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Offline rainrider

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ctf map generator
« on: August 11, 2006, 02:30:11 am »
The point of this topic is kick experienced mapmakers asses :D
I built already maze map generator and I can easily convert it to something else.
So, programmers. What connects these good quality maps except they all have polygons?


I was wondering about generating array of bool 'poly exists' 'poly does not exists':

Then do polygon smoothing:

Which would output something like:


But don't know how to write correctly algorithm. Any help?

Offline The Geologist

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2006, 02:43:08 am »
Please do not make this.  The maze generator is fine, but don't take the human aspect out of map making.
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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2006, 04:28:49 am »
Hey Mister Geologist. Worms2 had random map generator and it was preety fun.

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2006, 04:38:56 am »
It would be crazy if you made one. The only problem is that i could only see this being good at polygons (eyesores)
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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2006, 05:21:26 am »
It could be fun, but I believe that maps made by a generator would never be as good as human made maps. (Not counting the sucky maps.)
I think the layout and balance of the map would become an issue. Unless a map is exactly symetrical only humans can judge if a map is balanced.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2006, 05:23:15 am by Flying Dutchman »

Offline MofoNofo

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2006, 05:39:24 am »
You shouldnt try this, it will be a waste of time. You'd get heaps of ugly maps, because you can't make a program "know" what looks good, and what doesn't. And there may be a heap of polybugs ;)

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2006, 07:04:03 am »
It could be fun, but I believe that maps made by a generator would never be as good as human made maps. (Not counting the sucky maps.)

So let him make it anyway and get the programming experience in.  It sounds like a fun project and I'd be interested to see what the outcome is

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2006, 07:19:20 am »
Y'all seem to be missing the point here.... He is not asking for permission to do it, he is asking...
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But don't know how to write correctly algorithm. Any help?
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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2006, 09:56:53 am »
If you're going to do it, have it draw out a layout map first, ex.

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2006, 11:16:49 am »
It took me 2 mins(too long) to figure out that picture...

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2006, 05:32:30 pm »
get your maths books :)

i dont think there's really a need for a tool like this, except to learn programming, since all maps are basically the same, if you talk about polygons. In my opinion, scenery and colors are what make a map unique...all layouts are pretty much covered.

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2006, 05:35:13 pm »
Well I was thinking about something like brushes\0.txt brushes\1.txt brushes\n.txt where would be placed spaces and hashes (false and true). Randomly selected brushes would be merged into map in random places. Then do converting created array into polys. But it's rly boring.

[edit] didn't read any math book ever except gymnasium books. nothing interesting was there except few nice formulas for 3d and 2d geometry like S~4*3.14*r*r.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2006, 05:39:35 pm by rainrider »

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2006, 06:04:08 pm »
I think it's a very interesting idea, and although offhand I don't know how one would make an algorithm to do such a thing I do know it's possible. Good luck, and if I think of anything that can help I'll let you know.

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2006, 09:57:18 am »
map generator, what a great idea, its like worms game like other guy say. But, what about textures and bmp's files? they generate alone too? :\
anyway, im sure you all are tired allways play the same maps.

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2006, 10:06:25 am »
nevermind i give up.

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2006, 11:31:38 am »
nevermind i give up.

that sucks, I was really looking forward to see how you did it and how it turned out

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2006, 11:44:22 am »
nevermind i give up.
ow, too bad, the idea sounds great... well, try tell that too soldat creator, maybe he can do something...

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2006, 10:19:12 am »
Shame, coulda been fun to play around with
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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2006, 12:18:52 pm »
You had my attention :/

A random map generator would be interesting. Although nothing compares to handmade maps.

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Re: ctf map generator
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2006, 10:18:23 pm »
Random map generator would be so intresting..too bad you gave up.