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Pls add "Own suggestion" to your poll.
My vote goes to 1.5 scoring. I really don't see the point in sorting by caps. You know how often someone goes through all the work of breaching the enemy defences, grabbing the flag, running back to base barely alive and then dying from a stray bullet and letting someone else score.Point is: a few lucky kills won't boost a random noob to the top of the scoreboard, but a lucky cap will.Plus, flag icons already stand out a lot and really grab attention on the scoreboard. IMHO this is enough of a reward for those who have less kills but a few cap points.
ctf is about caps, so sorting by caps seams only natural.
Quote from: L[0ne]R on August 19, 2011, 04:33:01 pmMy vote goes to 1.5 scoring. I really don't see the point in sorting by caps. You know how often someone goes through all the work of breaching the enemy defences, grabbing the flag, running back to base barely alive and then dying from a stray bullet and letting someone else score.Point is: a few lucky kills won't boost a random noob to the top of the scoreboard, but a lucky cap will.Plus, flag icons already stand out a lot and really grab attention on the scoreboard. IMHO this is enough of a reward for those who have less kills but a few cap points.The whole point why the rank is sorted by cap/kill/deaths is that we want to reward capping ie a more offensive playing style instead of a more defensive but haveing a high kill count.
1.6.0RC option is the best... People those stand alone and hold flag in base for f**king 5 minutes shall be honored like this... 1.3.0 option gives to much points and players from the same team fight between themselves for flag...
And I never saw friendly players fighting over a flag..
Quote from: L[0ne]R on August 29, 2011, 04:33:18 pmAnd I never saw friendly players fighting over a flag..I mean that players from my team (on some public server) didn't care about protecting EFC... Everybody was trying to take flag as the first one and cap then...Also, +20 points for capturing is too much... Maybe 5 or max. 10...?
Quote from: machina on August 30, 2011, 03:42:35 amQuote from: L[0ne]R on August 29, 2011, 04:33:18 pmAnd I never saw friendly players fighting over a flag..I mean that players from my team (on some public server) didn't care about protecting EFC... Everybody was trying to take flag as the first one and cap then...Also, +20 points for capturing is too much... Maybe 5 or max. 10...?ehm... that kind of attitude will only get worse in 1.6... because now flags are everything...
Maybe the best solution would be to simlpy remove the F1 stats and/or make them visible only on citro-stats or somewhere elseYou would only see the current score in caps
ehm... that kind of attitude will only get worse in 1.6... because now flags are everything...
Quote from: ginn on August 30, 2011, 01:28:36 pmehm... that kind of attitude will only get worse in 1.6... because now flags are everything...That's why i voted for 1.6.0RC option what doesn't give any kills...
Quote from: machina on August 30, 2011, 02:22:12 pmQuote from: ginn on August 30, 2011, 01:28:36 pmehm... that kind of attitude will only get worse in 1.6... because now flags are everything...That's why i voted for 1.6.0RC option what doesn't give any kills...So you're saying that because players won't get kills for caps - they'll care less about flags?
OldScoreBoard enabled in soldat.ini should bring back old sorting method too... And check the poll devs
after playing 1.6 for some time already i have to say the old sorting was better, just made more sense to me. Even though it's sorted by caps i still sort it by kills in my mind.
my opinion:what the f**k people?The scoreboard should remain like this forever because, the ctf gamemode's target is to make a team capture a flag and score it by bringing it back. That's the main point in CTF. The players who do achieve that deserve to get above the others who didn't do it. The 1.5.0 scoreboard is only good for a deathmatch - type of gamemode, not this. don't be such statwhores with the kills and bring some contribution to the gamemode.
Have you even read any of the previous comments?
Quote from: L[0ne]R on October 19, 2011, 04:59:59 pmHave you even read any of the previous comments?no.
Quote from: Mexer on October 20, 2011, 07:17:45 amQuote from: L[0ne]R on October 19, 2011, 04:59:59 pmHave you even read any of the previous comments?no.So you really should not talk about it...
There is allways a big difference between public games and competative games, and I think we should allways make changes based on the competative gameplay.People who doesn't help their team, just to get the cap themselves, do happen, but not in the competative scene.
