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Asking for help!
« on: January 23, 2011, 04:44:26 pm »
Searching a man who can create waypoints for my own map.
Please,help!

From: January 23, 2011, 04:52:32 pm
Soon i'll add screenshot of map,if it's necessary

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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 05:27:08 pm »
Ok.... first off, it would be useful to include any sceneries that didn't come with the original soldat... notice my first screenshot, I have a fair few missing!

Secondly... there are no spawns for anything, no player spawns, team spawns etc. I would suggest adding some (see other attachment).

I have also added a wireframe diagram of the map... it's generally good practise not to overlap polygons that much.. you notice how your player bounces alot on the poly's? that's what happens.

I like the general feel of the map, the ideas and the general look, just needs some polishing up before people invest their time in fully waypointing the thing :)
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 02:41:46 pm »
I could pick up the challenge. Can I do some changes too a bit?
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 02:55:34 pm »
If Terran does not wish to rework all the poly's, I think you're going to have to...
I would seriously suggest doing that... it is SO jumpy atm.
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 04:02:05 pm »
That's my first map,do not judge strictly^^
If you want to fix bugs,i am not against that)Then i'll add you to credits and tell great thanx to you)

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This map i created for elite!zombie survival
and blue team(zombies) must go down to the underground bunker,where,after some time,survivors(red team) will keep defence)
So i need waypoints just for Bravo Team.
What about sceneries...cuz of there are lots of them,i think i should download Soldat Map Packer first..yes?

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Yes,you can :) I asked for your help today so you can do some changes)But not total hehe

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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 04:36:39 pm »
aah ok :)
Well I like the whole layout of it, I can imagine going into a zombie server and seeing something akin to this!

The sort of thing I'm on about is in the pics...
I had a quick little tackle of the green bit there, to make it more 'player-friendly' as such...

I don't know whether you or Monsteri want to tackle the whole thing together?
He could probably do some nice shading on it too if the poly's didn't overlap!
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 07:59:47 am »
Well, before I start, you should pack that properly with MPA.
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 08:43:56 am »
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*__* i dunno how to draw textures like u've done *_*

And i repacked map.I understood that i uploaded here older version of map.
I fixed there polygons and they doesn't bounce your soldier now...i hope..:)

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Now reuploaded to the last one.With all sceneries which are included.
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 09:11:07 am »
Thanks. You can use this tool to make different colours, and shading.


Btw, this is inf I guess?
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 09:49:07 am »
Yes,I think it is :)
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 10:10:39 am »
I'm pretty well on it, but I want to say now: Don't use that much small small polygons, they are really bouncy, and there are too many useless polygons. And There is an another way to perform looks, too. Try to learn it for the picture below, and take a look also for and tw_coldmorning. I guess you still get the idea.
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 01:20:48 pm »
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*__* i dunno how to draw textures like u've done *_*

What program are you using? Polyworks as shown by Monsteri?
If so, follow the instructions in the image. to make shading look good, you need to have a good polygon structure - not overlapping :P
NOTE: The circle you see in step 4 is the 'radius' and can be changed by editing the value in the Radius box in the palette.

Now reuploaded to the last one.With all sceneries which are included.
Thanks!

@Monsteri: I think the simplest way of re-polying the map is to do a print-screen of it, then add it to sceneries? would save alot of time that way.

From: January 25, 2011, 02:14:07 pm
as of now I'm re-polying the entire thing :L

From: January 25, 2011, 06:05:06 pm
Also attached: current progress...
I know the shading isn't the best job, however I haven't mapped all that much to know...
Thoughts?
You can see the faint image of the design underneath it..
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2011, 01:21:11 am »
Hmm you just stole my work. I send that what I have done already to you then, now? I still wp it.
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2011, 03:35:22 am »
Actually, it's probably best the other way round... You're a more experienced mapper xD
I'm not too far off finishing the poly'ing of it all, I know the shading will need some improving and I've not really had any experience with doing sceneries for this kinda map..
I'll upload it here soon for you to upgrade :)
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2011, 07:22:10 am »
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I think that those black lines in ur picture shows old polygon's positions?That's useful thing!

And about what useless sceneries you have told me yesterday?

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I think i use the same PW as Monsteri.Just another skin :D
but i hate learning manuals...like to explore smth by myself :)
And here is the point of all my mistakes :)

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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2011, 07:29:54 am »
Yes I drew a sketch about up part, before I removed all the polys. Then I remade them, I could of course do that for all the map, but my job was to waypoint this, I think, so you can do the rest on your own when I'm done.
   About the sceneries, there were many sceneries excatly in same place, and excatly same scenery (polys like that also here and there) so I removed them. And there were too too much sceneries, felt too narrow so I removed some others too. (tootootootoo)

EDIT: I want to show you some progress, and say also, that look at this:
Before                                  After:
       

Look at how amazing effects good shading can do! -I haven't touched these polygons at all, just shaded them, and look at it. I'm not trying to tell how good I am, just wanted to carriage you.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2011, 08:16:58 am by Monsteri »
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2011, 10:30:40 am »
Well.. there are NO sceneries in this update, since I think it'd be better if you two figure the best combo for that...
And there's no way points.. (however the alpha bots sorta naturally go through the tunnels though without waypoints o.0).
Find attached the map simply re-poly'd and shaded...

The only changes I've made from the original layout are:
a) Raised the roof - alpha drop from above by parachute :)
b) The furthest right part of the tunnel I made a bit wider than the original because it was hard to get through

Other than that, I've quickly placed objects (spawns for players, flags, packs, and a stat gun carefully positioned inside the bunker).

Thoughts?
« Last Edit: January 26, 2011, 10:35:08 am by thegrandmaster »
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2011, 11:11:22 am »
Well, good job, but now you made all my works unnecessary. I didn't want to make all the map for Terran, but eh.  :|
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Re: Asking for help!
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2011, 11:26:20 am »
Ohh!! sorry I misunderstood...got ahead of myself.
However... if you have the waypoints on your version, I can import them into the version I have - they are pretty much identical in size etc.

Could you upload what you've done so far? I'll have a go at joining them.
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2011, 11:47:56 am »
I will do it.
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