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Offline GeneralCiv

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AK Rate of fire
« on: August 13, 2006, 05:10:33 pm »
I think the AK is much to slow in the rate of fire category, I suggest an increase in rate of fire. (even if small)

Even if you have to lower the attack power- the AK needs a faster rate of fire- and as of now shoots ALOT slower than any of the other full autos..

Check these reference videos out:
AK 47- Full Auto http://youtube.com/watch?v=-CME_JN04HA
MP5 - Full Auto http://youtube.com/watch?v=dHydAyxHHgU

I suggest going somewhere in between where the AK is now, and the MP5 is, in rate of fire.
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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2006, 05:18:22 pm »
Well, the AK is supposed to be a kind of "assault rifle". It is more accurate than other autos and deals more damage because of the slow rate of fire. If it was accurate to real life then it would basically be an MP5/Steyr. It's not really supposed to model its real world counterpart, the assault rifle type gun just needed a name and a graphic. :)

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2006, 05:28:42 pm »
True, I just think the current rate of fire doesn't do the AK justice at all.

Date Posted: August 13, 2006, 06:22:10 PM
UPDATE: I played with the rate of fire, and I think 10 (1 less point) is a good rate of fire for the AK. Nothing tremendous, but helps alot.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2006, 05:31:14 pm »
It does fire a little slow, yes, but it has high damage and is pretty accurate. Plus, its 40 round clip means it reloads fairly quick. :/

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2006, 05:33:54 pm »
Very good points Twistkill- and I agree with you about that, except I think it was taken a little TOO slow.

10 FireInterval seems more balanced to me..

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2006, 06:48:22 pm »
I agree that the gun felt much better before 1.3. If you look at the experimental balance, the fireinterval is already set to 10.

Anyhoo... The gun in Soldat is the AK-74, not AK-47. They do differ a bit, but then again none of our autos are similar to the real ones.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2006, 06:55:25 pm »
Hmm- interesting,

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2006, 02:02:21 am »
Why cant we just bring back the 1.2.1 weapons :(

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2006, 02:04:51 am »
1.2.1 weapons we're grand.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2006, 03:51:03 am »
Yeah, in my opinion the 1.2.1 settings were closest to perfect than it has ever been.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2006, 06:37:01 am »
Small startup on Barrett (smaller then current one) + 1.2.1 weapons is awesome.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2006, 10:27:27 am »
The AK-74 does not need to have its firing rate increased.  It has a long range, fairly high damage, and is fairly accurate when used correctly.  What more do you want?  A long range HK MP5?
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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2006, 01:45:39 pm »
Small startup on Barrett (smaller then current one) + 1.2.1 weapons is awesome.

NO LEAVE THE BARRET, I'm alredy too used to it.

I didn't know about the 1.2.1 weapons til lrecently,when I dloaded the old 1.2.1. I like them, but there kinda whacky to the 1.3.1 I'm used to, I've ben palying 1.3.1 since I started soldat.

the AK-74s whole purpouse waz to be an accurate strong and slow firer, if u made it any faster you'd haveta make every thing else weaker, if u made it slower, make every thing stronger, (also, the gun between the ak and the mp5 is the setyr :P)

I changed the setting around on a mod as I waz typing this, and tried it out. make the Ak 1-2 points faster and lower the damage by 1-2 points and it works a lot smoother in my opinion.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2006, 03:24:54 pm »
I think the weapons need serious attention though.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2006, 06:02:21 pm »
My french padawan and I gathered with some vets a couple of times to evaluate the 1.2 balance and make perfections. It was insanely unbalanced and everything seemed extremly overpowered compared to 1.3.1. It just got worse and worse as we tried fixing it until we scrapped the idea. Ending up with an old balance is not going to happen. The best option is to further develop 1.3.1.

Woesh... All these suggestions are kinda worthless cause I've already taken everything into consideration and made what I judge to be the best solutions. The greatest thing you could do to contribute is to comment on the experimental mod rather than the default one, ty!
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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2006, 02:03:17 am »
Why use a balanced version when we can go back to 1.2 and have everyone use deagles and AK? Surly that makes more sense  ::).

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2006, 02:42:18 am »
Yes, DEagles were the best. But if we HAVE to comment on the exp balance, ill do some more testing and tweaking of it with a few peeps.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2006, 06:41:48 pm »

I changed the setting around on a mod as I waz typing this, and tried it out. make the Ak 1-2 points faster and lower the damage by 1-2 points and it works a lot smoother in my opinion.

Lately i've noticed that MP5 and AUG fire faster and that does'nt help that i've been using the AK-74 so increasing the bullet speed would help or the fire rate i'm not thast picky about which one. Go ahead and lower the ammo or damage but I like weapons that give enemies death quickly.

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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2006, 07:49:16 pm »
ak is already strong, it does not need the added speed, if you want speed use styger mp5 or if you are desperate, minigun.
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Re: AK Rate of fire
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2006, 09:05:22 pm »
ok 1 i have shot an ak and ur right the rate is slow but and but the ak kicks so much u have to shoot slow to hit target so i think keep same thats what i think. :P

Date Posted: August 18, 2006, 10:04:15 PM
ok 1 i have shot an ak and ur right the rate is slow but and but the ak kicks so much u have to shoot slow to hit target so i think keep same thats what i think. :P