I prefer sorted by caps. That way it doesn't turn into deathmatch. And it doesn't encourage people to use tactics like camping, blocking, spawkilling.
In the 1.6 versions, Alpha is allways on top of the list and Bravo allways on bottom due to the separation of the teams, I think this only make it harder to understand.I would suggest removing Alpha, Bravo, total kills/deaths and those ugly ass lines alltogether, and let all players be ranked in the same list.
Quote from: homerofgods on October 20, 2011, 02:53:24 pmIn the 1.6 versions, Alpha is allways on top of the list and Bravo allways on bottom due to the separation of the teams, I think this only make it harder to understand.I would suggest removing Alpha, Bravo, total kills/deaths and those ugly ass lines alltogether, and let all players be ranked in the same list.this is what i want, also what poll says
Quote from: Bistoufly on October 20, 2011, 07:19:14 pmI prefer sorted by caps. That way it doesn't turn into deathmatch. And it doesn't encourage people to use tactics like camping, blocking, spawkilling.Demos please, I've never seen a CTF game turn into a TDM (except in R/S). :/ People who want deathmatch usually play deathmatch, not capture the flag.
What about the statwhores , the large number of players that only play for kills. I know lots of players like this that wouldn't cap anything, only kill like in team deathmatch and spawnkill like hell.
When the 1.5 scorboard was on, everyone I knew was fighting and bragging about kills, not caps.
<evhO> I think qb is trying to kill soldat
What about the statwh**es , the large number of players that only play for kills. I know lots of players like this that wouldn't cap anything, only kill like in team deathmatch and spawnkill like hell. And talking about that, tbh the new scoreboard really encouraged me to be more of a team player and contribute as much as I can so we/I can score. When the 1.5 scorboard was on, everyone I knew was fighting and bragging about kills, not caps.
Isn't it better to have a non-teambased scoreboard? To find the 'best' player in a in a clanwar you'd have to first look at the top red player, then the top blue player, then compare them to eachother before the endscreen dissapears. I would rather just look at the top player on the list!
.------------------------------. | Scoreboard | +----+-----------------+-------+ | Alpha | Bravo | +----+-----------------+-------+ | Player1 | Player1 | | Player2 | Player2 | | Player3 | Player3 | +----+-----------------+-------+ '-----+-----------------+-------'
If I ever made a game with a gamemode named capture the cat, I would obviously make a scoreboard that puts the players that scored the cat as much on the top , because that's the f***ng purpose of the gamemode, and the 2nd criteria will be the number of kills . Someone who will want to be on top gonna be that someone who does what he should do in this gamemode, and that's capture the cat. Even if you kill you scoring, killing still isn't the point of the capture the cat mode.
And I doubt any of them would brag about killing just one single person even if he was important. It wasn't the goal itself - it was the path to that goal that was the most challenging.
its been said few times already that enabling this wont bring back old scoreboard sorting.
Quote from: Bonecrusher on October 29, 2011, 02:07:28 pmits been said few times already that enabling this wont bring back old scoreboard sorting.that's not what they're whining about.
Quote from: ginn on October 31, 2011, 10:44:51 amQuote from: Bonecrusher on October 29, 2011, 02:07:28 pmits been said few times already that enabling this wont bring back old scoreboard sorting.that's not what they're whining about.check the topic name and first post before actually replying to a thread
hah and it looks like you dont know what we've been talking about in this threadedit: ok someone from dev team please check this topic so we can get an answer if the scoreboard sorting will be brought back like it was in 1.5 or what
hah and it looks like you dont know what we've been talking about in this threadedit: ok someone from dev team please check this topic so we can get an answer if the scoreboard sorting will be brought back like it was in 1.5 or whatedit2:@down oh u ;]
I hope they don't check this forum so they leave the scoreboard as it is /trollmode off
- I think the most imortant reason why it was changed to sort by caps was that there was too many statswhores
Quote from: homerofgods on May 12, 2012, 05:49:21 am- I think the most imortant reason why it was changed to sort by caps was that there was too many statswhoresHaving spent countless of hours on public CTF servers playing 1.6.2, I can say this hasn't changed at all.