Two secondaires simultaneously

[Blah]

Ok, this idea is pretty simple:

Instead of choosing the normal primary/secondary combo before respawning, you should be able to choose 2 secondary weapons.   (This means you would have secondary/secondary instead of primary/secondary, NOT primary/secondary/secondary.)   So if, for example, you ever wanted to start with a socom/knife socom/socom or knife/knife combo, you could.  To stop abuse, you would not be able to select law/law.   (If people really have a problem with knife/knife, that could be nixed as well, but I don't personally see it as a huge balance problem).  Basically this would just be added to add a little fun and flavor.  I know there have been a few times when I would like to use socom/knife.

P.S. I tried to see if this idea had been brought up before, but in a few searches for "two secondaries" and "2 secondaries" I didn't find anything.  If, however, it has been posted before,  I'm sorry.

[jrgp]

I don't really like the idea, because secondary weapons are called secondary for a reason:
To be secondary and to be used along side primary.

[Wraithlike]

I Think I posted this on the old forums, But I completely agree, except you should be able to have knife/knife and law/law, because I can't see how it can be abused.

[The Geologist]

Definately not.  Secondaries are enough as is, what would be the use of having another around? 

If you can't make due with the weapons already present, I don't think adding another would be any sort of solution.

[Blah]

To jrgp:  But why would it hurt?  If somebody else wants to wield two secondaries, it doesn't mean you have to.


Wraithlike: I agree about knife/knife, but I really don't like the idea of law/law.  It's an instant kill weapon with screen-wide range and almost instantaneous bullet speed.  I just think it could cause balance problems to let people have two of them to start.  The delay obviously helps a little, but I think I still think it could cause some balance type issues.

Geologist: What do you mean?   I don't mean that suddenly it will be primary/secondary/secondary.  I mean instead of primary/secondary, you could select secondary/secondary.  Not adding another, just optionally substituting one.

[BooBoo McBad]

It would be good for knifers.

[Unlucky XIII]

I am on the fence for this idea. I think that it'd be great to have a LAW and a Socom so I could kill easier, but then you have the point of people using two LAWs and such. Even I hit the second time in LAW-only matches.

EDIT: Gah, why do I always misread things... sorry about that. I guess I skimmed over your idea a little too fast. In that case, full support.
As an idea so the weapons menu does not become over crowded, ctrl-clicking the weapon should make it your primary secondary (if that made sense)

[The Geologist]

Ahh..I misunderstood 

I don't feel this would create any new advantages, and in that case I support it.  Whereas having an additional secondary might have been too much, if some people feel more comfortable with this option I'd support it.

[Blah]

Unlucky XIII: Which is exactly why in the first post I explicitly mentioned that law/law would not be an allowed combination..    My idea is to make every combination of secondaries choosable other than law/law.

[echo_trail]

I think this is one of those ideas that if implimented in soldat, they'd fade away and die within a matter of days. There's not really any use for this, and it's not very cool anyway.

Surely it would be fun to start with a couple of knifes sometimes, and go totally Ninja, but it's hardly worth programming it in just for that.

I vote NO on this.

[MofoNofo]

I sometimes use soccom + law for fun... all i need to do is find one :p

[Mr. Domino]

To stop abuse, you would not be able to select law/law.

What's the problem with LAW/LAW? You get two shots then have to wait eons for both your weapons to reload, making you useless unless you kill someone and ditch them for their dropped weapon (which itself would have to reload which would stink with a freshly picked up LAW). It'd be far from game breaking -- LAW shots are easy enough to avoid as is.

[Valorman]

I vote 100% i neeed 2 knives when I spawn.

[MofoNofo]

Wouldn't mind getting 2 saws.. this would be useful in saw clanwars (which i only have once a month :[)

[Bgretydews]

I voted yes. And Law/Law should be allowed...Its only the same as Barret/Law for the first shot.

[CheeSeMan.]

Not cool aftyer a while someone would suggest double primaries

Might aswell not call them secondaries ...

[Ivarska]

I choose no, 'cause like jrgp said it's a secondary weapon, you're changing weapon on [Q].
how whould it be if a man walk around with a XM214, LAW and M79? 1st, it isn't possible (too heavy). 2nd, when the guy has killed 3 players with XM214 he change to M79, kill, and right after that sitting on ground and shot one or two more with LAW, that's not fun.
Good idea, Blah, but no.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

To stop abuse, you would not be able to select law/law. (If people really have a problem with knife/knife, that could be nixed as well, but I don't personally see it as a huge balance problem).

Someone's going to have to explain to me how two LAWs are better than two knives.

LAW:
shoot -> kill
shoot -> kill
10 sec wait to attack again

Knife:
throw -> kill
throw -> kill
pickup
pickup
repeat

I understand the LAW has a much greater range than the knife, but you can only get two kills with it, then you have to camp or hide for ten second.  This holds true no matter how skilled you are with it.

Someone with knife skills could easily take out several opponents.  Since the reload time is only the time it takes you to pick up your knife, you can throw, grab, throw, grab, throw, grab, all the time being a danger to people who are trying to kill you.

Besides, if you really want two secondaries, just throw down your primary and pick up a secondary.

[Twistkill]

To stop abuse, you would not be able to select law/law. (If people really have a problem with knife/knife, that could be nixed as well, but I don't personally see it as a huge balance problem).

Someone's going to have to explain to me how two LAWs are better than two knives.

LAW:
shoot -> kill
shoot -> kill
10 sec wait to attack again

Knife:
throw -> kill
throw -> kill
pickup
pickup
repeat

I understand the LAW has a much greater range than the knife, but you can only get two kills with it, then you have to camp or hide for ten second.  This holds true no matter how skilled you are with it.

Someone with knife skills could easily take out several opponents.  Since the reload time is only the time it takes you to pick up your knife, you can throw, grab, throw, grab, throw, grab, all the time being a danger to people who are trying to kill you.

Besides, if you really want two secondaries, just throw down your primary and pick up a secondary.

Um... one, the knife has a much shorter range than the law, and the arc is quite difficult to get used to. Secondly, sometimes hits don't register, even with pings as low as 66 to 100. Thirdly, sometimes the knife disappears when you hit the person. Even if someone had knife skills, 2 knives against a bunch of people with autos and/or barrets/rugers wouldn't end well for him.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

Even if someone had knife skills, 2 knives against a bunch of people with autos and/or barrets/rugers wouldn't end well for him.

It wouldn't end well for people with two LAWs either.  It's incredibly easy to get owned when you're waiting for the startup time.  The same holds true with the knife though, so let's compromise and say they both suck .