they know the universites in there native countries are s**t.



 

Oh really now? Well guess what you ignorant idiot, the founders of some of the oldest and greatest European schools as you know them, and about 1/5 of the Western knowledge, was passed to your cultures through students that traveled to Arabia to study in the universities of Andalus (Now know as Spain) under some of the most experienced and clever teachers in the world, who were, by coincidence, of Arabic origin. So don't go talking about their universities with insult.
And Espadon, if your people and friends were seen by the whole world as terrorists and cavemen cause of propaganda and racism, wouldn't you let yourself become "emotional"?
Our pride as Arabs has never blinded us, we hold our ground by word and deed, cause we know our rights and duties.
I for one am not blinded by my pride and never was, and I know how to put my emotions aside, for a reasonable time. But when the truth needs to be shown it needs to be shown. I have never judged people by groups nor am I doing so now, when I judge I judge individuals, and majorities.
And Biggles how the hell did you bring the subject of the planet and energy into this?

[PANZERCATWAGON]

I HATE RACISTS

YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOUR OLD FASHIONED STEREOTYPES

EVERYONE SHOULD HOLD HANDS

[demoniac93]

I HATE RACISTS

YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOUR OLD FASHIONED STEREOTYPES

EVERYONE SHOULD HOLD HANDS

*Holds your hand*
ILY too!

[Dascoo]

words

Oh I wasn't questioning the contributions that islamic arabs have brought upon us, I was just saying in comparison AT THE PRESENT your universities are shit compared to the top western universities.

Remember it was not MURRIKAH that wrecked your shit, it was the mongols.

[LtKillroy]

Where the f**k is Bin Laden anyhow?

PAKISTAN

Europeans have been worried about this crap for hundreds of years. It never seems to work out the way they hope.

[Espadon]

Like knocking out the Aborigines in Australia and then later complaining about invading Asians?

[ds dude]

So what if there's a lot of Muslims in Europe.. they won't hang you until you convert to Islam, they won't do anything, there will just be a lot of Muslims. There are more than one billion Catholics in this world more than any other religion. The are more Muslims than Catholics, that means there are more than one billion Muslims in this World that are either Shi'ite or Sunni. If the Muslims wanted to take all the Jews and Buddhists and and force them to convert, they would've already have done it, but they didn't.

Don't worry about Europe.

Get over it. I don't mean that in a harsh way either. I'm just saying.

[Espadon]

And Espadon, if your people and friends were seen by the whole world as terrorists and cavemen cause of propaganda and racism, wouldn't you let yourself become "emotional"?
Our pride as Arabs has never blinded us, we hold our ground by word and deed, cause we know our rights and duties.

The issue is about a concept in Arab culture that is reflected best in the Bedouin phrase, "I and my brothers against my cousins, I and my brothers and my cousins against the world." There's a general self-alienation going on here and that is the root cause of a lot of the issues we have today.

[Veritas]

And Espadon, if your people and friends were seen by the whole world as terrorists and cavemen cause of propaganda and racism, wouldn't you let yourself become "emotional"?
Our pride as Arabs has never blinded us, we hold our ground by word and deed, cause we know our rights and duties.

The issue is about a concept in Arab culture that is reflected best in the Bedouin phrase, "I and my brothers against my cousins, I and my brothers and my cousins against the world." There's a general self-alienation going on here and that is the root cause of a lot of the issues we have today.

That attitude will decline as the Middle East is modernized, to the point where it's no different than the ``WHOO AMERICA!!1" people spout. It's a non-issue propagated by racists, so yeah.