Veoto

[Suowarrior]

Original



Duz remake

[duz]

Too unbalanced for TM, with a survival bug area at the Bravo respawn(you can fall and reborn).
Most people in my country hates this map cuz is too limited to make tactics.
Could be replaced by another better.

[biohazard]

Too unbalanced for TM, with a survival bug area at the Bravo respawn(you can fall and reborn).
Most people in my country hates this map cuz is too limited to make tactics.
Could be replaced by another better.

The reborn thing seems like a feature to me... ofc its unbalanced for any gamemode, but, maybe some maps call for not a perfect balanced in the end.
Its ugly btw.

[duz]

The reborn thing seems like a feature to me... ofc its unbalanced for any gamemode, but, maybe some maps call for not a perfect balanced in the end.
Its ugly btw.

Maybe a unofficial feature hahaha
IMPORTANT: Its ugly!

[biohazard]

Change one's mind about old Soldat scene, shit happens, take a look to hormone... scorpion... freefall
The gold old glory days are gone, we must appreciate the new wind blow, well, we got no choise in the end.
Ofc i dislike some maps, like lanubya/ruins, but ima sure some ppl like it, or get used to... buy since the map is playable i play anyway
Surely Veoto is playable, the possibility to fight outside the map is a must, but the reborn shit is too close to the map edge, and that reborn shit is not new, Airpirates got a polly where you can reborn too, but with much more risk to abuse it.

@ON

Here \/ you got a poly warp bug, like cambodia and airpirates, but i dont think the mapper created it intentionaly. I figured out playing at Leo's DM today, and its kinda game breaker (mk3x ftw)

[duz]

Thats sad:


I really think exist better maps for replace by Veoto.
Or can be reworked to gets a new perspective.

[biohazard]

nice find lol

[Suowarrior]

It seems nobody is defending original version. So in this case modification with some major changes would be welcomed.

[Dusty]

Why was this added in the first place?

[duz]

Download

[Suowarrior]

Poll added, duz remake yes.

[duz]

Update:

- Added a lower way, may be used as alt route.
- Added a block on right side to not allow players to out map.
- Added a deadly polies to not allow ppl to abuse the reborn.

[DarkCrusade]

I am happy with the changes as long as no polybugs will occur.

[Biggles]

I've allways liked the looks of this map, but your remake are even better, gj.

[Keron Cyst]

Duz's Veoto makeover is very commendable. I think the appearance of the original is what completely turned me off to it, but his more than saves it!

[DarkCrusade]

I miss texture stretching on the new version of Veoto

[L[0ne]R]

Original wasn't too bad (and it's not that ugly, especially comparing to some other maps), but constant offmapping was really annoying. Layout is rather unbalanced, but for DM map it'll do I guess.

I really like duz's changes. Great job.
I don't really trust that block that's supposed to prevent offmapping. Maybe someone skilled enough will manage to boost his way around it (don't forget there's such thing as minisurfing). Just to be safe - make outside polys deadly and maybe add vertical walls too. Also, the map is still a bit unbalanced. Left side is still at disadvantage, and that lower route is the fastest way to red base, so I suspect that blues won't even bother with upper routes. Maybe you should move blue spawns somewhere else?

Here are a few rough ideas:

[duz]

I thought exactly that Loner! Nice idea! I'll try do that.



Update
- First screenshot updated with the new route.
- Some polybugs fixed.
- Download file updated too.

[Keron Cyst]

Yeah, they're awkward and would be better to just be another wide floating rock (which would also make it much easier to manage bots up there). But even as it is I'd still take it over the original. L[0ne]R's landscaping is nice, too.

[tln]

Author of the original map here.

A couple of notes:

• I never intended this map to be an official map. A friend had sent it to MM while I was away, so I wasn’t even aware of that before – for some reason – it was made an official map in the next release.
• This map is not only old and unfinished but also not the latest version I had made when it was sent to MM. Which is why it has a lot of polybugs, the respawn bug (the original idea to handle that was to something along the lines of AirPirates), and other odd stuff like the “light” at the bottom right having different texture than the rest of the lights, which had been fixed in the latest version. Sadly I lost the fixed version years ago.

Frankly, I would prefer if it would be removed from any future versions of Soldat.

[L[0ne]R]

Frankly, I would prefer if it would be removed from any future versions of Soldat.

How so? Isn't it a good thing it made into default maplist? Or are there some sort of personal reasons why you don't want it to be there?

With a few tweaks it's an interesting, and it's totally worth being in the list of defaults.