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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2011, 02:55:58 pm »
Snakebite: Remake solution is too complex. Better stick with old one.
Viet: Just stick with old one.

Ruins: Comparing to bugsy islandic old one, the remake is a step up. The remake it is.
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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2011, 04:28:28 pm »
Ruins: Comparing to bugsy islandic old one, the remake is a step up. The remake it is.
...why not just fix polybugs in the original one?


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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2011, 05:00:11 pm »
Ruins: Comparing to bugsy islandic old one, the remake is a step up. The remake it is.
...why not just fix polybugs in the original one?
Why exactly have been all maps remaked...? That's the question...

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2011, 05:02:41 pm »
Ruins: Comparing to bugsy islandic old one, the remake is a step up. The remake it is.
...why not just fix polybugs in the original one?
Why exactly have been all maps remaked...? That's the question...
Some had balance issues, or polybugs, or looked terrible, or all of those problems together.


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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2011, 05:06:55 pm »
Why exactly have been all maps remaked...? That's the question...
Some had balance issues, or polybugs, or looked terrible, or all of those problems together.
Ok, let they fix them and leave maps just a little prettier... But not NEW maps! Run is fucked aswell!

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2011, 05:10:16 pm »
Run is good what are you talking about that map was barely played.

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« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2011, 05:13:56 pm »
Run is good what are you talking about that map was barely played.
It's fucking small! Haven't you played Soldat before 1.6.0RC...? It was quite better...

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2011, 04:25:35 am »
Run is good what are you talking about that map was barely played.
It's f**king small! Haven't you played Soldat before 1.6.0RC...? It was quite better...

well i think the weapon mod is more at fault than the maps... ;s
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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2011, 05:56:18 am »
well i think the weapon mod is more at fault than the maps... ;s
1.5.0 had good weapon balance... Seems some campers have done new balance...
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2011, 07:15:31 am »

1.5.0 had good weapon balance... Seems some campers have done new balance...
are you now really talking about normal (non-realistic) WM?
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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2011, 08:17:25 am »
Why is he talking about the WM in a thread about the new maps?

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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2011, 09:01:58 am »
What about tw maps? :3
It's time to make it as a game mode and not some subgame mode..
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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2011, 09:45:12 am »
Ruins: Comparing to bugsy islandic old one, the remake is a step up. The remake it is.
...why not just fix polybugs in the original one?

Ruins is unpopular. Looks itself doesn't matter if they are new or old. Both old and new Ruins looks are okay to me.

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2011, 10:53:00 am »
Snakebite: Remake solution is too complex. Better stick with old one.
Viet: Just stick with old one.

Ruins: Comparing to bugsy islandic old one, the remake is a step up. The remake it is.

1+ for this one.

I'll just focus on CTF maps.

In my opinion you could just remove Ruins, it's not really fun nor special, there's no "development" with the map. There are a lot of other maps that should get a chance instead of this one.
Overall, Most maps that are made today, are quite playable, the thing is, the gameplay of those maps comes from the players. "In what way do you play defensively", or where do you camp, boost etc. O.fc. mappers can give a clear hint about the gameplay, and they made the ideas around the map, first of all, but it's the players actions the gameplay. That's the way I think it is at this moment, due to the amount of maps some really good maps that's not default but should have been.

There's a lot of better maps then Ruins, Maya2, Lanubya.

I remember when I created Rotten, imo, one of the reason it actually got deafult were because of great players who tried the map (also a lot of other reasons, like good timing to the mapping scene, one of the first maps to be gameplayed tested in irc). It's not as far as good compared to some of the maps before and after, it was made. Those maps that never really got a chance, but perhaps would be really awesome, with some players developing the actions, how it's supposed to be played.

So I suggest a huge project, something like, remove All those unpopular maps and let some good mappers pick out an amount of good CTF maps, that's been made. Then you'd playtest them with some of the best players around, or just clans that know how to teamwork. After that you could create some system of rating, so each player can tell what they thought about the map. Then you could let the Beta team decide which map that should be made default.

ofc this would take some time but if you really want the mapping scene to go around, and get better maps. For the improvment of the game.

It's time for something fresh, get lost with the old boring stuff and take something with nice visuals, good gameplay.

On topic,

I like the added CTF maps. of all of them are great.

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2011, 12:46:47 pm »
Some people also forget, that a map creator, can do the fuck he wants with his OWN map despite the consequences.

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2011, 12:48:19 pm »

1.5.0 had good weapon balance... Seems some campers have done new balance...
are you now really talking about normal (non-realistic) WM?
I'm sorry... I haven't told that I'm mean about realistic... Anyway, it's not right topic...

What about tw maps? :3
It's time to make it as a game mode and not some subgame mode..
TW will never become official... Probably here won't be any new game modes...

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2011, 09:38:50 am »
well, the new maps might turn out fine except for scorpion which is terribly too much luck based

the remakes are just terrible. lanubya, maya2 and ruins are 95% the same map, same with run and viet but not quite as plainly. the new snakebite sucks balls because of the new escape routes right next to the flags. the remake of kampf doesn't change anything basically. also, the new viet sucks balls because of the modified mid route which only makes getting into the tube easier. see no reason for that

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« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2011, 11:16:27 am »
How does the remake of Kampf change nothing? After all, I get no "Krampf" from looking at it anymore. Yeah, that's the German word for "spasm".

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2011, 11:39:37 am »
if i gave a chucklewang about how the game looks i'd be playing another game

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Re: 1.6 New maps, post your opinions.
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2011, 12:03:47 pm »
I just wonder to see old maps in 1.6.0...