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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #180 on: June 14, 2017, 10:31:00 am »
I'm saying servers weren't "shut down", since we created a replacement quickly. The anquish from bad news is understandable though, it's been that or no news at all. Hopefully we can turn that around soonish.
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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #181 on: June 14, 2017, 03:25:29 pm »
Zabijaka servers were unfortunately shut down, and this topic is about those servers.

Im working on a replacement servers as we speak. Helloer wasnt kind enough to give me some sort of a notice before oblitirating the servers. Going as far as completely deleting them from my acc on zabijaka so i wasnt even able to grab configs ans scripts.

I exchanged texts with him today and apparenly hes away and is not able to access his laptop and send me those.

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #182 on: June 15, 2017, 06:52:13 am »
Ok so I've reached an agreement with jrgp which resulted in 2 DE based servers. Unfortunately helloer insists i stop using zabijaka.pl as the official name so I had to change it to:

#NewHope CTF (old zabijaka)

88.198.8.206:25160
88.198.8.206:25140

I'll be adding scripts as soon as helloer comes back from his trip and sends me those.

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #183 on: June 15, 2017, 10:36:58 am »
Well, zabijaka or even zabijaka.pl is not registered trademark/name in Poland and EU, its just registered domain site by Consulting Service Sp. z o.o.
Quick look on KRS(sprawdzałem też listy: uprp.pl euipo, tmdn.org i ZTUE i tylko nazwa "INSTINKT ZABIJAKA" jest zarejestrowana) and you will find out that only company "Logika" and another domain "wave.com.pl" are related to zabijaka.pl
And because of that, I dont see any legal obstacles to use that name for game server, even if its used by other company(that if really wanted to keep it, should register it properly)


Of course with all due respect to Helloer, he can ask you to not use it, but if we take in to the account that zabijaka servers are one of most known in Soldat, restoring name of this servers will seriously help keeping good atmosphere and bring back users that thought its dead.
So as a player(even if not active) I would suggest restoring its name, even as "Zabijaka" without .pl at end because it would be just good for game and players

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #184 on: June 16, 2017, 07:41:29 am »
Well, zabijaka or even zabijaka.pl is not registered trademark/name in Poland and EU, its just registered domain site by Consulting Service Sp. z o.o.
Quick look on KRS(sprawdzałem też listy: uprp.pl euipo, tmdn.org i ZTUE i tylko nazwa "INSTINKT ZABIJAKA" jest zarejestrowana) and you will find out that only company "Logika" and another domain "wave.com.pl" are related to zabijaka.pl
And because of that, I dont see any legal obstacles to use that name for game server, even if its used by other company(that if really wanted to keep it, should register it properly)


Of course with all due respect to Helloer, he can ask you to not use it, but if we take in to the account that zabijaka servers are one of most known in Soldat, restoring name of this servers will seriously help keeping good atmosphere and bring back users that thought its dead.
So as a player(even if not active) I would suggest restoring its name, even as "Zabijaka" without .pl at end because it would be just good for game and players


That is a good point - I changed the names to Zabijaka! CTF#1 and Zabijaka! CTF#2

Also I'm looking for server admins willing to spend some time on the servers to get them going again. Please send applications to bonecrusher1@o2.pl

It's only me and Flex atm.

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #185 on: June 16, 2017, 09:24:57 am »
Actually, i think not, as far as i "know"

Trademarks don't mean everything.  There is this thing called "common law" or smth

If helloer have used zabijaka.pl publicly before you, he has some rights to it..and that would probably be a legit claim.


And of course no one registers trademarks because that cost couple hundreds at minimum and are registered per country anyway, it's a just additional layer of protection.

 "SOLDAT" is even registered to hell knows who but THD..  there can even be multiple companies that register same trademark text.

It's court or soldat lobby owner who says yes or no.


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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #186 on: June 16, 2017, 11:32:49 am »
Trademarks don't mean everything.
In real world, yes it mean everything. Dont mix reality with internet laws.

If helloer have used zabijaka.pl publicly before you, he has some rights to it..and that would probably be a legit claim.
No it doesnt have any right if its not registered and protected by international, European or Country law.

