Valid Question: Is the Bible erotic literature?

[Demonic]

i'm just lonely and want someone big and hairy to talk to and tuck me in at night

[demoniac93]

Dude, who wants a hairy woman?
Unless you're gay, that is...Or, is it?

[Dusty]

Dude, who wants a hairy woman?
Unless you're gay, that is...Or, is it?

Most of the real women are more or less hairy. I suppose you have watched porn for your whole life, and because of that you think every pretty woman is hairless.

[PQ]

Better question would be, is the bible like Mein Kampf. There is a lawsuit going on in The Netherlands because someone said that the Koran is comparable with Mein Kampf. Now what if it just is.. We all know that there are pieces of the Koran and Bible (at least in the old testament) about eliminating all non-believers. (although most people interpret them a different way)

What if the Dutch court just says: "he's right, it's no discrimination"

* PQ prepares for some Muslim extremism.

[Graham]

PQ on that subject: Since when is mixing government and religion a good idea? They tried that in t he medieval days and all they got where church controlled government officials and people using the church to gain political power. Also its left a stigma to this day. If the dutch court was smart they would simply not hear the case.

[demoniac93]

Dude, who wants a hairy woman?
Unless you're gay, that is...Or, is it?

Most of the real women are more or less hairy. I suppose you have watched porn for your whole life, and because of that you think every pretty woman is hairless.

Nope, unlike many horny fucks out there I'm not a pornoholic, nor an animal.

[PANZERCATWAGON]

Dude, who wants a hairy woman?
Unless you're gay, that is...Or, is it?

Most of the real women are more or less hairy. I suppose you have watched porn for your whole life, and because of that you think every pretty woman is hairless.

Nope, unlike many horny f**ks out there I'm not a pornoholic, nor an animal.

no you are just a loser

[PQ]

PQ on that subject: Since when is mixing government and religion a good idea? They tried that in t he medieval days and all they got where church controlled government officials and people using the church to gain political power. Also its left a stigma to this day. If the dutch court was smart they would simply not hear the case.

Well, yea, I wonder what's going to happen.

If the world was mine there shouldn't even be religious education. (I mean, people do have to know about religion, but the school itself shouldn't be religous)

[demoniac93]

Dude, who wants a hairy woman?
Unless you're gay, that is...Or, is it?

Most of the real women are more or less hairy. I suppose you have watched porn for your whole life, and because of that you think every pretty woman is hairless.

Nope, unlike many horny f**ks out there I'm not a pornoholic, nor an animal.

no you are just a loser

Thanks for the input, I would actually consider it, were you not a troll.

[Graham]

PQ on that subject: Since when is mixing government and religion a good idea? They tried that in t he medieval days and all they got where church controlled government officials and people using the church to gain political power. Also its left a stigma to this day. If the dutch court was smart they would simply not hear the case.

Well, yea, I wonder what's going to happen.

If the world was mine there shouldn't even be religious education. (I mean, people do have to know about religion, but the school itself shouldn't be religous)

I would have to disagree with that. I went to a christian high school. Smaller classrooms, nicer teachers, and higher grading standards... I really see no complaint other than there is a religious faculty.

[ds dude]

Better question would be, is the bible like Mein Kampf. There is a lawsuit going on in The Netherlands because someone said that the Koran is comparable with Mein Kampf. Now what if it just is.. We all know that there are pieces of the Koran and Bible (at least in the old testament) about eliminating all non-believers. (although most people interpret them a different way)

What if the Dutch court just says: "he's right, it's no discrimination"

* PQ prepares for some Muslim extremism.

It isn't..that lawsuit is rediculous. You're not suppose to take everying in the Qur'an literally, and the extremist are the people who turn the text around. The phrases that relate to elimanting is not what it is saying, It's telling all Muslims to defned their religion, as in don't let anyone put you down on what you believe in.

[Mangled*]

Just as you need to learn arithmetic before you can do calculus, you need to have the basis of "God is love" and all that jazz before Christianity becomes understandable and relevant.

'God is love' is actually a very modern ideology that is purposely obscure and what Christians often use as a 'get out of argument free' card. God isn't love, God is a grey-haired bearded giant who watches over you from the clouds and he created everything. Love is real, don't confuse the two.

As far as the date thing goes, how would you expect them to keep track? There's no BC/AD system for the Old Testament (obviously), and the New Testament was written before Jesus' birth was used as a basis.  However, what the Bible does have is detailed genealogies (this person lived for this long before having this kid who lived this long, etc. etc.), so dates CAN actually be determined that way.

Nope, there are many calendars that pre-dated the existance of Jesus. The Gregorian calendar just happens to be the one most people use today. Thanks, Catholics.

Mangled, why don't you just read the bible for yourself?  For so long you have come here to baffle on about religion, and you're clearly fascinated by it... just go out and buy one.  or if you're super lazy, look for a .pdf copy >_>

Yes, religion is fascinating... But I won't read the Bible because I already know the story. I'd be wasting my time. Besides, it has bad reviews. If only there was a film adaptation directed by and starring Mel Gibson...

The bible was an erotic porn comic at start but it was changed for 1500 years by some lame fanatic poets. No one realy knows what was the bible at start. It could be even the bible of loli at the beginning. Even i would start to believe in it if i knew("not because of loli"and i did read it all T_T)

Interestingly enough this is completely plausible... there's no evidence to the contrary.

Can you stop a bullet going through your brain? Can you stop rain from falling? Can you make the sun rise or set? There are so many things about our lives we can't control, to think we can is foolish. Religion or not.

I don't think God can do those things either.

Valid question: Is Mangled edgy for making this thread?

