Ban hammur or karma sistem?

[Centurion]

I personally vote for karma system. Let's make it like that
if someone goes over some certain karma limit then they will be banned. You decide the limit!

[jrgp]

I don't think karma should be used as anything other than a vanity statistic, since the results are unpredictable and susceptible to ballot stuffing etc. It should definitely not be used for something as serious as bans.

Also, I'd rather you kept the title and options of polls in this board serious, as opposed to broken leetspeak.

[Espadon]

Democracy is stupid when constituents are stupid.

[DarkCrusade]

I voted for the almighty ban hammer that already glows in some moderators hands, because as Espadon alreadz stated democracy fails completly when touching the internet.

[Espadon]

I don't think the forum is resilient enough right now to handle a good banhammering either. It'll be like trying to drain the blood of someone with anemia here.

[[SIRS]Foxconn^^2012]

Banhammer.

[Centurion]

Also, I'd rather you kept the title and options of polls in this board serious, as opposed to broken leetspeak.

lolz. sarru


Actually it wasn't leetspeak at all. Leetspeak should've been something like that: b4N H@MM3R 0R k4rM4 5Y$T3m?

Anyway. I agree with karma system leading to bans seems too rough punishment.

I guess other option is just to let the banhammer strike.
But accordingly to Espadon - I have no idea what should be done.

[Espadon]

I mean even though I think Foxconn and Shard are kinda gay, it's only because they're young. I think I might miss em if they got hammered away.

baww you just reminded me how much I miss the days when flamingo was still here. Back then pzcw was trollin jrgp in the lounge every other week and t was a moderator, and people were making fun of dascoo's hair or something and flamingo was trolling away with his 4chanisms. And we'd have threads like the hot chick thread and stuff.

It's so boring now all we get are moralfags like MattH lool

[Furai]

How about warning system? Moderators will give warnings to trolls - if they reach 100% they'll be banned out of forums.

[DarkCrusade]

It's already like that. Were you never warned?

[Espadon]

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Muting I think is better than bannage, anyways.

[Furai]

Nope, I wasn't. Is it bad?

[Espadon]

It doesn't really do anything until you get muted tbh. I sort of liked the old title system where offenders were tattooed with a warning for all to see lol

Maybe we should make it that people that become too annoying get their profiles abused by the mods ololololo

[Demonic]

It doesn't really do anything until you get muted tbh. I sort of liked the old title system where offenders were tattooed with a warning for all to see lol

Maybe we should make it that people that become too annoying get their profiles abused by the mods ololololo

I got the impression that this was already what we do.

[-Skykanden-]

Karma will not come back, that has been discussed a milion times!

There should be more people banned those days, too many trolls and stupid people.
I also agree with Espadon's comment about democracy

BTW: Centurion, weren't you the one who dreamt to be soldier? Then it's hillarous the way you post your comments E.g. LULZ11 I R 1337. Now really not funny

[Centurion]

No. It wasn't me. I do not post for postcount. I post whenever I feel like, if the thread I'm posting in seems interesting or I have some knowledge about the topic.
And I never wrote in leetspeak. Maybe sometimes but not often.

About that warning system: That will work but the warning point amount should be increased and there are too few rules. I mean, you should be "awarded" with warning points even if you flame or post stupid replies to topics. The current warning thing seems kinda soft for me. Even though I have received around 110 warning points so far, it almost even got me banned.

[jrgp]

And I never wrote in leetspeak. Maybe sometimes but not often.

Okay, I didn't strictly mean leetspeak as in where you substitute numbers/symbols for the letters. I guess a more appropriate term would be "garbage speak":

- ban hammur every1 lolololz
- noen of em abov, sumtin elsse
- karma system, smiet every1 lulz

[demoniac93]

Yeah, power corrupts fast.
Freedom is power, democracy is freedom, so...(You may take this whatever way you want)
I say ban hammer.
But make it an epic one, like a few months ago when Demonic went ape s**t after a beer too many.
Sorry, Esp.

[Espadon]

Yeah, power corrupts fast.
Freedom is power, democracy is freedom, so...

I'm interested in what you want to say here. Keep going.

[jrgp]

Yeah, power corrupts fast.
Freedom is power, democracy is freedom, so...(You may take this whatever way you want)

I don't think either of these sentences apply to online communities.

[Centurion]

And I never wrote in leetspeak. Maybe sometimes but not often.

I guess a more appropriate term would be "garbage speak":

Yeah. I guess that might be the correct term for that

Anyway. There's no need to bullshit around this topic until it reaches 205 pages. So, what's it going to be?

[pavliko]

Both should be added.
banhammer for bans and karma for just to be sure

[Espadon]

I'm gonna click 'view votes' to see who voted for banhammer and ban those people.

[Furai]

Oh noes. Bb forums.

[[SIRS]Foxconn^^2012]

Then i will kill you, esp.

