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Narrow minded? Because I bash religion and human mythology?
Sweet Gandhi's tits! I decide to return to the good ol' Soldat forums after what may have been years, and the top thread is Mangled's troll-eism? This can't be a good sign.
Quote from: Kazuki on June 27, 2012, 04:27:11 pmSweet Gandhi's tits! I decide to return to the good ol' Soldat forums after what may have been years, and the top thread is Mangled's troll-eism? This can't be a good sign.Eh Mangled's keeping this place alive. This is the first active thread in a while.
Eh Mangled's keeping this place alive. This is the first active thread in a while.
Isn't non-existence evidence of not existing?edit: the stupidity in this thread makes my head hurt.
Exactly. You bash other people's beliefs based on your own beliefs. A pot and a kettle or whatever.You greatly show disrespect to other people's views which you can't share for being superior to them(which you aren't afraid to show either, after all you're rational!), regardless if their beliefs make them actually happy.
Nothing would be alive without the God!
Quote from: ginn on June 27, 2012, 04:35:58 amIsn't non-existence evidence of not existing?edit: the stupidity in this thread makes my head hurt.Yes. Werewolves.
Besides, you do realize that the universe may be infinite? which would mean warewolfs do exist somewhere.However, comparing a physical being with a spiritual being is pretty bad to begin with.
If everything unknowable is not to be believed, then you'll have no explanation for how you exist.
As explained in Pascal's Wager, even if there is no afterlife, one who dedicates themselves to Gods will(imaginary or not) will be satisfied when they look back on their lives, and if there is an afterlife, well, then there's more pleasure to come.
Quote from: ginn on June 29, 2012, 05:47:12 amBesides, you do realize that the universe may be infinite? which would mean warewolfs do exist somewhere.However, comparing a physical being with a spiritual being is pretty bad to begin with.As clearly stated on multiple occasions, the nature of non-existent things means there is no evidence that can either prove or disprove them. As only existent things can impact reality in a tangible way that provides evidence.The universe may be infinite. But you have made a poorly conceived assumption that infinity means that something of any certainty can occur. Werewolves, by our definition, are humans that can shape-shift into a wolf-like form during a full moon. They are purely a product of human mythology along with god, ghosts, vampires, fairys, angels etc.Note the fact that the majority of mythical creatures are anthropomorphic, including most depictions of God.That's a pretty sure-fire indication that they are merely products of human imagination.
If no evidence can be found, the suspect is assumed to be innocent.
If everything unknowable is not to be believed, then you'll have no explanation for how you exist. A universe without any god is as unknowable as a universe with one. Why should one be favored over the other? Perhaps you're sick of missionaries knocking on your door. Perhaps you're sick of the Salvation Army too.
You're underestimating the value of infinite. We do not know if there are other gravitational rules far away from us, or a ton of other elements.
Why should I respect other people's views?
People are morons.
I should respect the beliefs of people who don't believe in evolution? People who believe the Earth is 6000 years old? People who believe in the afterlife?
How can I respect anybody who ignores reality in favour of fantasy?
It makes them happy?
No, it makes them complacent and stupid and ignorant and intolerant and bigoted and irrational and arrogant.
Respecting their beliefs would just be patronising in my eyes. I am doing the only decent thing by being honest with them.
This is why it's invalid.
Infinite means that everything that is possible (not restricted to our scientific laws) has or will happen.
QuoteInfinite means that everything that is possible (not restricted to our scientific laws) has or will happen.Is also completely wrong.
Your conjecture is still conjecture.I could just as well use your same conjecture to argue that there are moons elsewhere in the universe that are made of cheese.It's not only conjecture, but it's baseless conjecture that only serves to propose a counter-argument to an argument that is grounded in fact.This is why it's invalid.
1 - There's no evidence that they do exist.2 - There's no evidence that they don't exist.Quotelater on you say this:Quote from: Mangled* on June 28, 2012, 09:22:20 pmQuote from: ginn on June 27, 2012, 04:35:58 amIsn't non-existence evidence of not existing?edit: the stupidity in this thread makes my head hurt.Yes. Werewolves.Meaning, you've created evidence to prove that something does not exist. However, now there is evidence, that the said thing doesn't exist. So, it no longer fits into your formula to rule out that something does not exist.Therefore, it's a paradox.
later on you say this:Quote from: Mangled* on June 28, 2012, 09:22:20 pmQuote from: ginn on June 27, 2012, 04:35:58 amIsn't non-existence evidence of not existing?edit: the stupidity in this thread makes my head hurt.Yes. Werewolves.Meaning, you've created evidence to prove that something does not exist. However, now there is evidence, that the said thing doesn't exist. So, it no longer fits into your formula to rule out that something does not exist.Therefore, it's a paradox.