Someone came to me, they complained, told me the lounge was dead, told me that it was overrun by stupid people, told me it was boring. I provide compelling, thought-provoking and taboo-breaking discussion opportunities whilst amusing myself simultaneously.

If the world was mine there shouldn't even be religious education. (I mean, people do have to know about religion, but the school itself shouldn't be religous)

That's secular education, and I agree all education should be secular.

Religious education/studies as a subject is very important since religion is such a large part of human culture. It was through Religious studies that I realised I was an atheist.

I would have to disagree with that. I went to a christian high school. Smaller classrooms, nicer teachers, and higher grading standards... I really see no complaint other than there is a religious faculty.

Let me rewrite that for you. Smaller classrooms, biased Christian teachers, impressionable and obeying students, biased Christian grading standards. Was there religious studies as a subject? By which I mean looking at other religions without bias and comparing them? I think not.

Secular education is very important for allowing the student to decide on their own beliefs for themselves. Just the same as a secular childhood is very important for allowing the child to decide on their own beliefs for themselves.

If beliefs are not a part of your own self-discovery free from forceful influences then they are the really the inhereted beliefs of someone else. Or are you going to deny that your beliefs are the result of being raised and educated in a Christian environment?

[Smegma]

'God is love' is actually a very modern ideology that is purposely obscure and what Christians often use as a 'get out of argument free' card. God isn't love, God is a grey-haired bearded giant who watches over you from the clouds and he created everything. Love is real, don't confuse the two.

Its odd how you can hate something that you know so little about.

That's secular education, and I agree all education should be secular.

Religious education/studies as a subject is very important since religion is such a large part of human culture. It was through Religious studies that I realised I was an atheist.

You mean, this is all you learned in those courses?

[Graham]

Actually yes there was a class specifically to learn about other religions.

What does it mean when people brought up religious turn out to not be religious? Or when people brought up secular become religious?

My beliefs are a result of my life. If I didn't have my faith I wouldn't be alive right now.


Oh and btw our grading scale is harder on the students than every secular school around. We generally test higher.


Gasp.

[Mangled*]

Its odd how you can hate something that you know so little about.

I apparently know more about it than a lot of people who believe in it. I hate religion for what it is, in my opinion it being a shameless self-promoting lie cast upon billions through the pretence of superiority and social status which leaves said people living in ignorance and often hatred of those who believe in a slightly different version of it.

You mean, this is all you learned in those courses?

Not 'courses', just a mandatory subject at school. It only took about 3 lessons for me to realise I was an athiest. The teacher was Catholic but taught in a secular manner.

We are taught the simple differences between religions and specifically what those beliefs involve in an unbiased way.

Actually yes there was a class specifically to learn about other religions.

I'm mildly impressed.

What does it mean when people brought up religious turn out to not be religious?

It means they've looked at the facts and not allowed their judgement and perception to be clouded by faith or guilt or misinformation.

Or when people brought up secular become religious?

It means they require a social affectation.

My beliefs are a result of my life. If I didn't have my faith I wouldn't be alive right now.

Elaborate. Please. You mean, if you suddenly lost your faith you'd spontaneously die?

Oh and btw our grading scale is harder on the students than every secular school around. We generally test higher.

Do you have proof of that or is that just propaganda spread by the teachers?

Gasp.

[Graham]

It means they've looked at the facts and not allowed their judgement and perception to be clouded by faith or guilt or misinformation.
It means they require a social affectation.

Can you provide proof?

Elaborate. Please. You mean, if you suddenly lost your faith you'd spontaneously die?

A few battles with depression, only thing that kept me going was my faith.

Do you have proof of that or is that just propaganda spread by the teachers?

Me and my principal would have long talks sometimes, this subject came up sometimes. Also there were academic contests held(Don't know if it was statewide or half state....wide) We placed first or second in plenty of them, I never went but we had a lot of folks go and do well. My buddy won chemistry his senior year.

[Smegma]

Not 'courses', just a mandatory subject at school. It only took about 3 lessons for me to realise I was an athiest. The teacher was Catholic but taught in a secular manner.

We are taught the simple differences between religions and specifically what those beliefs involve in an unbiased way

If all you think of is a grey old man, it seems your teacher didn't know anything.

[Demonic]

Mangled, may I point you towards reddit's atheism section?

'cause this ain't a 'compelling, thought-provoking and taboo-breaking discussion opportunity' but a verbal jerk-off.

[Boblekonvolutt]

'cause this ain't a 'compelling, thought-provoking and taboo-breaking discussion opportunity' but a verbal jerk-off.

But it's fun to see people presenting their ideas as fact and getting blown away...

[ValiS]

The world HAS developed difernetly then what God intended according to the bible, since that contains the rules and regulations, which were not followed by all people and therefore we live in a diferent society then what was intended, once again in relation to the bible.

Whats the use of a god when we can control our own lives?

Can you stop a bullet going through your brain? Can you stop rain from falling? Can you make the sun rise or set?


There are so many things about our lives we can't control, to think we can is foolish. Religion or not.

On the question about Bible being outdated. It's not, the same problems people had then, we have now. The Bible actually has something to say about this issue:

Ecclesiastes 1:9:
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.(NIV)

WTF. Learn to argue please.
He specifically sayd: since that contains the rules and regulations, which were not followed by all people and therefore we live in a diferent society.

Keyword: people
not followed by all people and therefore we live in a diferent society

I seriously don´t understand why you start talking about rain and sun. How are they relevant, if the topic was people not following god´s rules? Thats a prime example of taking things out of context.

Are you saying people then ("jesus´" time) had to deal with abortions, organ transplants, sex change, etc?

PS. I dont much care for bible quotes. Especially when the same thing is repeated three times over in a sentence.