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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2010, 08:26:37 pm »
I have no problem with Apple keeping a single signature style, regardless of whether they do it just to be more recognizable or because it is a waste of money coming up with new designs/styles all the time.

Who really cares about how a laptop (or computer) looks though?  I would think people should care about how they work.  If someone is buying a computer for looks or judging computers by their looks, I hardly think they should be pointing fingers at mac fans and users and calling them names because they have pretty computers or whatever :P

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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2010, 08:45:12 pm »
They manage resources in such a way and don't incorporate "planned obsolescence" so upgrading them as often as you upgrade pc's isn't necessary.

Half a year ago I installed Windows 7 on a six year old computer for my mom.  The only upgrade she's had since buying the thing is an extra 512MB of RAM (taking the computer up to a meager gig of RAM).  Guess what? It works just fine, with no lag or anything.  "Planned obsolescence" honestly seems like a nonsense term to me; if you're not writing programs to take advantage of the latest hardware, you're doing it wrong.  It's that simple.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2010, 09:07:24 pm »
Writing programs to use the resources made available to them is one thing, but writing an OS that is as light as possible while still being functional is great.  OS X is a bit heavier than I'd like it to be but is great, I have to say that Windows 7 seems to be better than Vista at that game, but XP will forever be lighter than 7 or Vista.

I've always been of the opinion that an OS should not have higher system requirements than most of the software you'll ever run on it, that is why 7 and Vista have rubbed me the wrong way from the start.

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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2010, 09:52:54 pm »
Why do most graphic designers/digital artists/video editors and other media specialists use Macs?

If you know what it could be - share your thoughts and put my mind at ease.

Use a macbook if it matches your prius, your womens' jeans and your starbucks latte.
I really wish I hadn't got a macbook, but it was a gift and beggars can't be choosers. There is no customization (two color schemes: blue and grey or grey and grey), it doesn't run anything fun, blahr blarh blarh. Can't even mod Soldat as well, I'd give my left big toe for microsoft paint and windows sound recorder. I'm glad I don't do digital art, all I use the mac for in my art is scanning and uploading.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2010, 09:58:15 pm »
XP will forever be lighter than 7 or Vista.

Utterly meaningless.  Windows 3.1 will forever be lighter than Windows 95 or Windows XP, but it also doesn't do as much.  Increased functionality means increased resource usage, and if I'm still using Windows 7 in five years (which is very likely), the system requirements for it will seem negligible.  I'm sure XP seemed like it had ridiculous hardware requirements when it came out, but guess what? Computers got better.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2010, 10:23:49 pm »
You guys seriously over think this. Using a Mac is not different than using a PC. They both run programs, and surf the internet. Not to mention both have a good amount of designing programs.

You don't need to be so picky.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2010, 10:42:12 pm »
Macs are good for work because you won't have any good games to play on them olololo
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2010, 10:58:16 pm »
XP will forever be lighter than 7 or Vista.

Utterly meaningless.  Windows 3.1 will forever be lighter than Windows 95 or Windows XP, but it also doesn't do as much.  Increased functionality means increased resource usage, and if I'm still using Windows 7 in five years (which is very likely), the system requirements for it will seem negligible.  I'm sure XP seemed like it had ridiculous hardware requirements when it came out, but guess what? Computers got better.

That's fine, you're picking on something that was merely one passing comment/small part of what I was saying.   To date, Vista/7's requirements surpass almost any application that someone would run on it except for the most demanding games and rendering/other intensive applications (particularly memory requirements).

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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2010, 11:18:20 pm »
That's fine, you're picking on something that was merely one passing comment/small part of what I was saying

It's the one thing that really bugged me is all. ;)
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2010, 12:49:10 am »
Ill try to avoid such topics 1 week after talking to a fanboy over it.
They are like goddamn walking promotion panels, and they dont even have to get paid for it.

Before i start raging again: with an Apple product you buy the name, almost everything else is possible on win/linux, just a bit different.
Its similar to comparing Photoshop with The Gimp (not a good one, but still), they can do the same, it needs just a bit of modding.
As espadon said, it comes to the end user and his experience with it.

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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2010, 01:44:40 am »
I have no problem with Apple keeping a single signature style, regardless of whether they do it just to be more recognizable or because it is a waste of money coming up with new designs/styles all the time.

