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Don't lash out your anger on me but when i see those kind of topic , I'm like How can they bother arguing so much and writing essays when most people don't even bother reading it or just want to express their point..Well those were my 2 cents
Well, you can end this debate with a short mathematical exampleLets say x is a proof that god exists and y is a proof that god doenst exist.set x=1set y=-1and lets say, c is the value of this debate and this c is the summary of x and yc=x+yc=1+(-1)=0the value of this debate is equal 0
Threads like this serve a great purpose. If we can't discuss core beliefs with different minded people then why live in society at all? The internet is an amazing machine that lets us communicate with millions of people and thousands of viewpoints. Why not take every advantage and find every single view on life possible. Neither party has to radically change their way of thinking but all parties can understand each others way of thinking a little more at least. My two cents.
wouldnt it make you wonder if the world was functioning according to the rules of a belief that 500 years ago there were living gnomes that are masters of the universe and they told the people how to live and to praise them but decided never to give a material proof of their existance because its just about the belief. The rules of the gnomes forbid you from eating cookies every second day, having sex naked or eating plants, while you're ought to go to gnome statuettes each morning and pay money to human representatives of the gnome church to praise their name. fuck that, i'd want to eat cookies everyday and social standards and pressure on this matter would annoy me, just as much as it's annoying regarding any dominant religion nowadays
Actually, discussing without any facts is useless. Both sides present their arguments on the level of "belief" and don't deliver any proof of the existence or non-existence of an omnipotent being. Atheists and theists are very stubborn on this topic.
I totally agree with you. But in my opinion the social structures of religions is another topic which is highly debatable and it should be on debate. But the matter of this discussion is the existence or non-existence of an omnipotent being. Its common, that these questions like "social structures" and "hierachies" of a religion drafts out the discussion of the main topic.
Quote from: Mittsu on June 24, 2012, 08:34:40 amwouldnt it make you wonder if the world was functioning according to the rules of a belief that 500 years ago there were living gnomes that are masters of the universe and they told the people how to live and to praise them but decided never to give a material proof of their existance because its just about the belief. The rules of the gnomes forbid you from eating cookies every second day, having sex naked or eating plants, while you're ought to go to gnome statuettes each morning and pay money to human representatives of the gnome church to praise their name. fuck that, i'd want to eat cookies everyday and social standards and pressure on this matter would annoy me, just as much as it's annoying regarding any dominant religion nowadaysI totally agree with you. But in my opinion the social structures of religions is another topic which is highly debatable and it should be on debate. But the matter of this discussion is the existence or non-existence of an omnipotent being. Its common, that these questions like "social structures" and "hierachies" of a religion drafts out the discussion of the main topic.
Quote from: Sh07gaN on June 24, 2012, 08:15:12 amActually, discussing without any facts is useless. Both sides present their arguments on the level of "belief" and don't deliver any proof of the existence or non-existence of an omnipotent being. Atheists and theists are very stubborn on this topic. Werewolves.
Darkmatter, Darkenergy
Quote from: Sh07gaN on June 24, 2012, 09:39:29 amDarkmatter, DarkenergyYou think that dark matter and dark energy are on the same level as werewolves?
Quote from: iDante on June 24, 2012, 11:49:24 pmQuote from: Sh07gaN on June 24, 2012, 09:39:29 amDarkmatter, DarkenergyYou think that dark matter and dark energy are on the same level as werewolves? If you cant see the irony in my post... then I cant help you ^^You guys call yourselves the "Soldat Forum's Intellectual Elite" but for me you guys seem to be bunch of wannabe "smartguys" who fail at trolling . I'm out.
If you cant see the irony in my post... then I cant help you ^^
If you cant see the irony in my post... then I cant help you ^^You guys call yourselves the "Soldat Forum's Intellectual Elite" but for me you guys seem to be bunch of wannabe "smartguys" who fail at trolling . I'm out.