Just because You had or have site: potatoes.com it doesnt mean that you can demand right to that name, and ask others to not use it.
You have right to use domain "potatoes.com" not to name potatoes.


Not to mention that zabijaka world is common world in polish language, that mean "killer", and you cant register such world. You can register logo or name in specific font, not word it self.

And of course no one registers trademarks because that cost couple hundreds at minimum and are registered per country anyway, it's a just additional layer of protection.

Again, no. If you dont know something dont talk about it... and especially dont mix it with "internet laws"

Cost of registering trademark in Poland is about 130$ + 120$ for first 3 years of trademark protection.
For International trademark and EUIPO protection, you need 1000$ for 3 years.

"SOLDAT" is even registered to hell knows who but THD..  there can even be multiple companies that register same trademark text.
Soldat as a word is not owned by anyone, because guess what? its French world for "Soldier", and you cant trademark such word.

As for Soldat logo... I cant find it in any international, european or polish trademark database.
Not in EUIP, not in IPaTS or even in Polish listing.
And as i said you cant register common words, but logos or words ONLY IN SPECIFIC FONT/STYLE.

I will not even mention that soldat logo use "predator" font that probably violate original author license....



It's court or soldat lobby owner who says yes or no.

hahahahhaha. Damn that was good!
Court is not Internet. In court whats matter is paper, date and signature. For most of time in this order.
And as for Lobby owner, of course he can block it, but it would rather violate your "common" freedom law....



Seriously dont drill that topic, I know just basic of trademark law, because with my father we had registered company and I still have copy emails where lawyer explained me how to register it via internet. But you just blown my mind with comparing actual law to internet "common law".
« Last Edit: June 16, 2017, 11:38:01 am by Akinaro »

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #187 on: June 16, 2017, 12:34:03 pm »
I saw you coming.. have you every sent me an email?


Who even said somethin about internet.


There is such thing as "internet common law" ?

I tell you even if you dont have trademark it doesn't necessry matter that you dont have rights to brand.

Internet is full of copyright type violation you are spreding misinformation.


You wrong..


They even operate in same area soldat server name vs soldat server name.

You can sell candy named "Zabijaka" nobody woudl care.


You register trademark in Poland. and it's just like Poland nobody cares in China.


You can want to claim everything you want..at the end is authority who decide.

Seriously dont drill that topic, I know just basic of trademark law, because with my father we had registered company and I still have copy emails where lawyer explained me how to register it via internet. But you just blown my mind with comparing actual law to internet "common law".
You only know what someone will tell you.

You are a mistake in realy world you can sue and fight for everything.
You don't have to register trademarks to have common rights.



@TradeMAAK ,, you are from here? ....

« Last Edit: June 16, 2017, 12:36:00 pm by daaw »

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #188 on: June 16, 2017, 12:38:09 pm »
Hey,  I have a server and want to run a proper CTF Trench War realistic mode server, can someone help me out here?
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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #189 on: June 16, 2017, 12:41:45 pm »
/,;/,;/,;.. that's you.. ?


Apparently i have never truly settled down with there ppl...


Oh yeah , I like Zabijaka, have been playing there for years.

I alos recommend to cling to that name. I just wanted to point possible misinformation.


Peace and love to Soldat.

« Last Edit: June 16, 2017, 02:43:50 pm by daaw »

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #190 on: June 16, 2017, 04:41:34 pm »
I'm looking for someone who is willing to code a proper balance script which takes into account team scores and switches players between teams accordingly so the game is somewhat fair.

Also need a redirect script which will redirect player to the next server when they are trying to join a full one


And still looking for server admins

Hey,  I have a server and want to run a proper CTF Trench War realistic mode server, can someone help me out here?

https://wiki.soldat.pl/index.php/Server

Please create a fresh topic in the help section of the forum
« Last Edit: June 16, 2017, 04:43:11 pm by Bonecrusher »

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #191 on: July 14, 2017, 01:02:58 pm »
Could really use some light anti spec idle script. If x minutes pass - ban for a small amount of time

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Re: Zabijaka's.pl Servers
« Reply #192 on: July 19, 2017, 05:07:26 pm »
New admin: colin

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