Who really cares about how a laptop (or computer) looks though?  I would think people should care about how they work.  If someone is buying a computer for looks or judging computers by their looks, I hardly think they should be pointing fingers at mac fans and users and calling them names because they have pretty computers or whatever :P

I guess design is more important to some people than others.  If you like to see the world through numbers, then you probably dont really care much about the design.  If I like the look of something (and as long as its not madly overpriced for the specifications) I will feel better about owning it.  In fact I don't really have any problems with not using powerful equipment, it all gets out dated sooner or later, but my ergonomic experience with it will keep me happy for a long time.

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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2010, 05:04:35 am »

That's fine, you're picking on something that was merely one passing comment/small part of what I was saying.   To date, Vista/7's requirements surpass almost any application that someone would run on it except for the most demanding games and rendering/other intensive applications (particularly memory requirements).

I can actually agree here that windows 7 is heavier than it should have been. Rumour has it that Microsoft is aiming for the next windows version to be more lightweight and faster than 7. And we can all agree that vista was a bloated bag of bile in that regard.

Although I have recently gone from XP to W7, and can't really say that I am experiencing any noticeable difference in performance on anything really. But I had 4 GB of ram, and I heard XP 32-bit could only use 3GB of them. Another reason to upgrade I guess.

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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2010, 05:17:33 am »
As a Media student/video editor for 7 years, I can say that the only reason why I'd want to buy a Mac is because Final Cut Pro is increasingly overtaking Avid as the professional industry standard for video editing (and good thing too, Avid is s**t), and it's only available for Macs.

Other than that, Macs being "better for the creative industries" is total BS. They are less compatible, not much more reliable, insanely overpriced and most of the creative design tools are available for the PC anyway.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2010, 08:31:44 am »
I guess design is more important to some people than others.  If you like to see the world through numbers, then you probably dont really care much about the design. 

That's subjective. I looked at the numbers and got an ugly Sager instead of a sleek MacBook.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2010, 08:52:28 am »
The real reason that people use Macs is because up until just a few years ago most people didn't realise you could get Adobe Photoshop on Windows.

Apple products will always be overpriced and overrated. Their commercial success isn't down to their design or functionality, it's down to their marketing. The iPod was a fluke on Apple's part.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2010, 09:01:56 am »
Reading this thread and understanding the GENIUS part of macs...
They cost A LOT. That's why they're getting popular.
For example linux, which is five times better than both windows and mac is getting underrated, because it's free :-S
If you are going to use mac - better try linux before that :-] It's way better, and you'll feel the power over your computer. And the best part of it - it's totally free! And even more, ALL PROGRAMS FOR LINUX ARE FREE. Enjoy!

btw someone mentioned that IT guys use macs. Not true. They use linux.

P.S. don't expect that linux is going to be same as windows. It's different, and it's more intuitive.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2010, 10:01:00 am »
I guess design is more important to some people than others.  If you like to see the world through numbers, then you probably dont really care much about the design.

That's subjective. I looked at the numbers and got an ugly Sager instead of a sleek MacBook.

So...you saw the world through numbers and determined that design didn't matter?

For example linux, which is five times better than both windows and mac is getting underrated, because it's free :-S

No, it's because the other OSes have better compatibility, usability, support, and documentation.  However, I will agree with you that price == quality for me at a first glance.  Visual Studio? Better than open-source IDEs.  Microsoft Office? Better than OpenOffice.  Adobe Photoshop? Better than Paint.NET.  Regardless of whether or not that's actually the case (though I'm positive it is), that's just how I feel.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2010, 10:06:38 am »
Yes, it was better suited to my needs than a MacBook in every way except styling. It's thick, it's heavy, it sounds like a small vacuum cleaner when I game, and it looks like a 1980 Corolla reincarnated in computer form. Most of the case is a pretty strong plastic but it's slightly wavy and stuff, nothing like the laser-straight CNC'd look of the MacBooks.

Linux isn't intuitive for me; I can't even use ctrlaltdel when badly written opensource programs crash. I don't enjoy taking 10 minutes looking up commands to run on the terminal and pecking at the keys to write like bork@borkbork:~/bork/bork-sp10/borkbork/bork3$ bork * | wc -l 11835
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2010, 10:33:42 am »
I was just saying that your example didn't really prove subjectivity, since you did the exact same thing that Hair|Trigger predicted.  Fully agree with the Linux bit, though.
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Re: Why use Mac?
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2010, 11:39:12 am »
The point is that PCpretty/Macpretty is subjective and has no bearing on performance. He find PCs pretty while I think most PCs look rather garish.
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