[Demonic]

so what does it feel like. i mean, making half the staff twitch.

by the way, did anyone else notice that you can't really refer to the 'oldies' anymore because there's none of them left :<

[Espadon]

demo i always thought you were an oldie

along with gram and kazuki

[Mitak]

Karma system as a Profile -> Modify Profile -> Look and Layout on/off option. When off, others' votes will still add up but your karma won't be open to the public.

[Espadon]

There's no reason to have karma if it's not public. You might as well just keep a personal log of your karma offline.

[jrgp]

Did xurich disappear?

[Blue-ninja]

I had five warning levels

Then that faggob carlitos person topped it with 21 warnings or something

I still think Dascoo would be the king of noobery, because of his slooowly lengthing bans, loooooooooool

[L[0ne]R]

First I supported karma system, but now my support has weakened a bit mainly because... we already have a better feature called "report to moderator". Though I'm not sure if most users here know how to use this feature properly.

To be honest, I almost never use this feature simply because I never pay attention to the lower-right corner of the posts, so the "report to moderator" button always slipped past my eyes until recently. I wonder if it's just me...
Maybe it would be better to move the "logged" link somewhere else and make the "report to moderator" as a button that would be more noticeable?

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I support karma system as more of a "fun" feature, but not something used as a reason for banning because like Espadon said, there are users who are not exactly "cool" but are still not bad people who don't deserve a ban.
To prevent abuse there can be no negative karma, only positive. And a maximum of, let's say, +50 karma. So if you get +karma - that's good. If you have 0 - it doesn't make you a bad person either.

[jrgp]

I support karma system as more of a "fun" feature, but not something used as a reason for banning because like Espadon said, there are users who are not exactly "cool" but are still not bad people who don't deserve a ban.
To prevent abuse there can be no negative karma, only positive. And a maximum of, let's say, +50 karma. So if you get +karma - that's good. If you have 0 - it doesn't make you a bad person either.

Isn't one of the main points of karma to motivate people with low/negative karma to do better? If 0 is the lowest you can get and it's socially acceptable, then nothing really is achieved. I think it should be able to go negative, start at zero, and people who fluctuate around 0 should be regarded as "ok."

But anyway karma is mostly pointless when you have very few active members, which seems to be the case here.

[L[0ne]R]

Good point... but from what I've seen, some people actually WANT negative karma and would deliberately ask others to -K them.
Also, some like to feel special, so "nothing really achieved" can already be enough of a motivator for some.

For motivation there has to be some sort of reward other than having a high karma. A medal below an avatar maybe?

[DarkCrusade]

@Loner: Medalhunting > Starhunting

I think green and red numbers should be enough to make everyone happy. People with -50 karma get fisted by Chakra.

[jrgp]

@Loner: Medalhunting > Starhunting

I think green and red numbers should be enough to make everyone happy. People with -50 karma get fisted by Chakra.

Personally I think having any text colored other than black (and the blueish color the links are) in the user side of a post is distracting as hell.

[DarkCrusade]

Use a low saturation and there will be no problem

[Gizd]

@Loner: Medalhunting > Starhunting

That's why people would be nice to each other to get the medal... or they'll cheat.

[Mitak]

Though I'm not sure if most users here know how to use this feature properly.

To be honest, I almost never use this feature

[[SIRS]Foxconn^^2012]

I mean even though I think Foxconn and Shard are kinda gay

I selected the ban hammer because it WORKS for gods sake!

[DarkCrusade]

Espadons banhammer glows in an evil fashion.

[10th_account]

The custom title could reflect one's karma, instead of it being based on post count. "Rainbow Warrior" or whatever could be a result of 50+ karma. At -5 and below the custom title wouldn't be displayed at all.

It does feel a bit redundant with the current interface to have a post count, stars, and a custom title that all reflect the same thing.

So just show the stars instead of the post count and a custom title based on karma. But don't show the actual karma value.

[DarkCrusade]

@10th_account: This sounds very rational, but people are idiots when it comes to their personal rank (online hierarchy and stuff..). Rational people will choose something like you suggested, but everyone else will hate it.

[100% not captain ben]

bring back karma how it used to be... what the f**k is with all this gay 'if it falls beneath a certain number you get banned' bulls**t

it was hell funny last time because jrgpoo was -2000 because people were coming on once a day just to vote him down and all the s**tty people were all asspained if their numbers went negative

f**k that s**t was funny

[Blacksheepboy]

and all the s**tty people were all asspained if their numbers went negative

haha I used to be one of them. had forgotten about this

[DarkCrusade]

Yeah, see, people always abuse abusable features

[Furai]

So think of point system where there is no negative values - only positive. So basically if you like what forumer've said you give him a point.

[Espadon]

You're dense if you think there's a feature that can't be abused. Thanks-whoring will happen just like group smiting. "You give me 1 thanks I give you 1 thanks"

Then comes the butthurt: "omg I maek useful p0sts all the tiem but i haev low thanx"