Need a little help with avoiding spray-fest in middle section of map

[AdamD]

this is still in its early stages

basically i'm looking for ways to avoid it being a complete "spray-fest" in the middle section. Wolfskin sent me an idea of extending that middle part all the way down.

i'm sort of stuck!

red sections are player only polygons by the way

EDIT: fixed useless topic text

[machina]

I see there in low really camping part of map... Maybe you should add some separator?

[Fryer]

Perhaps something like this would work? (Note the addition of colliders: Blue circles.)

[As de Espada]

the lowest part of the map (the little path below the middle entrance) is useless right now.
you should close it and add some medkits in the future

each of the middle islands on fryer's layout should be reversed horizontaly, so players can reach upper route more easily.

ps.: try to use the same colors as PW use. (yellow for only players collide, red for deadly, etc)

[smiluu]

It really feels like low is the only way to score. If you steal the flag and take the upper route, the thing blocking the way in the middle will encourage anyone to just drop back to the lower route, so how about you make a hole in it so you can get past it and fast. Spray fest isn't always the problem if you just think the layout through well. Covering the spray in the middle isn't going to help because you can fest on spray from low routes as well, let alone the fact the "spray" will be more centered the less there is space to move around. Flag position should be more in the middle so you could actually put the rest of the map in use. Here's what I think is a perfect solution to all of your layout flaws:

[Suowarrior]

I would pick and use Smiluu's layout solution.

One danger that this kind of map has is that flagger can play cat & mouse as long as he wants, that leads into that the defending team, that just lost the flag for attacker, chooses to attack for enemy flag instead of trying to return their own flag.

[AdamD]

thats a nice idea actually, thanks!

[AdamD]

dragged this one out to see if it had any potential



very rough. still working on neatening it up and making it flow okay. needs some work.

[As de Espada]

this is one of the bests. Maybe you could add one island in the center? I am not a fan of ctf_X maps.