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M4-Carbine back

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Remove Minigun and add m4

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Offline SoldatFire

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M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« on: February 25, 2011, 06:04:50 pm »
M4-Carbine from v0.97b. 
Hi. So i never seen before the m4 from Soldat till today and I'm wondering why it got removed?And why should it not be returned to life..
So give your ideas and suggestions...
PS.This was the weapon:   http://wiki.soldat.nl/M4-Carbine

and i found 1 more "dead" weapon:   http://wiki.soldat.nl/Colt_1911
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 06:29:50 pm »
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 06:42:00 pm »
Cause he failed at adding poll to the first one...

On topic - I don't really care about it but I'd rather leave aug.
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 07:11:04 pm »
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=39723.0;topicseen

why creating 2 topics ?
yes i got a problem"not cause of poll" and and at end i got 2 topics and i send a message to the admins/moderators to remove the one...
« Last Edit: February 25, 2011, 07:13:06 pm by SoldatFire »
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 07:17:53 pm »
I don't see a reason why M4 should be brought back. Actually, I don't think M4 was ever removed in the first place - it was just remade into Steyr AUG. :P
Visually Steyr AUG fits Soldat arsenal much better. Unlike M4 (which is closer to MP5 and AK in its shape), AUG has a very unique shape, so it adds more variety than M4 would. M4 just looks kinda generic - every single modern-warfare shooter has a similar gun.

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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 07:42:41 pm »
M4 was remade to Aug in terms of appearance, probably for the reason Loner stated.

Colt 1911 was changed to USSOCOM for the obvious reason of keeping things a bit realistic and updated. Colt 1911 is a .45 pistol with 7 ammo. MM probably wanted to buff the pistol by adding more ammo. To make sense of the change, the 7-ammo Colt 1911 is replaced with the more modern USSOCOM, another .45 pistol but with 12 ammo.

If you still want the M4, you can just change the Aug to the M4 by modding. Afterall, the two would have been the same gun balance-wise.

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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 07:51:07 pm »
What would you prefer to have:
This sexy beast
Or this generic US rifle

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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 07:55:02 pm »
The generic US rifle looks better.

Does anyone have the GFX/SFX of this still?
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 09:49:30 pm »
yeah sfx and gfx would be cool :)
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 11:08:03 pm »
Correction.

Which would you rather have:




(Just felt like I needed to post that, because you posted a pic of a 22lr M4)

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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 02:57:50 am »
Steyr still looks better. :P

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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 05:20:19 am »
What L[0ne]R said.
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2011, 06:23:22 am »
nobody should care about the wepons how they look... u can remove all on ur own and take other graphics... so its pointless...since u anyway can do it for ur own soldat :)

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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 06:43:17 am »
Well, default looks should be cared at, because it's the ORIGINAL Soldat, and that's what newbies see.
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2011, 08:21:13 am »
The M4 looks better for me..
maybe the minigun should be removed cause it is somthing like a... spam lag "noob" weapon maybe remove it and add m4 so like:
1.DE
2.HK
3.AK
4.M4
5.AUG
6.SPAS
7.RUGER
8.M79
9.FNminimi( maybe now with 100 amma like the real  :-\  )
10.Barrett
???
« Last Edit: February 26, 2011, 08:34:21 am by SoldatFire »
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 09:09:15 am »
Or maybe, the devs working hard to improve bugs will help minigun by improving the netcode a bit.

Minimi have 100 ammo!? Are you serious? 50 is already bordering on too much :L

And don't change the numbers!!
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2011, 10:07:06 am »
The Minigun is a very nice gun which adds a lot of diversity to the game. You can minigun-surf to gain pace which helps you taking down EFCs or score. On the other hand, you can use it to block routes and it can kill very fast if you just know how to aim it. Most players don't play a lot with the Minigun, so they cannot use its whole potential. So my advice is: learn to play.

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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2011, 10:21:28 am »
9.FNminimi( maybe now with 100 amma like the real  :-\  )
No. it'd be closer to the real one, BUT:
#1, (minimi) it would create balance issues.
#2, (minimi) if the balance is given, minimi would practically be another minigun.
#3, (minimi) it's already being discussed (or maybe it happened already) that minimi needs a nerf.
#4, (soldat) mucking around the numbers like that is mindless.
#5, (M4) why a step back?
#6, (M4) another generic auto? no thanks, i like minigun, when teh lulz is needed. besides, (ego +1) I'm one of those rare guys who play (realistic) minigun with skill.
#7, (@DarkCrusade) exactly

tl;dr: No.
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2011, 10:31:07 am »
..the balance is good thereĀ“s no need to add/del anything right now.
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Re: M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2011, 11:34:47 am »

9.FNminimi( maybe now with 100 amma like the real  :-\  )


Stopped giving a shit just about here, are you out of your goddamn mind?
And no, leave the Steyr as it is, it's the sexiest killer of them all.
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